Aprilsnow 四月雪

人间正道是沧桑 On National Day

Thursday, 1. October 2009, 01:32:49

video, poetry, history, painting, China

问苍茫大地，谁主沉浮？

60周年国庆游行 Celebration on National Day

(Post modified to include video clip)

《建国大业》 The Founding of A Republic共和国春秋 1949-1956

Comments

Aprilsnow 四月雪 # 1. October 2009, 02:00

毛泽东的中国是人民的中国, 不是官僚买办的中国!

浩子 # 1. October 2009, 22:18

看过国庆游行了吗？新闻说毛泽东思想方阵是最后一刻增加的：
http://video.sina.com.cn/news/c/v/2009-09-28/095845434.shtml

Aprilsnow 四月雪 # 2. October 2009, 04:57

真的？我还不知道他们竟如此心虚。如果没有毛泽东思想方阵，那什么黑猫白猫方阵，三块裱方阵，河蟹方阵还好意思出来？岂不成了笑话？

Aprilsnow 四月雪 # 2. October 2009, 05:42

共和国

浴血奋战

开天辟地

毛泽东思想，中国人民站起来了

艰苦创业

浩子 # 2. October 2009, 22:20

他们的确很奇怪。我更喜欢阅兵式。^^

sorry, my last link isn't working properly, you can also get the news here: http://news.sina.com.cn/c/2009-09-28/152818744908.shtml

daxonmacs # 4. October 2009, 10:38

Regardless of the political consequences, I regret the loss of typical Chinese music and rhythms.
Tis all sounds blasé, like the more Western Communist countries' music and marching songs.
I never liked those, not here, nor in Russia and neighbouring countries.

Aprilsnow 四月雪 # 5. October 2009, 05:15

谢谢浩子! Here are some video clips of the National Day celebrations:

1) Celebration parade: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUeizYsTuzA

2) Military March: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKVQWGzAA0A

3) Airforce Dispaly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZEzGsTeI1g

4) Evening fireworks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PkY5w2AnBU

daxonmacs # 5. October 2009, 05:23

I'll make sure to watch them later, once I'm back on my computer. I can't see those on my phone, anyway.
Thanks again for providing the links, you're slowly turning of into a videophile.

Aprilsnow 四月雪 # 5. October 2009, 05:36

@daxonmacs

Oh, those clips are for my Chinese freind 浩子，they are in Chinese language, you can only see the pictures.

Now to reply your previous comment:

We didn't lose classical Chinese music and rhythms. Meanwhile, we can't disregard history. This song is about Long March -- a corner stone of our century long fight for our independence, yes, it was influenced by the Soviet but it's part of our history, it's part of Chineseness now, the song itself is part of our history.

It's funny to note the west would lable songs like this "communist" music while we don't label any western music "capitalist" or "imperialist".

What's exactly communist music? Listen to this song, would you call it "communist" also? It's a love song from the Soviet time and has become a popular classical song in China.

daxonmacs # 5. October 2009, 05:40

By lack of a better term or name for it, I used it to refer to the kind of music played by the soviets when they held their parades and marches.
Don't stare yourself blind on the term, nothing dad is meant by it.

Norfrid # 5. October 2009, 06:57

I saw some of this parade on tv, and it was very impressing. I also saw a short interview with some ordinary people who had travelled a long way to watch this, but the police told them to leave the place. It made me sad.

Aprilsnow 四月雪 # 6. October 2009, 05:26

@daxonmacs

Of course, I won't. If there is a difference, in my opinion and understanding, it's due to the media, nothing personal.

Aprilsnow 四月雪 # 6. October 2009, 05:27

@norfrid

I am not really impressed by the parade even though I put those pictures/videos here as a record, I don't like what they did. The newer generation leaders put themselves as important as the first generation leaders who not only fought for China's independence for 28 years but also set up the entire industrial infrastructures for China and laid a solid foundation for economic growth, this was another 28 years. In comparison the newer generation leaders were so pathetic yet they are so arrogant. They are out of touch with the people and with the reality. Since I am the "editor" of my own blog so I cut them out to show I have little respect for them.

Yes, it is sad and it happened in China... Most Chinese knows/understands that no one is allowed to go in to TianAnMen Square in this occasion without a ticket. The population in Beijing is between 15-20 millions and a couple of millions of Chinese from other provinces especially rural areas would go to Beijing each year during the National Day week (yes, whole week holidays), it's impossible to accommodate everyone who wants to go in. I am surprised the journalist didn't understand. Of course, another reason is security, as you can see those top leaders are at Tian An Men. Terrorist threat or protests were not impossible so the security force guard them tightly.

Norfrid # 6. October 2009, 19:14

Even in little Norway with less than five million people security is necessary. Especially to protect our royal family. It's not easy to imagine how it is to live in such a big country like China with more than a thousand million inhabitants.

浩子 # 9. October 2009, 01:21

to aprilsnow: thanks! don't forget the deadline. /// oh, you are right about the sentiment, I wasn't aware until I saw this: 10月1日上午，当从枪林弹雨中走来的共和国老战士，乘坐彩车经过天安门广场时，国庆60周年庆祝大会现场出现了最为感人的一幕——全场数万人同时起立，向他们致敬。 http://news.ifeng.com/mil/special/dayuebing60/news/200910/1006_7989_1377559_1.shtml

Aprilsnow 四月雪 # 12. October 2009, 05:28

Thanks for your understanding, norfrid, here is a picture how TianAnmen square looked like during the holidays in case you are curious.

P.S. I wrote my last comment quickly as time running out so when I read it again it wasn't as polite as I want so I have modified a few words.

Aprilsnow 四月雪 # 12. October 2009, 05:31

谢浩子, 我已给你留言。

daxonmacs # 15. October 2009, 11:57

Originally posted by Aprilsnow:

while we don't label any western music "capitalist" or "imperialist".

Well, you couldn't if you wanted to since it was banned for decades, wasn't it?

Aprilsnow 四月雪 # 4. November 2009, 06:44

...unless you consider Beethoven, Tchaikovsky, Chopin, Shostakovitch, etc. as Chinese or eastern, in fact they were performed in China, according to old music magazines I found from my "uncle", a classical musician, he also told me China had Swan Lake and its own ballet.

daxonmacs # 5. November 2009, 18:55

Mmm, I was referring to pop and rock music.
I've seen Chinese and Asian musicians performing Western Classical music, and they are getting much better at it, recently.
I've made a post about it, too, some time ago.

浩子 # 8. November 2009, 03:11

april, i couldn't find the file you referred to, could you please send me a copy of it if you still have? i need it asap.

Aprilsnow 四月雪 # 9. November 2009, 06:21

You should have received it yesterday, Haozi, I didn't see your reply yet...

浩子 # 9. November 2009, 19:55

i did, april, already used it, no worry.

Aprilsnow 四月雪 # 13. November 2009, 06:55

Originally posted by daxonmacs:

Mmm, I was referring to pop and rock music.

Well, the history of pop and rock music is not that long, China started to have them in 80s. Prior to that, to my knowledge, it wasn't exactly banned, it was criticized as negative and unhealthy, so it was not broadcasted in the media, people were not exposed. It seems that people in the west don't get exposed to certain things that we have in the east either, such as things related to revolutions etc. often got a sliced, sometimes distorted picture... my 2 cents. With internet things may improve. I will go to your blog later to comment on classical music, an interesting topic.

daxonmacs # 13. November 2009, 10:55

Originally posted by Aprilsnow:

With internet things may improve.

Just one more possibility of the internet

That being said, it may work both ways. The internet is just another medium and not everything posted should be taken for true, without further thought or examination.
On the other hand, people from around the globe can communicate with one another, virtually without restrictions, so that's a leap forwards.
Just another cent.

Aprilsnow 四月雪 # 17. November 2009, 06:53

The capability of communicating at individual level with people around the world is fascinating and a breakthrough from mass media monopoly, just like you and I talking about China because we could talk about things can't be found in the media.