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Me gusta mucho "Google Street View" y tú? Un muy buen post,Teresa. Gracias por compartirlo.

Originally posted by FIFINELEB:

"Google Street View"

Hey, gracias por aceptar la invitación, Jean.

No sé que es ese 'GoogleStreetView', ¿te importaría definirlo para todos y colocar un link, si no es demasiado pedir?

Some of the links don't work. I'll check them out later mi pequeño clev..errr, umm.

Edit:

Fixed.
You really must try harder. I appreciate you are only a woman and all that but you must learn to pay attention.

Now post the graphics that go with them.

PRONTO!

Es una nueva aplicación de Google que permite ver recorriendo las calles de las ciudades y hasta de los pueblos. Mejor que Google Maps o Google Earth. No aún existe el servicio Google Street View en Venezuela desfortunadamente. Un gran saludo navideño,Teresa. http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Street_View

Originally posted by FIFINELEB:

Es una nueva aplicación de Google que permite ver recorriendo las calles de las ciudades y hasta de los pueblos. Mejor que Google Maps o Google Earth. No aún existe el servicio Google Street View en Venezuela desfortunadamente. Un gran saludo navideño,Teresa.
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Street_View

It's a new Google application that takes you through the streets of cities and villages.

Better than Google Maps or Google Earth. There is still no Google Street View service in Venezuela unfortunately.

A great Christmas greeting. http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Street_View

Christmas is traditionally a time when families get together and really get on each other's nerves. Traditionally it is a good time for countries to fall on their enemies when they are otherwise occupied.

Let's hope things will be different this time. After all we can't be unlucky every time in over 2000 years can we?

I had an unbfortunate experience walking through the city streets just now. The greengrocery stall in the market square was selling off the last of his produce. I wanted a baf of carrots so I asked for two bags seeing as they were a bargain at a quid a bag.

If you want two bags the lad said, why not take a full sack?

So I said how much?

£2.00

so IO said "OK."

I was now stuck with 25 or so kilos on my back.
Then he saaid:
"Wnat a box of parsnips?"

How do you cook them?

Roast them or make a mash with them.

So I said "how much?"

Quid.

OK

Can I leave them here till I finish shopping?

OK

I came back with a bottle of booze and he said: "Want a box of mange tout?"

What are they?

Them

Oh, baby peas. How..

Quid.

OK. I haven't had these since I had a gard..

Wnat some..

No no thanks. I'll be orange by the time I have eaten all these, I live alone.

Freeze em.

OK.

I wonder what size freezer he thinks a bachelor has? I live on chips and baked beans, cheese omelets and some stir fry veg now and again.

I said I'll have teeth like yours when I get through these.

I won't say what he said but he wished me a Merry Christmas anyway.

So what am I going to do with all them carrots? I'll look like Satan clause when I take my clothes off if I can eat hem all before they spoil.

And with that in mind I leave you to imagine the worst.

Happy knew yer mam.
(But Dopey got there first.)

Thanks,Weatherlawyer. As I can see you have got too much fresh vegetable at home. Do not bother. You can make a thick soup. A lot of stray dogs will thank you. You seem to be a nice fellow indeed. Merry Christmas to you and your British humour. (from the Speakers'Corner-All comments banned. Haha! )


Merry Christmas - Comments and Graphics!

Good grief you look like me!

Wipe that pleasant smile off your face and we could be twins. (It just make you look soppy. What do you want to ingratiate yourself with people for?)

I just wear a plain black cap, no fairy bobbles for me. (I don't want to lose my street cred.)

Look what I got for chrismas:


Yeah! I had too much to drink and ran into an old friend. Now I'm a bear with a sore head. Who ran off with my honey?

Originally posted by Weatherlawyer:

Some of the links don't work. I'll check them out later mi pequeño clev..errr, umm.

Thanks for the info Mishka... However, The first one works really well to me and moreover, that's enough info to start, by the way.

Hey, I want to recall all of that interesting source of data as well. It's the true reason I have posted that above.

Originally posted by FIFINELEB:

Un gran saludo navideño,Teresa.

Gracias. Espero que estés bien, Jean. No me extenderé en el asunto, pero no celebro las fiestas. Cuestión de principios sabes.

El servicio Google Street View se ve interesante. ¿Se evitan las sorpresas con respecto a las vías, verdad?

¿Podrías traducir para todos nosotros toda aquella historia de Michael, por favor! ¿Podrías?

Originally posted by FIFINELEB:

your British humour.

Ooops... I'm staring the Belgian humour too... Look! Both of them are European humour to me. slightly black, huh?

I could be wrong though...

The core of the "Belgian Humour" if we may call it like that is held in "Le Chat" by Philippe Geluck. Have you ever heard of him?


http://www.geluck.com/dessin.html


Well,I don't know if Belgian humour is black. Now and then maybe.

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Tú lo sabes todo,Teresa. Dios ha creado a la mujer perfecta.

Ooops... eso se piensa pero no se dice, Jean. Jejeje, ah, si eso fuera apenas cierto! Siempre tan amable mi querido amigo.

Me alegra tanto que hayas aceptado unirte al grupo. ¿Has leído lo de subir las imágenes satelitales de tu región para compararlas con la actividad de otros lugares? Si te animas puedes subirlas aquí o nos das un link a tu blog.

Gracias.

I can't find an atmospheric pressure chart like the stuff I am used to. This is the best I can do:
http://files.myopera.com/Weatherlawyer/blog/hicbsat_None_anim.gif - http://www.lapatilla.com/site/2011/05/17/asi-esta-el-clima-en-venezuela-imagen-satelital-animada/

I'll try it looking for something in Spanish instead... Hold on a while!

Wow... this site is amaizing... you can see the clouds almost in live -of course

CURRENT TIME
(based on your computer's time):
UTC..
Local

GOES East Imagery - 30 Minutes

xx15Z and xx45Z

Imagery available about 25 minutes later.
8 km resolution


Polar DMSP/AMSU/TRMM Imagery

Every 3 hours
0Z, 3Z, 6Z, 9Z, 12Z, 15Z, 18Z, and 21Z

Imagery available about 45 minutes later.
8 km resolution

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/carb/flash-vis.html

I tried getting that copied. Can't be done with Linux.

I used to save the IR images form... I forget where. (ordinary colour can't be seen in the night.)

But the most effective graphics for following the impression made by unseen "forces" or rather reactions to those forces, is composed of isobars.

The change so obviously when a suitable earthquake or cyclone elsewhere takes up the slack. Think of them as short circuits or power drains.

I bet Noah's wife was the first to report on the changes approaching as her husband was finishing off his boat. As she drew water from the well first thing every morning she would literally see it coming.

Id your neck hurting Teresita?
My shoulder started yesterday, I put that down to the computer and the same with the rhinitis.

Now my neck is sore.

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Traté de conseguir que el copiado. No se puede hacer con Linux.

Yo solía guardar el formulario de imágenes de infrarrojos ... He olvidado dónde. (color normal no se puede ver en la noche.)

Sin embargo, los gráficos más eficaz de seguimiento de la impresión que no se ven "fuerzas" o más bien las reacciones a estas fuerzas, se compone de isobaras.

El cambio tan evidente cuando un terremoto o un ciclón en otro lugar adecuado toma el relevo. Piense en ellos como un cortocircuito o el poder los desagües.

Apuesto a que la mujer de Noé fue el primero en informar sobre los cambios que se avecinan, como su esposo estaba terminando su barco. A medida que sacaba agua del pozo de la cosa primero cada mañana, literalmente, se veía venir.

Identificación del cuello daño Teresita?

Mi hombro se inició ayer, me deja eso a la computadora y lo mismo con la rinitis.

Ahora mi cuello presenta dolor.

Originally posted by Weatherlawyer:

But the most effective graphics for following the impression made by unseen "forces" or rather reactions to those forces, is composed of isobars.

Definetely but until now, it's imposible to me get that sort of Venezuelan stuff.

My neck? ... like a stone. A sensible one though

Feeling better now?
http://files.myopera.com/Weatherlawyer/blog/nice_legs_granny.jpg - I was waiting for the 6.8 but I got hit by a bus instead.

Ah you are in an excellent mood today, Mishka!

Look! We are in the very way of that event. Funny, right?

http://files.myopera.com/tdjmd1/albums/10439392/venezuela.gif -

Venezuela

1812 03 26 - Caracas, Venezuela - M 7.7 Fatalities 26,000
1967 07 29 - Near the Coast of Venezuela - M 6.5
1997 07 09 - Near Coast of Venezuela - M 7.0
2009 09 12 - Offshore Carabobo, Venezuela - M 6.3*

I recall clearly that 1967's (I was 3 years old exactly). I can see that crack in the wall through you could see our backyard. Can you imagine... It was 6.5 only!

* Attached from http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/world/historical_country.php#venezuela

This is a stupendous website about quakes:
USGS Home
Earthquake Hazards Program
Historic World Earthquakes
Sorted by Country/Region & Date
All earthquake dates are UTC, not local time
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/world/historical_country.php#venezuela

Originally posted by Weatherlawyer:

I was waiting for the 6.8 but I got hit by a bus instead.

Magnitude 6.8 - IZU ISLANDS, JAPAN REGION
2012 January 01 05:27:54 UTC

This event has been reviewed by a seismologist.
Magnitude
6.8
Date-Time
Sunday, January 01, 2012 at 05:27:54 UTC
Sunday, January 01, 2012 at 02:27:54 PM at epicenter
Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones
Location
31.416°N, 138.155°E
Depth
348.5 km (216.6 miles)
Region
IZU ISLANDS, JAPAN REGION
Distances
242 km (150 miles) SW of Hachijo-jima, Izu Islands, Japan
365 km (226 miles) S of Hamamatsu, Honshu, Japan
393 km (244 miles) S of Shizuoka, Honshu, Japan
495 km (307 miles) SSW of TOKYO, Japan
Location Uncertainty
horizontal +/- 14.3 km (8.9 miles); depth +/- 9.7 km (6.0 miles)
Parameters
NST=618, Nph=618, Dmin=244.9 km, Rmss=0.67 sec, Gp= 25°,
M-type=centroid moment magnitude (Mw), Version=9
Source
Magnitude: NOAA West Coast and Alaska Tsunami Warning Center, Palmer, Alaska, USA
Location: USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)
Event ID
usc0007fbh

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0007fbh.php

Singularities
Does the weather have a memory?

by Philip Eden


There has always been an impression that certain types of weather recur at certain times of the year � indeed, the idea is enshrined in ancient country lore which contains myriad sayings and proverbs which tie climatic characteristics to the calendar.

But most thinking people would regard as preposterous the notion that the atmosphere can remember how it behaved on a particular date in previous years so that it can do the same this year. Put as starkly as that, the idea is certainly irrational and unscientific. But a gargantuan heap of statistical work over the last century and half has identified some significant tendencies to unusual weather at particular times of the year. These seasonal tendencies are called �singularities� � a word coined by the German climatologist, A.Schmauss, in 1938.

http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/reports/philip-eden/Singularities.htm

[quote from a while back]Time for a biblical interlude. What thinkest thou?

14 SEPT 14:29 = half way from fine to thunder.
21 SEPT 15:54 = wet.
28 SEPT 13:09 = wet.
6 OCT 10:12 = wet.
14 OCT 02:48 = thundery.
20 OCT 21:59 = wet.
28 OCT 03:07 = thundery.
5 NOV 05:53 = mist and low cloud.
12 NOV 14:27 = similar to 14th Sept.
19 NOV 05:50 = similar to 5th Nov.
26 NOV 20:07 = wet.
5 DEC 00:53 = wet.
12 DEC 01:29 = similar to 16th Aug.
18 DEC 16:40 = [This space was intentionally left blanc because I had no idea what it would do]
26 DEC 15:06 = thundery.[/quote] http://groups.google.com/group/sci.geo.earthquakes/browse_frm/thread/a90b0622188e45da/b815982b9c757604?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=Singularity+sci.geo.earthquakes+mcNeil#b815982b9c757604

Would I have caught it with hindsight?

The real question is of all those people who stood up to knock me down: What would have happened if any of them had not been such unconscionable swine?

Originally posted by Weatherlawyer:

Time for a biblical interlude. What thinkest thou?

It's looks like a melody, a tonal pattern... A succession of notes forming a distinctive sequence.

Originally posted by tdjmd1:

It looks like a melody, a tonal pattern... A succession of notes forming a distinctive sequence.

Unfortunately the quakes above have no such rhythm: 6 06:04 6 18:39 1 18:55 4 10:00 5 17:00 4 10:01 6 06:32 4 15:53 5 11:42 5 23:08 2 14:39 4 16:03 6 00:21 6 12:14 2 02:16 Take 6 hours from the time of phase and you get what the moon might have been doing. (I add 6 to any zeros. It makes it look better.)

RATS!!

6 06:04 6 18:39 1 18:55


4 10:00 5 17:00 4 10:01


6 06:32 4 15:53 5 11:42


5 23:08 2 14:39 4 16:03


6 00:21 6 12:14 2 02:16

I give in

Hey. Use small words wherever possible.

(And write slowly.)

Why do you think people is understanding you? Perhaps that's happening to you. You have a way and they aren't willing to abandon their points of view. Sometimes I think they don't undestanding you because they don't want to do it.

You are a simple observer. No diploma, no training, no
qualifications. Just a great deal of nerve.

You have no credentials but ocurrents!

Pig- Pork or Swine - All the same from different origins though . Which one gives the best weather forecast? (Animals can predict things to occur sometimes,eh?)

A great day to both of you,Teresa and Weather.

Originally posted by FIFINELEB:

A great day to both of you,Teresa and Weather.

The sun is shining brightly here. A great day indeed.

As Venezuela is at the other end of the North Atlantic' spectreum I wonder what it is like there.

Usually it is a great day I think. I know that when it rains over here it pours in Florida, though. So I think that Venezuelan climate can be linked to Florida's.

But how?
My guess is that they are polar opposites. But I will have to think about why.

In the hurricane season, Florida gets a huge thunderstorm every day. Part of Venezuela does the same thing I think.

Buen día, gents!

Originally posted by Weatherlawyer:

The sun is shining brightly here. A great day indeed.

Yep. No one cloud in the sky here. A really shiny and fresh morning. Well, we have to prove yet if Venezuelan climate is linked to Florida's though..

Let's try to find out it!

...linked to? Nop. Orlando looks quite different from Valencia. http://www.weather.com/weather/wxdetail/USFL0372?dayNum=0

Valencia, Ven http://www.weathercity.com/ve/ca/valencia/

Lol! Both of Weather report are coincident but my eye does see a cloud nowhere; at least, not yet. I do feel like Elijah's attendant... "There is nothing at all"

Looking at the gravity field and the co-tidal lines of the Carib., you'd think it was all the same place.

Somewhere you can get the records for a place in Venezuela, the USA has stuff for everywhere online everywhere. A super-abundance. (The UK has as much data and goes back further but it is locked into the Latin Speaking syndrome. It's too good for the likes of us.)

Anyway if your sister is posting regularly from home she will already know the traits of the weather there. In a few weeks she will have enough to compare with anywhere with a similar climate.

It's the same with ports and tides.

They compare similar ports and can work out the co-tidal lines between them. All that varies is the height of the water.

You can't really compare a maritime country with a tropical one. At least, I doubt that you can. But it does work for odd weather patterns (singularities.)

And they are the ones that breed large earthquakes.

Unfortunately we don't have the weather records for Venezuela to draw on. (I don't think we have them for Chile either
...but they have had a lot more warfare there, so they may have released weather data.

Not that it matters, I know what occlusions run from the Atlantic down that way. And I have a place on the same chart that is linked to them.

All we need now is secret ingredient "X".

Eeeh! Are you playing with images? Don't making descriptions either... The Solar System evidently, but what do mean the changes of colour in those orbital lines?

It's no a good idea posting pictures without explanation joined...

Originally posted by tdjmd:

It's not a good idea posting pictures without an explanation attached...

OTOH, if I did everything for you where would you get the encouragement to think for yourself.

(That's all I am doing.)

I don't know all the answers, all I have found so far is the pieces that don't fit, some sky and most of the bits with edges.

I can fill in the rest of the picture (deo volenti) and I would find it interesting, do you just want to come along for the ride or would you like to get stuck in?

Okay. But at least please put a link of the source of that...

Oooops... I'm writting like you yet, copying your manners, huh?

Okay, okay. To come along is funnier! 'Ta bien..

What do you see in the picture?

Don't tell me: "Planets".

Ah well... I can see a certain sort of behavior of those bodies -their orbits show a distinguishable change, but I have the slightest idea what does mean.

Originally posted by tdjmd1:

I have the slightest idea what does mean.

Ah, now I understand.

You "don't have the slightest idea what it means."

Neither do I.

The blue semicircles mean the parts of the orbits above the Eccliptic and the green semicircles mean...

The eccliptic is the disc marked out by the orbit of the earth. It cuts the sun in half and by definition runs through the middle of the earth too so it cuts us in half too.

But you don't line in the southern eccliptic you live in the southern hemisphere.

It cuts the earth in half in an "S" shape we call the tropics and the line it draws out to the stars is called the Zodiac.

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If the sun did not dominate the day the way it does, we might see the other stars 24/7.

In that case there would be no conjunction and opposition. We'd see the stars all the time except when they were"occluded" by the sun, (hidden behind it.)

Or they would be hidden behind the earth.

Hidden in the day or night because they had "set" or had not yet "risen".

Or hidden because they are only visible in winter or summer (and or spring and autumn.)

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How many of those astronomical termsnare you familiar with.

I would suppose if you were English you would know 4 of them and understand 2 (maybe 3 but I doubt that.)

You have heard of a zodiac but apart from the names of a few constellations were probably ignorant of the proper meaning of it?

Rise and set you use daily in Britain. And I bet the Venezuelans use the Spanish equivalent regularly in ordinary conversation too.

What about Occluded?

Since ytouy have been on here maybe?

Occluded fronts.

Hidden. It comes from the word Occult, from which we get the term Cult. Or Sect. Section. The hidden section of a planets orbit is when it is near or behind the sun.

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The sun literally lights up the atmosphere and makes stars invisible long after it hjas set. Only the brightest stars are visible in the Twilight when the air is still lit by the sun above the horizon.

And it turns out to be physically true too. The bombardment of the very thin atmosphere 40 and more miles above the earth turns molecules into ions that will flare up on contact with atoms.

Oxygen molecules are stripped of their electrons to become a nascent ion so powerfull it will burn oxygen.

That is how ozone is made. And as soon as ozone collides with another particle it burns that to form whatever there is. Usually it is more oxygen and so it doesn't end up killing us all.

It burns up all the polycarbonflurochlorides and even water when it breaks through the troposphere and the stratosphere and it breaks down the sulphites and the silica from explosive volcanoes like Pinatubo and Mt St Helens that happen only very occasionally.

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And best of all the page accepts directly the dates given in the format the NEIC use to time and date earthquakes.

Isn't that a perfect delight?

Quote = tdjmd1] I have minimum idea quid velis. [/ Quote]
Ah, nunc intelligo.

Vos ' non [/ b] [/ i] minimum idea habet quid sibi velit. "

Neque I.

De hyacintho semicirculi partes orbium supra medium Eccliptic semicirculi et virens ... mean

The disc eccliptic metatus est per orbem terrarum. Sol medium secat in ea et per diffinitionem percurrit ita quoque incidit in medio terrae et dimidiam.

Vos autem non estis in meridiana linea in meridianis eccliptic hemisphaerio.

Et incidit in terra dimidiam in "S" tropicos dicitur forma & recta trahit ad sidera zodiaci vocatur.

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Per diem sol non dominatur, si sic, ut videamus cetera sidera XXIV / VII.

In casu foret aliqua conjunctio et oppositio. Lorem ipsum dolor sit omni tempore, nisi cum videritis stellas "occluded" a sole, (qui staret occulte post ipsum.)

Vel ne occulte post terram.

Occultus in eo die ac nocte "set" vel nondum "surrexit".

Vel quia sunt abdita in hiberna et aestiva solum visibilia (vel vere et autumno.)

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Quam multi, qui familiares tui termsnare astronomica.

Ego puto, si scire vultis IV English his intelligimus II (III Vivamus sed dubitans.)

Audistis in zodiaco sunt sidera, tristique sed praeter pauca nomina propria nescit hoc?

Surgite et cotidie uteris in Britanniam. Bet et in usum Hispanorum Venezuelans valet etiam regulariter in communi locutione.

Occluded Quid?

Quoniam hic est ytouy maybe?

Occluded fronts.

Occultus. Is est a verbo Occult unde habetur Morsus Mihi nomen. Vel Sect. Aenean turpis. Quod planetae orbitam est abscondita cum propinquum partem a tergo solem.

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Sol et aer sermonis lumina reddit invisibilem multo post hjas sidera constituta. Tantum clarissimis stellae apparent in Twilight cum aer illuminatur a sole supra horizontem est.

Et evenit quidem, ut corpora ipsa. XL milia aeris et huius tenuissimum bombardment et supra terram qui vertit molecules nunc nulla in BULLO in contactu atomorum.

Exuti sunt molecules dolor electrons fieri nascentium ion tantum exuret dolor.

Quod quomodo fiat ozone. Et ut ardeat ozone collides particula altera quidquid est quod ad formam. Lorem ipsum dolor sit terminus sursum caedes et non ex nobis.

Ardet omni polycarbonflurochlorides etiam cum aqua et solvit per troposphere stratosphere et corruit ad sulphites explosive volcanoes sicut et de silica et Pinatubo Mt St Helens solum aliquando fiunt.

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Et optime paginam [/ url], probat quod format tradantur in tempora NEIC [/ url] vsui tempore date terræmotus. Quod delectatio non perficiat?