Wednesday, January 11, 2012 1:08:45 PM
The studies about the movement of tectonic plates and climatic changes are essential and very important.
It is not just "Earth", but a living world in continuous movement and changes. The only planet known to us with climate and environmental conditions favorable to the organic life.
By studying the physical and climatic events, we can learn to monitor our living world, we can learn how the physical and climatics events are acting in our world, in the biology of the surface of our planet.
The Planet Earth takes millions of years to change much in relation to its old form.
Imagine a small insect that lives in a tree. Its life cycle is two weeks. During its lifetime, the insect does not witnessed any significant change in its treeland like the growth of the tree. It witnessed only some leafs falling. The same occurs between man and Earth. Big changes as the emerging of mountains and the dance of the Earth will never be perceived by a man in his lifetime.
That's why the collecting of data and studies are so important because through them we can better understand how the Earth works by the saved informations during the past of centuries.
Brazil and earthquakes
Brazil is a bit far from the edges of the South American plates

in a region where the plate has a thickness of about 200km and therefore high intensity earthquakes are very rare. That does not mean that Brazil is free from earthquakes because there are tectonic faults which makes Brazil vulnerable to earthquakes, but with low intensity compared to some neighboring Latin American countries around the world who suffer from the geological movement.
In the twentieth century there were more than a hundred earthquakes in Brazil.
Take a look:

One thing that really puzzles me is that the number of earthquakes in the world is ever increasing and growing more furious. The same is happening with nature in recent years. The number of floods and natural disasters is growing. Only last year have been about 17 earthquakes in Brazil. Most were of low magnitude, as almost always, but the number of earthquakes is increasing
Bellow you can see the largest earthquakes here in Brazil since the twentieth century:














zrafatdjmd1 # Saturday, January 14, 2012 8:52:44 PM
Te comento on topic al volver.
CláudioClaudioAlb # Saturday, January 14, 2012 10:24:27 PM
Muitíssimo obrigado.
zrafatdjmd1 # Monday, January 16, 2012 7:42:20 PM
I love your illustration about the cricket, jejeje, we could think of crickets, couldn't we?
Anyways, your words remind me a quote from an ancient book... "He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers." And this was written down 700 years before the Christ birth.
CláudioClaudioAlb # Monday, January 16, 2012 8:11:35 PM
Cricket? Yes, we could think of cricket. Hehehe
Thank you so much for your compliments, Venezuelan friend
zrafatdjmd1 # Monday, January 16, 2012 8:31:14 PM
Gracias por la contribución, nuestro joven corresponsal en Brasil.
CláudioClaudioAlb # Monday, January 16, 2012 8:41:05 PM
Weatherlawyer # Tuesday, January 17, 2012 8:40:18 PM
If you look at world weather maps you will see Brasil is prominent on the Wisconsin satellite product.
Also Venezuela, both:
http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/comp/latest_cmoll.gif
MPEG format
AniS Java format
Look how large air masses move through Brazil.
Then see where they go on this image:
http://www.bom.gov.au/australia/charts/viewer/index.shtml?type=mslp-precip&tz=AEDT&area=SH&model=G
After carefully observing where the low pressure ends up (at the moment it splits into 3 separate lows at around 100 degrees East) you will be able to see where the next earthquakes are going to be.
If they end up on Antarctica in the same place, they may produce the quakes in the same place?
Let us know what you find out.
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Holla.
Si nos fijamos en los mapas del tiempo el mundo podrá ver Brasil ocupa un lugar destacado en el producto por satélite Wisconsin.
También Venezuela, que:
http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/comp/latest_cmoll.gif
formato MPEG
AniS formato Java
Mira cómo las grandes masas de aire se mueven a través de Brasil.
Luego ver donde van en esta imagen:
http://www.bom.gov.au/australia/charts/viewer/index.shtml?type=mslp-precip&tz=AEDT&area=SH&model=G
Después de una cuidadosa observación de que la baja presión termina (en el momento en que se divide en tres bajas por separado en torno a 100 grados Este) que será capaz de ver donde los terremotos próximos van a ser.
Si terminan en la Antártida en el mismo lugar, pueden producir los sismos en el mismo lugar?
Háganos saber lo que descubres.
Weatherlawyer # Tuesday, January 17, 2012 8:43:30 PM
Originally posted by Weatherlawyer:
http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/comp/cmoll/cmoll.mp4
I forgot you can't just copy text with the links in.
CláudioClaudioAlb # Wednesday, January 18, 2012 2:36:59 PM
Weatherlawyer # Wednesday, January 18, 2012 5:15:03 PM
I tend to go too far all at once. But you will enjoy it all when you start learning.
What you have to watch out for is that it might take over your life.
CláudioClaudioAlb # Thursday, January 19, 2012 11:55:00 AM
I understand you, Weatherlawyer. I know that will be good but I do not know what I have to do
Weatherlawyer # Thursday, January 19, 2012 12:49:17 PM
First you must learn all you can.
Then you must decide what interests you.
Then you must decide if you would like to know more.
Then you must find out if it is worth pursuing for a living or if it will always remain a hobby.
Then you may do what you wish.
Lastly, when you have settled in (maybe when you are in your twenties) you can start thinking for yourself:
Why this and not that?
Then you will begin to see the inner workings of a massive wheel and all its tiny parts.
CláudioClaudioAlb # Thursday, January 19, 2012 3:00:25 PM
But what I meant is that I don't know what I have to do to know where a new earthquake will happen. I don't have enough data about this, to know this
Weatherlawyer # Thursday, January 19, 2012 7:14:43 PM
CláudioClaudioAlb # Thursday, January 19, 2012 7:28:33 PM
Weatherlawyer # Thursday, January 19, 2012 7:47:35 PM
I mean no harm. It is the motto of only one science:
First do no harm.
Think what monsters we have become because physics has no such qualms.
Nor chemistry.
I am not going to tell you how to use Brazilian tools because I don't know what they are.
I will instead tell you only what I now. The Atlantic Sea Level Air Pressure Charts and what it means.
Go now and find today's. For it shows a large cyclone in the gap between Europe and Greenland.
The same cyclone there at any time, means a tropical storm is also running.
I forecast it one day this spell. Then the next I said no there will be no spell because of the earthquake.
Now go and see what type of and earthquake it turned out to be. Tell me if you have ever seen the like of "it".
I have been up all night and have only had a couple of hour's sleep so I am going to get some rest for a few hours now. I am about to conk-out.
I will post more on the Lunartist chart site.
Have fun.
Weatherlawyer # Thursday, January 19, 2012 9:42:53 PM
Let me see if I can find you a picture of the Northern Hemisphere that shows its Isobars with more resolution.
Weatherlawyer # Thursday, January 19, 2012 9:55:07 PM
Originally posted by Weatherlawyer:
Here it is the second chart down:
http://wxmaps.org/pix/hemi.00hr.html
The opposite side of the earth is here:
http://wxmaps.org/pix/shemi.00hr.html
Find the dark blue mass nearest the North Pole. That is the one that is the same as the MetOffice map shows. It lies between Greenland and Norway.
You can make out Spain and Portugal in the chart. Draw a line up from Portugal and it goes through that blue blob on to the Pole itself.
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When the tropical depressions: Eight and Ethyl disperse, they will go down to the South Pole. You can watch them do it on the charts from the same site.
I showed them to you in my earlier posts to this thread. But you can easily find them again on here:
http://wxmaps.org/pix.html
Weatherlawyer # Thursday, January 19, 2012 9:59:25 PM
When that happens in summer hurricanes travel north instead of west and they go straight into the Arctic via the same route this storm is going to take.
Except this is winter and when this storm splits into two or three it will go east.
Pity.
But you still have some southern storms to watch.
Weatherlawyer # Thursday, January 19, 2012 10:06:02 PM
Instead of going to the Pole they will go to rest in the large bays in the Arctic. In summer when temperatures permit they split into three in the Norwegian sea and one goes to the mouth of the Lena river, One goes to the mouth of the Mackenzie and one goes I forget ewhere. Maybe Norway?
Maybe the Baltic takes it's share early?
I do not know.
After that for reasons I don't yet understand, I think we will get three or so many pairs or triplets of earthquakes.
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OR.
It may just be a coincidence that the tectonic plates were going to burp after mating anyway and it just suited them to do so when those Lows embedded themselves when and where they did.
Do you have computers in school?
CláudioClaudioAlb # Thursday, January 19, 2012 11:03:06 PM
Thank you so much
Weatherlawyer # Thursday, January 19, 2012 11:13:18 PM
Originally posted by ClaudioAlb:
No matter.
You can learn enough with your phone now to astonish you classmates when you return and are able to forecast earthquakes and tropical storms.
Maybe your geography teacher will let you do a project on it for the school paper or whatever Brazilian schools have for a newsletter these days.
Weatherlawyer # Thursday, January 19, 2012 11:16:51 PM
On a larger screen you can see more clearly what is happening and you can save images and highlight them, even use a photo-shop tool to make things clearer.
CláudioClaudioAlb # Friday, January 20, 2012 4:24:42 PM
Weatherlawyer # Friday, January 20, 2012 11:13:39 PM
CláudioClaudioAlb # Sunday, January 22, 2012 12:54:03 PM
catseopcat # Friday, February 3, 2012 4:47:03 PM
@ Lastly, when you have settled in (maybe when you are in your twenties) you can start thinking for yourself , Why this and not that?
I don't know if Weatherlawyer talking about life or about this page
Why 20 years? I think you can begin to think for yourself even before ! 14 years is a good year
Weatherlawyer # Friday, February 3, 2012 5:11:20 PM
You are in mortal danger from brainwashing at school. Then you have to conform to work practices, then you begin to find your feet.
But I have a 100% totally different point of view to contemporary earth sciencew.
My stuff works. I don't get paid to think conventional thoughts. I just do this for fun, interest and overwhelming desire to find out what is going on.
Believe me, I did try to make sense of alternative ideas.
catseopcat # Friday, February 3, 2012 5:34:10 PM
for the work is other thing ...
Weatherlawyer # Saturday, February 4, 2012 12:04:55 AM
Stuff they may not have thought about will be presented as fact. And when it comes to geology, there are so very few facts.
All earthquakes have to take place below or very near 5 miles or the pressure of water near that depth in order for the water to be able to dissolve rock. To do that it has to be a liquid steam. And at a temperature pressure phase change that make the solute unstable/stable.
Otherwise earthquake would make holes in the surface of the earht.
They never do.
All I ask is: Why?
All that stuff above is impossible and improbable yet it is considered cutting edge science. You might want to ask why. And why we can forecast weather but not quakes.
Take a look at the pressure systems in Antarctica when there is a quake. They alway occur when a Deep Low hits the continent. And this last one actually fed through Brazil.
When I am organised I will post a link and also some files that I saved of a few weather model runs showing it occurring. Meanwhile, you might find some reference to the situation on this thread:
Edit to fix link:
http://my.opera.com/Are-You-a-Lunarist-like-Myself/albums/showpic.dml?album=10717872&picture=141335582#comment81412732
It got a bit side-tracked by the end of it but it is about the way the patterns run down from the Equator to the South Pole.
When it gets there there is always a quake. When it gets to a certain bay like the Ross Ice Shelf it curves around on itself because of the shape of the land and makes a big increase in the pressure "gradient".
The Low then has to rise 3 miles over the surface of the ice and something in that process sends a shockwave underground to the epicentre.
It can't be much but it is evidently enough.
Unless someone finds out differently.
Fancy having a go?
catseopcat # Saturday, February 4, 2012 8:52:10 AM
already in French ....but it is complicated even more in English ,because it's complexe than you had said
Weatherlawyer # Saturday, February 4, 2012 8:49:22 PM
Here's the link again:
http://my.opera.com/Are-You-a-Lunarist-like-Myself/albums/showpic.dml?album=10717872&picture=141335582#comment81412732
catseopcat # Saturday, February 4, 2012 9:07:43 PM
Weatherlawyer # Saturday, February 4, 2012 9:32:28 PM
I am not organised at all and I lost a load of files <<< that has messed with my head.
I have just found I can't use the information that is stuck on a half dead drive.
Let me get back to you.
catseopcat # Saturday, February 4, 2012 9:42:14 PM
but I see your are a enthusiast ,passionate
zrafatdjmd1 # Saturday, February 4, 2012 9:44:32 PM
Just a funny learning process.
Weatherlawyer # Sunday, February 5, 2012 8:03:13 AM
Originally posted by opcat:
Some people say I am a kook.
But it is them who are all wrong, all of them. I just have foam coming out of my mouth because of allergies.
Weatherlawyer # Sunday, February 5, 2012 8:12:47 AM
I lost another hard drive and all the charts I was collecting. I don't suppose you were downloading the Antarctic charts before the recent quake?
I have some from 2nd Feb on. Everything has gone to pot here and I am sure the situation is still bad as the weather is unusual here and I am off my rocker again.
Back pain, gout, stiffness and unable to do anything properly.
And using a half dead computer.
So:
Situation Normal here Am Fed Up.
Make my day, tell me my amanuensis has pulled me out of the frying pan.
catseopcat # Sunday, February 5, 2012 8:27:23 AM
inevitably you know all the sites about charts
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/region/N_America_eqs.php
here more détails
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0007uzf.php#maps
CláudioClaudioAlb # Tuesday, March 6, 2012 11:38:26 PM
Hey Catse, merci beacoup pour ta visite ici et merci aussi pour des liens que tu donner à moi
Hola, Teresa ! Gracias también, amiga de Venezuela
Obrigado vocês três adultos
zrafatdjmd1 # Tuesday, March 6, 2012 11:59:47 PM
¿Qué has estado haciendo todos estos días de ausencia, Claudio?
CláudioClaudioAlb # Wednesday, March 7, 2012 12:19:10 AM
Perdão, Teresa. O motivo da minha ausência durante todos estes dias é que ocorreu um problema com o meu celular, onde eu usava a internet e então ele quebrou e estou sem usar a internet como usava antes... Sinto muita falta por não poder conversar com vocês e perguntar como vão vocês... Não posso comprar outro celular tão breve... Mas isso não é problema para mim, pois de qualquer forma se eu tivesse internet, eu não teria muito tempo para usá-la, pois tenho muita coisa para estudar na escola. Sinto falta mesmo é de vocês, meus amigos daqui...
Desculpe, meu tempo está acabando. Eu Tenho que log off...
Boa noite, Teresa. Espero que todos vocês estejam bem. Boa noite !
Até mais
zrafatdjmd1 # Wednesday, March 7, 2012 12:27:32 AM
Da gusto saber que estás bien y ocupado en tus estudios.
Cuídate de mantenerte así. Me dió un gusto leerte, mi amiguito de Brasil
Estamos en contacto...
CláudioClaudioAlb # Wednesday, March 7, 2012 12:42:08 AM
Me gusta cuando me llamas de amiguito
Ah, estou lendo "Mago de Oz" em espanhol. Sei que é um livro infantil, mas acho muito bonita a maneira dos textos em espanhol. O espanhol usa termos belos que infelizmente deixaram de existir em português... Gosto muito de ler em espanhol! O espanhol tem uma beleza que deixou de existir no português brasileiro...
Sí. Nuevamente en contacto y eres muy gentil
Buenas noches amiga de Venezuela