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The studies about the movement of tectonic plates and climatic changes are essential and very important.
It is not just "Earth", but a living world in continuous movement and changes. The only planet known to us with climate and environmental conditions favorable to the organic life.
By studying the physical and climatic events, we can learn to monitor our living world, we can learn how the physical and climatics events are acting in our world, in the biology of the surface of our planet.
The Planet Earth takes millions of years to change much in relation to its old form.
Imagine a small insect that lives in a tree. Its life cycle is two weeks. During its lifetime, the insect does not witnessed any significant change in its treeland like the growth of the tree. It witnessed only some leafs falling. The same occurs between man and Earth. Big changes as the emerging of mountains and the dance of the Earth will never be perceived by a man in his lifetime.
That's why the collecting of data and studies are so important because through them we can better understand how the Earth works by the saved informations during the past of centuries.


Brazil and earthquakes


Brazil is a bit far from the edges of the South American plates

in a region where the plate has a thickness of about 200km and therefore high intensity earthquakes are very rare. That does not mean that Brazil is free from earthquakes because there are tectonic faults which makes Brazil vulnerable to earthquakes, but with low intensity compared to some neighboring Latin American countries around the world who suffer from the geological movement.
In the twentieth century there were more than a hundred earthquakes in Brazil.


Take a look:


One thing that really puzzles me is that the number of earthquakes in the world is ever increasing and growing more furious. The same is happening with nature in recent years. The number of floods and natural disasters is growing. Only last year have been about 17 earthquakes in Brazil. Most were of low magnitude, as almost always, but the number of earthquakes is increasing
Bellow you can see the largest earthquakes here in Brazil since the twentieth century:

September 11, 2011.Halo Solar

Comments

zrafatdjmd1 Saturday, January 14, 2012 8:52:44 PM

Hey Claudio. Te felicito. Esto luce espectacular. Lo grabaré en mi pendrive para disfrutarlo al llegar a casa.

Te comento on topic al volver.

CláudioClaudioAlb Saturday, January 14, 2012 10:24:27 PM

Bueno! Muchas gracias, Teresa. Estoy muy contento por tuyas palabras! Muito obrigado yes !

Muitíssimo obrigado.

zrafatdjmd1 Monday, January 16, 2012 7:42:20 PM

Excellent info, my friend. Well done.

I love your illustration about the cricket, jejeje, we could think of crickets, couldn't we?

Anyways, your words remind me a quote from an ancient book... "He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers." And this was written down 700 years before the Christ birth. happy

CláudioClaudioAlb Monday, January 16, 2012 8:11:35 PM

That's good that what I've wrote reminds you this so ancient quote! down 700 before Christ!

Cricket? Yes, we could think of cricket. Hehehe

Thank you so much for your compliments, Venezuelan friend up Gracias

zrafatdjmd1 Monday, January 16, 2012 8:31:14 PM

Ah... estamos orgullosos de ti! Allá en The Lunarist's sidebar tienes un link a este post.

Gracias por la contribución, nuestro joven corresponsal en Brasil. yes

CláudioClaudioAlb Monday, January 16, 2012 8:41:05 PM

Bueno yes

Weatherlawyer Tuesday, January 17, 2012 8:40:18 PM

Holla.

If you look at world weather maps you will see Brasil is prominent on the Wisconsin satellite product.

Also Venezuela, both:
http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/comp/latest_cmoll.gif

MPEG format
AniS Java format

Look how large air masses move through Brazil.
Then see where they go on this image:
http://www.bom.gov.au/australia/charts/viewer/index.shtml?type=mslp-precip&tz=AEDT&area=SH&model=G

After carefully observing where the low pressure ends up (at the moment it splits into 3 separate lows at around 100 degrees East) you will be able to see where the next earthquakes are going to be.

If they end up on Antarctica in the same place, they may produce the quakes in the same place?
Let us know what you find out.

***

Holla.

Si nos fijamos en los mapas del tiempo el mundo podrá ver Brasil ocupa un lugar destacado en el producto por satélite Wisconsin.

También Venezuela, que:
http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/comp/latest_cmoll.gif

formato MPEG
AniS formato Java

Mira cómo las grandes masas de aire se mueven a través de Brasil.
Luego ver donde van en esta imagen:
http://www.bom.gov.au/australia/charts/viewer/index.shtml?type=mslp-precip&tz=AEDT&area=SH&model=G

Después de una cuidadosa observación de que la baja presión termina (en el momento en que se divide en tres bajas por separado en torno a 100 grados Este) que será capaz de ver donde los terremotos próximos van a ser.

Si terminan en la Antártida en el mismo lugar, pueden producir los sismos en el mismo lugar?
Háganos saber lo que descubres.

Weatherlawyer Tuesday, January 17, 2012 8:43:30 PM

Originally posted by Weatherlawyer:

MPEG format


http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/comp/cmoll/cmoll.mp4

I forgot you can't just copy text with the links in.

CláudioClaudioAlb Wednesday, January 18, 2012 2:36:59 PM

Intersting. Okay, thank you, Weatherlawyer

Weatherlawyer Wednesday, January 18, 2012 5:15:03 PM

Too much home-work?

I tend to go too far all at once. But you will enjoy it all when you start learning.

What you have to watch out for is that it might take over your life.

CláudioClaudioAlb Thursday, January 19, 2012 11:55:00 AM

Much home-work? No.

I understand you, Weatherlawyer. I know that will be good but I do not know what I have to do

Weatherlawyer Thursday, January 19, 2012 12:49:17 PM

Ah.

First you must learn all you can.

Then you must decide what interests you.

Then you must decide if you would like to know more.

Then you must find out if it is worth pursuing for a living or if it will always remain a hobby.

Then you may do what you wish.

Lastly, when you have settled in (maybe when you are in your twenties) you can start thinking for yourself:
Why this and not that?

Then you will begin to see the inner workings of a massive wheel and all its tiny parts.

CláudioClaudioAlb Thursday, January 19, 2012 3:00:25 PM

Thank you so much, Weatherlawyer. What you said is very important. I will keep thy words. I love to learn, to discover more and more. Always learn and discover new things about our cultures, our songs, our world, our universe

But what I meant is that I don't know what I have to do to know where a new earthquake will happen. I don't have enough data about this, to know this

Weatherlawyer Thursday, January 19, 2012 7:14:43 PM

Arm yourself against fools then and I shall tell you.

CláudioClaudioAlb Thursday, January 19, 2012 7:28:33 PM

I didn't understood

confused??? what did you meant?

Weatherlawyer Thursday, January 19, 2012 7:47:35 PM

Aha.

I mean no harm. It is the motto of only one science:

First do no harm.

Think what monsters we have become because physics has no such qualms.
Nor chemistry.

I am not going to tell you how to use Brazilian tools because I don't know what they are.

I will instead tell you only what I now. The Atlantic Sea Level Air Pressure Charts and what it means.

Go now and find today's. For it shows a large cyclone in the gap between Europe and Greenland.

The same cyclone there at any time, means a tropical storm is also running.

I forecast it one day this spell. Then the next I said no there will be no spell because of the earthquake.

Now go and see what type of and earthquake it turned out to be. Tell me if you have ever seen the like of "it".

I have been up all night and have only had a couple of hour's sleep so I am going to get some rest for a few hours now. I am about to conk-out.

I will post more on the Lunartist chart site.

Have fun.

Weatherlawyer Thursday, January 19, 2012 9:42:53 PM

I think that you will not be able to see those charts in all their gloory with an internet phone. You will not be able to see the next ones, the Northern Hemisphere charts form Canada.

Let me see if I can find you a picture of the Northern Hemisphere that shows its Isobars with more resolution.

Weatherlawyer Thursday, January 19, 2012 9:55:07 PM

Originally posted by Weatherlawyer:

Let me see if I can find you a picture of the Northern Hemisphere that shows its Isobars with more resolution.


Here it is the second chart down:
http://wxmaps.org/pix/hemi.00hr.html

The opposite side of the earth is here:
http://wxmaps.org/pix/shemi.00hr.html

Find the dark blue mass nearest the North Pole. That is the one that is the same as the MetOffice map shows. It lies between Greenland and Norway.

You can make out Spain and Portugal in the chart. Draw a line up from Portugal and it goes through that blue blob on to the Pole itself.

***

When the tropical depressions: Eight and Ethyl disperse, they will go down to the South Pole. You can watch them do it on the charts from the same site.

I showed them to you in my earlier posts to this thread. But you can easily find them again on here:

http://wxmaps.org/pix.html

Weatherlawyer Thursday, January 19, 2012 9:59:25 PM

When the North Atlantic Oscillation is negative; that is when the air masses are weak, maximum high and low pressures are nearer 1016 millibars than they can be on other occasions.

When that happens in summer hurricanes travel north instead of west and they go straight into the Arctic via the same route this storm is going to take.

Except this is winter and when this storm splits into two or three it will go east.

Pity.

But you still have some southern storms to watch.

Weatherlawyer Thursday, January 19, 2012 10:06:02 PM

When the storms in the Northern hemispher try to totate the way they do in the couthern hemisphere, they are stymied by their attraction to land. And by the fact that the middle of the Arctic has the rest of the Mid Atlantic ridge running through it.

Instead of going to the Pole they will go to rest in the large bays in the Arctic. In summer when temperatures permit they split into three in the Norwegian sea and one goes to the mouth of the Lena river, One goes to the mouth of the Mackenzie and one goes I forget ewhere. Maybe Norway?

Maybe the Baltic takes it's share early?

I do not know.

After that for reasons I don't yet understand, I think we will get three or so many pairs or triplets of earthquakes.

***

OR.

It may just be a coincidence that the tectonic plates were going to burp after mating anyway and it just suited them to do so when those Lows embedded themselves when and where they did.

Do you have computers in school?

CláudioClaudioAlb Thursday, January 19, 2012 11:03:06 PM

Okay, thanks for all, Weatherlawyer. After I'll read all with atention and calm when I back. Now I need to go. Yes, I have computers in my school but I'm in vacations (is summer here)

Thank you so much

Weatherlawyer Thursday, January 19, 2012 11:13:18 PM

Originally posted by ClaudioAlb:

Yes, I have computers in my school but I'm in vacations (is summer here)


No matter.

You can learn enough with your phone now to astonish you classmates when you return and are able to forecast earthquakes and tropical storms.

Maybe your geography teacher will let you do a project on it for the school paper or whatever Brazilian schools have for a newsletter these days.

Weatherlawyer Thursday, January 19, 2012 11:16:51 PM

You will have to be sure of yourself by then of course for if you make one tiny mistake they will shoot you down in flames.

On a larger screen you can see more clearly what is happening and you can save images and highlight them, even use a photo-shop tool to make things clearer.

CláudioClaudioAlb Friday, January 20, 2012 4:24:42 PM

I read slowly and carefully to what you wrote. I also saw the graphs that you gave me. Everything that you said is very interesting. Thanks for explaining me what you know. Thanks for the graphs too up

Weatherlawyer Friday, January 20, 2012 11:13:39 PM

Good luck.

CláudioClaudioAlb Sunday, January 22, 2012 12:54:03 PM

Thank you so much

catseopcat Friday, February 3, 2012 4:47:03 PM

I had not seen this page , Claudio! Finally images! yes
@ Lastly, when you have settled in (maybe when you are in your twenties) you can start thinking for yourself , Why this and not that?

I don't know if Weatherlawyer talking about life or about this page
Why 20 years? I think you can begin to think for yourself even before ! 14 years is a good year

Weatherlawyer Friday, February 3, 2012 5:11:20 PM

You begin to think for yourself from the cradle but we also get conditioned by our family, friends, cultures and politics.

You are in mortal danger from brainwashing at school. Then you have to conform to work practices, then you begin to find your feet.

But I have a 100% totally different point of view to contemporary earth sciencew.

My stuff works. I don't get paid to think conventional thoughts. I just do this for fun, interest and overwhelming desire to find out what is going on.

Believe me, I did try to make sense of alternative ideas.

catseopcat Friday, February 3, 2012 5:34:10 PM

all our life we are conditioned , even if we changed our thinking in adolescence and it's differently than before

for the work is other thing ...

Weatherlawyer Saturday, February 4, 2012 12:04:55 AM

But what happens in schools is that regardless of what is right and wrong, the teacher has to get his children through certain hoops.

Stuff they may not have thought about will be presented as fact. And when it comes to geology, there are so very few facts.

All earthquakes have to take place below or very near 5 miles or the pressure of water near that depth in order for the water to be able to dissolve rock. To do that it has to be a liquid steam. And at a temperature pressure phase change that make the solute unstable/stable.

Otherwise earthquake would make holes in the surface of the earht.

They never do.

All I ask is: Why?

All that stuff above is impossible and improbable yet it is considered cutting edge science. You might want to ask why. And why we can forecast weather but not quakes.

Take a look at the pressure systems in Antarctica when there is a quake. They alway occur when a Deep Low hits the continent. And this last one actually fed through Brazil.

When I am organised I will post a link and also some files that I saved of a few weather model runs showing it occurring. Meanwhile, you might find some reference to the situation on this thread:
Edit to fix link:
http://my.opera.com/Are-You-a-Lunarist-like-Myself/albums/showpic.dml?album=10717872&picture=141335582#comment81412732

It got a bit side-tracked by the end of it but it is about the way the patterns run down from the Equator to the South Pole.

When it gets there there is always a quake. When it gets to a certain bay like the Ross Ice Shelf it curves around on itself because of the shape of the land and makes a big increase in the pressure "gradient".

The Low then has to rise 3 miles over the surface of the ice and something in that process sends a shockwave underground to the epicentre.

It can't be much but it is evidently enough.
Unless someone finds out differently.
Fancy having a go?

catseopcat Saturday, February 4, 2012 8:52:10 AM

sorry but your link is Forbidden for me !!

already in French ....but it is complicated even more in English ,because it's complexe than you had said awww

Weatherlawyer Saturday, February 4, 2012 8:49:22 PM

Sorry about that. It was copied from the "subscriptions" tab.

Here's the link again:
http://my.opera.com/Are-You-a-Lunarist-like-Myself/albums/showpic.dml?album=10717872&picture=141335582#comment81412732

catseopcat Saturday, February 4, 2012 9:07:43 PM

ok thanks but it's too difficult for me

Weatherlawyer Saturday, February 4, 2012 9:32:28 PM

Sorry.

I am not organised at all and I lost a load of files <<< that has messed with my head.

I have just found I can't use the information that is stuck on a half dead drive.

Let me get back to you.

catseopcat Saturday, February 4, 2012 9:42:14 PM

it's only the sujet of your page , disasters , pressures ...etc ! they are difficult to understand in french , in english it's more difficult !
but I see your are a enthusiast ,passionate smile

zrafatdjmd1 Saturday, February 4, 2012 9:44:32 PM

Hey Cat, please... Take heart, we all are learning over there. None master by the way.

Just a funny learning process. smile

Weatherlawyer Sunday, February 5, 2012 8:03:13 AM

Originally posted by opcat:

I see your are a enthusiast ,passionate


Some people say I am a kook.

But it is them who are all wrong, all of them. I just have foam coming out of my mouth because of allergies.

Weatherlawyer Sunday, February 5, 2012 8:12:47 AM

Hey, Teresa...
I lost another hard drive and all the charts I was collecting. I don't suppose you were downloading the Antarctic charts before the recent quake?

I have some from 2nd Feb on. Everything has gone to pot here and I am sure the situation is still bad as the weather is unusual here and I am off my rocker again.

Back pain, gout, stiffness and unable to do anything properly.
And using a half dead computer.

So:
Situation Normal here Am Fed Up.
Make my day, tell me my amanuensis has pulled me out of the frying pan.

catseopcat Sunday, February 5, 2012 8:27:23 AM

CláudioClaudioAlb Tuesday, March 6, 2012 11:38:26 PM

Hey you all, I was reading the conversation of you all. Thanks for the interstings informations, Weatherlawyer up I love these things and subjects. Thanks for the links

Hey Catse, merci beacoup pour ta visite ici et merci aussi pour des liens que tu donner à moi yes (desolé mon bad français, friend Catse de France bigsmile )

Hola, Teresa ! Gracias también, amiga de Venezuela yes bom ler as tuas palavras aqui de novo também

Obrigado vocês três adultos

zrafatdjmd1 Tuesday, March 6, 2012 11:59:47 PM

Hola de nuevo! bigsmile

¿Qué has estado haciendo todos estos días de ausencia, Claudio?

CláudioClaudioAlb Wednesday, March 7, 2012 12:19:10 AM

Hola !

Perdão, Teresa. O motivo da minha ausência durante todos estes dias é que ocorreu um problema com o meu celular, onde eu usava a internet e então ele quebrou e estou sem usar a internet como usava antes... Sinto muita falta por não poder conversar com vocês e perguntar como vão vocês... Não posso comprar outro celular tão breve... Mas isso não é problema para mim, pois de qualquer forma se eu tivesse internet, eu não teria muito tempo para usá-la, pois tenho muita coisa para estudar na escola. Sinto falta mesmo é de vocês, meus amigos daqui...

Desculpe, meu tempo está acabando. Eu Tenho que log off...

Boa noite, Teresa. Espero que todos vocês estejam bem. Boa noite !

Até mais up

zrafatdjmd1 Wednesday, March 7, 2012 12:27:32 AM

Okay. Gracias por ponernos al tanto de tu vida.

Da gusto saber que estás bien y ocupado en tus estudios.

Cuídate de mantenerte así. Me dió un gusto leerte, mi amiguito de Brasil bigsmile

Estamos en contacto...

CláudioClaudioAlb Wednesday, March 7, 2012 12:42:08 AM

Sim, estou bem e agora melhor ainda! Tuas palavras me deixaram muito feliz! Gracias, Teresa!
Me gusta cuando me llamas de amiguito

Ah, estou lendo "Mago de Oz" em espanhol. Sei que é um livro infantil, mas acho muito bonita a maneira dos textos em espanhol. O espanhol usa termos belos que infelizmente deixaram de existir em português... Gosto muito de ler em espanhol! O espanhol tem uma beleza que deixou de existir no português brasileiro...


Sí. Nuevamente en contacto y eres muy gentil happy

Buenas noches amiga de Venezuela

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