Playing Flash videos in Opera under Gentoo Linux
Friday, 27. July 2007, 05:39:36
This post is actually an adaptation of a bug report I submitted to Opera Software, based on my own experience and on what I learnt from Gentoo Bug 127200 (netscape-flash misbehaves in Opera). I think this information is too valuable to be hidden at internal Opera Software bug tracker and at Gentoo bugzilla.
The issue: Flash videos are not played.
I can try YouTube, Google Videos or any other site. It does not work.
My system:
Why this happens:
Depending on where the libflashplayer.so is installed (or, if more than one is installed, which one is "default"), then the video won't be played.
The gory details about why this happens are described at Gentoo bug 127200 (netscape-flash misbehaves in Opera).
In summary, from what I could understand:
The solutions:
The solution consists in telling Opera to not use /opt/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so. This can be done in three ways:
Solution 1: Preferences -> Advanced -> Downloads ->
application/x-shockwave-flash swf -> Edit... -> Select the correct plugin at
"Use plug-in" drop-down (if more than one is displayed, select any one that does not contain "netscape" in path). Repeat this for application/futuresplash spl file
type. There is no need to restart Opera after this change.
Solution 2: Manually edit ~/.opera/opera6.ini while Opera is closed and change the paths.
Solution 3: Add "/opt/netscape/plugins=2" to ~/.opera/pluginpath.ini.
Suggestion to Opera Software:
Opera Software can workaround this. The Opera launcher script should check if the /opt/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so path (or the /netscape.*libflashplayer.so/ regex) is present in ~/.opera/opera6.ini. If it is present, then warn the user that this is known to not work (a simple message printed to terminal will be helpful enough).
Suggestion to Macromedia/Adobe:
I think Flash technology is great, is powerful, is easy and fun to use.
But I think Flash sucks. Flash player is limited to Windows platform plus some few buggy and slow (or slower than windows) implementations on other platforms. The Flash format should be open, and anyone should be able to write a compatible flash player without need for reverse engineering. This would also allow anyone to fix bugs like this one.
Adobe site also sucks.
Suggestion to webmasters:
Avoid using Flash without a really good reason. Don't make Flash-based sites, they are slow and sometimes buggy. Don't use Flash for things that can be done without it (menus, for example). Don't use transparent Flash objects over other objects, because many times this is not supported by browser.
I was thinking about writing above paragraph in bold font with a big font size, but even that way it won't reach the right people. If you are still in doubt, also see Web Pages That Suck.
Am I saying any Flash is bad? No. Flash videos are the latest "revolution" in web pages, as well as AJAX. Flash player allowed us to watch videos without downloading hundreds of codecs and plugins (RealPlayer plugin, Quicktime plugin, codecs, more codecs, yet another video plugin...). This is great, but don't abuse (or misuse) Flash.
Updates/trackbacks(section added on 2007-12-30)
Supposedly, this blog should automatically detect and list trackbacks, linkbacks and things like that. Well, in case it does not work well, I will post here or in comments whatever I find.
2007-12-30 It was a happy surprise to find a YouTube video showing the user applying this solution and linking back to this post. I'm glad to find it is being useful for other people. YouTube works in Opera (Linux). Honest. (looks like the video was published on 2007-09-16, but I found it only today, 2007-12-30)
The issue: Flash videos are not played.
I can try YouTube, Google Videos or any other site. It does not work.
My system:
- Gentoo Linux x86
- Opera 9.x
- Flash Player plugin 9.0.x.x
Why this happens:
Depending on where the libflashplayer.so is installed (or, if more than one is installed, which one is "default"), then the video won't be played.
The gory details about why this happens are described at Gentoo bug 127200 (netscape-flash misbehaves in Opera).
In summary, from what I could understand:
- If libflashplayer.so detects "netscape" in its own pathname, then videos won't be played (at least not in Opera). I guess it enters in some crazy compatibility mode with Netscape browser (R.I.P.)
- Gentoo installs libflashplayer.so at /opt/netscape/plugins/, and installs a symlink at /usr/lib/nsbrowser/plugins/.
- Gentoo Opera ebuild makes a symlink /opt/opera/lib/opera/plugins/libflashplayer.so -> /opt/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so.
- Gentoo Opera ebuild sets "/opt/netscape/plugins=2" at /opt/opera/share/opera/ini/pluginpath.ini, but I guess this file might be ignored.
- Some Opera users (like me) might have opera6.ini selecting /opt/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so as Flash Player plugin. For these users, flash videos won't be played.
- New Opera users (with a brand-new empty profile directory) will get the correct paths since the first time, and Flash videos will work for them.
The solutions:
The solution consists in telling Opera to not use /opt/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so. This can be done in three ways:
Solution 1: Preferences -> Advanced -> Downloads ->
application/x-shockwave-flash swf -> Edit... -> Select the correct plugin at
"Use plug-in" drop-down (if more than one is displayed, select any one that does not contain "netscape" in path). Repeat this for application/futuresplash spl file
type. There is no need to restart Opera after this change.
Solution 2: Manually edit ~/.opera/opera6.ini while Opera is closed and change the paths.
Solution 3: Add "/opt/netscape/plugins=2" to ~/.opera/pluginpath.ini.
Suggestion to Opera Software:
Opera Software can workaround this. The Opera launcher script should check if the /opt/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so path (or the /netscape.*libflashplayer.so/ regex) is present in ~/.opera/opera6.ini. If it is present, then warn the user that this is known to not work (a simple message printed to terminal will be helpful enough).
Suggestion to Macromedia/Adobe:
I think Flash technology is great, is powerful, is easy and fun to use.
But I think Flash sucks. Flash player is limited to Windows platform plus some few buggy and slow (or slower than windows) implementations on other platforms. The Flash format should be open, and anyone should be able to write a compatible flash player without need for reverse engineering. This would also allow anyone to fix bugs like this one.
Adobe site also sucks.
Suggestion to webmasters:
Avoid using Flash without a really good reason. Don't make Flash-based sites, they are slow and sometimes buggy. Don't use Flash for things that can be done without it (menus, for example). Don't use transparent Flash objects over other objects, because many times this is not supported by browser.
I was thinking about writing above paragraph in bold font with a big font size, but even that way it won't reach the right people. If you are still in doubt, also see Web Pages That Suck.
Am I saying any Flash is bad? No. Flash videos are the latest "revolution" in web pages, as well as AJAX. Flash player allowed us to watch videos without downloading hundreds of codecs and plugins (RealPlayer plugin, Quicktime plugin, codecs, more codecs, yet another video plugin...). This is great, but don't abuse (or misuse) Flash.
Updates/trackbacks(section added on 2007-12-30)
Supposedly, this blog should automatically detect and list trackbacks, linkbacks and things like that. Well, in case it does not work well, I will post here or in comments whatever I find.
2007-12-30 It was a happy surprise to find a YouTube video showing the user applying this solution and linking back to this post. I'm glad to find it is being useful for other people. YouTube works in Opera (Linux). Honest. (looks like the video was published on 2007-09-16, but I found it only today, 2007-12-30)
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