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"Quantitative engineering"?

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Someone just said it on TV. I think they meant 'Quantitative easing'.

It means 'Inventing money'.

I think.

It's money, Jim, but not as we know it.

It's electronic money and doesn't really exist in the real world, it's just there for the banks to use to start them lending money to each other again. I do find myself worrying though, that they might get it mixed up with the real money. What if they then lend it to me? Will I get into trouble for spending money that isn't really there?

The real danger with this scheme - and it's one which the-powers-that-be are hoping that the-people-who-watch-out-for-this-kinda-stuff are not going to notice (But I suspect that they will) - is that other nation's financiers will think that this money is a bit real, they will imagine it in terms of suitcases full of money, and they will realise that this means that the pound is now worth less because there are more of them to divide into the total wealth of the United Kingdom, and they will devalue it.

This of course gives me an idea that I would really like to see as an experiment, seeing as how everything which is being done to fix this crisis is experimental anyway. It goes like this.

Bring forward next year's Domesday Book (You probaby know it as 'The Census'). Give everyone of post-school age who is mentioned therein a million quid of real, freshly minted notes. The pound will immediately devalue, but that won't matter because it will, at worst, only half in value, meaning that everyone will now have the equivalent of half a million quid.

If we are to believe the statistics... :rolleyes: ...then 90% of our wealth is owned by 10% of the population, so 90% of the population will be much better off, and the richest 10% won't be, but they'll still be stinking rich beyond the realms of anything that can be ethically justified so we really don't care much about them, do we?

The important thing is that 90% of us will start spending money. Some will be sensible and will remain fairly solvent, others will simply hand the lot over to the top 10% who will rapidly become every bit as rich as they were in the first place.

Most important of all. I will be better off, and so, incidentally will you in all probability.

Will you tell Gordon or shall I? :knight:

It's nearly official. We're depressed.

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Yup, it's true. It seems like later today it will be announced that we really are finally in a state of depression, which may come as a shock to all those convinced that we already were. Gosh, maybe it's the way they calculate what a depression really is that's wrong. What I don't quite get is all these people broadcasting that Britain's depression is going to be soooo much worse than anyone else's, yet most of the rest of the world is already in depression and we're only just getting there. Sort of like flogging a dead horse without telling the horse it's dead...

What I want to know is, where is all the money? The amount of dosh that's disappeared from the world's economy can't just be stored under anyone's matress, not unless they're really really big people; it must have gone somewhere, who's been seen wandering around town with several large heavy suitcases? I suspect the 2nd world have it. I've often wondered who and where they are and now I know, they're right there where all the money's gone.

You know how I hate to say "I told you so", but I do believe that I told someone at some time that if you let idiots like Thatcher destroy your manufacturing base you're only asking for trouble, never mind that other idiot, Digby Whatever, saying that now we can do what Britain does best and add value to products brought (Maybe that should be 'Bought') in from abroad. If we do that our money goes out of the country and none comes back in, and it doesn't take the foreign manufacturers long to work out what value we're adding and start building it in for themselves.

Surely any idiot can work out that if you buy all your goods from China and India there's eventually going to be no money left in the country?

Is it time for the revolution yet? :rolleyes:

It's madness I tell you! Madness...

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Back in the days of the Thatcher (I used to call her a madwoman, but now she has dementia it's not PC to call her that any more. There's ironic for you. And I was right all along... :smile: ) unemployment quadrupled and the Labour Party urged the Conservatives to spend the money that they were wasting on unemployment benefit on buying jobs so that the people could earn the money and produce product, the Conservatives resisted this, they felt that that way socialism lay, and that it would be better to give more money to the rich so that they could either set up new businesses and employ people or at the very least spend it. Instead they simply trousered it.

So bearing that in mind the Conservatives are now urging the New Labour Party to spend the money that they're wasting on unemployment benefit upon buying jobs so that the people can earn the money and produce product. New Labour are, however, resisting their exhortations, believing that that way Old Labour lies. Instead they feel that it would be better to cut taxes to put money in the hands of the people which they may then go out and spend. Of course tax cuts always favour the rich, and as they have already demonstrated, whatever they do do with it, they won't spend it...

Meanwhile, for years now the Conservatives have been claiming that the only reason New Labour's monetory policy was so successfull was that they were simply continuing with the Tory's monetory policy, conveniently forgetting that while they were in power the country was simply going through a seemingly endless session of depression - slump - depression - slump. Now that the New Labour miracle has expired and we are heading back into depression again, instead of saying "See? We knew this would happen if you kept on following our monetory policies", the Conservatives are saying they would have done things differently.

The only thing I know for sure is that whoever is in, the money's going to be shovelled at the rich and it's going to be the ordinary working stiff who's expected to pay for it.

Strange silence of the parliamentarians...

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I just heard on the news that we're now in the worst slump we've been in since 1987. So there I was, all prepared for the usual accusions from one lot of politicians and the excuses from the other lot.

Nothing. Silence. Just comment from people in the city and the resident news dept. talking heads.

It took me a little while to work it out but now I think I've got it.

In 1987 this lot were the other lot (If you catch my drift...).

Things are more like they are today than they have ever been before.

Got them old crenchit crud blues again.

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The current credit crunch crisis is certainly keeping a lot of forums busy. It's enlightening to read some of the strange views people have on the subject, and I dare say they think the same about me. Fortunately I wasn't a member of most of the forums I visited so I couldn't get involved or I might have been going without food or sleep for the last couple of days.

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