The Dark Furie

Edgy And Audacious - A Tale Of Tags

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There's an old adage that you can tell a lot about a man by the books he reads (because it was well known in those days that a woman who reads is a witch and should be burned) and what he takes from them. Now, I've read The Da Vinci Code and I thinks it's an average book at best, yet so many people still talk about it like it's the be all and end all of literary achievement. These people are, to be completely fair to them, idiots. Not only are they unable to form an opinion free of the constraints of popular thought, but they mistake the level of controversy the book has gained in some circles over it's subject matter for hype over the writing talent of the author. They go further to reinforce their views, describing the book to their contemporaries as "edgy" and "audacious" which just happens to be their description of anything that relates an old idea that they've never heard before in a medium they're faintly aware of. Why, you may wonder, am I suddenly lashing at out the readers of a book which, to it's credit, doesn't contain sparkly vampires? Well, one of them just wasted about an hour and a half of my time so they all must be punished.

It all started before Christmas. Knowing that Android tablet computers were coming out and getting cheaper all the time I started looking into them. I've really started getting into e-books recently as I've found books that are out of print in paper format anymore and been reading them on my phone. Unfortunately a phone isn't the best device to read books on (although my current device isn't as bad as some and actually provides an enjoyable experience the odd book, but is limited by applications that can't manage many formats or only have limited space for novels) so I started looking into e-reader devices. One quick price check on the web, a few hours sobbing later and I tearfully reunited with my phone, stroking her and telling her I'd never leave her again (my fingers were crossed - don't you judge me). As I'm sure you've gathered from that last sentence, dedicated e-reader devices are bloody expensive. That's when I hit on an Android tablet device as the best solution. Android is cheap enough that the devices can be manufactured quite cheaply, the operating system has several high powered e-reader applications (my current favourite is Aldiko) out on it and there are plenty of other applications available that can upgrade the functionality as and when I need to so I figured that the price would probably be worth it for one of those. Even so, I wasn't willing to pay over a hundred pounds for one and they weren't quite that cheap yet. A couple of days after Christmas, Kim found one of the tablets (a Chinese knockoff - you know the sort) heavily discounted on a site and we ended up ordering it. There's actually a story there. See, I thought Kim was saying that she knew of the site and that it was alright and she thought I was saying the same thing so, bolstered by knowing the other knew of the site, we put the order in. After the money had gone we realised our mistake and went hunting for reviews of the site to set our minds at ease. It wasn't pretty and we spent the next two weeks worried that the single good review amongst the hundreds of bad ones was the more accurate. Anyway the tablet arrived yesterday with no problems (and no customs charges yes ) and I've been setting it up ever since. For half the price of most dedicated e-readers I now have a device capable of reading all formats of e-book after downloading four e-reader applications (none of which are available for Symbian unfortunately, even Amazon's Kindle which they made from the Symbian Mobipocket application that they bought years ago and then discontinued so it hasn't been updated for later devices) as well as both formats of digital comic book, which is something else I've been getting back into. On top of that I get to truly experience Android on my own device (official opinion - still needs work but currently the only true contender for Symbian's crown).

So tablet in hand I transferred all of my e-books into the device and left it overnight to import them all into the relevant applications. Unfortunately, though I've been downloading book collections recently, deleting the irrelevant ones and editing the metadata on ones I want to keep, I somehow managed to send all of the unedited files over including the books I'd tried to delete from my library resulting in over 200 extra books (including a Mills & Boon yuck ) being added and over 600 that needed editing again. One of those was The Da Vinci Code (as I said it's average, not specifically bad, so I'd decided to leave it on) and when I opened the metadata on that I got the shock of my life. Whoever had uploaded this book needs a bloody slap. Over a hundred tags were present on that one book alone, and they weren't even the sorts of things you'd need. I mean it had been tagged with "da vinvi;" for crap's sake. Who in their right mind would think "Oh, I just fancy reading that Da Vinci book now. Luckily I tagged it with the title so I can find it more easily."? Other tags included "art gallery", "art gallery curators" and the rather laughable "art gallery curators - crimes against" (because obviously there are so many books that fit that description). Then there were three separate "Leonardo" tags, each with a different spelling (and none of them the correct spelling either). For deity's sake people, if you can't spell it then give up - it's not like you'd search for that by that tag anyway. Also included was "cookery" (I suppose because someone cooks in the book?), "comic books and graphic novels" (I actually checked at seeing that and it was neither of those), "novel" (does that really narrow anyone's book collection down?), "vampire eroticism" (have you even read this book, dude???) and the ever descriptive "telephone". It's not bloody needed!

An Edgy & Audacious Process

You use tags to be descriptive but not overly so. You need to define whether the book is fiction or non-fiction, what genre it's in (horror, comedy, pirate, "vampire eroticism" rolleyes or whatever you want), apply different genres multiple times until the book is better described, add in a series if applicable (this can be the world the books are set in, the main character or whatever if the series doesn't have a name). Using that simple system of tags you'll be able to narrow your books down much quicker and more easily. Sure, it's not as effective as tagging each book with the bloody title, but it will give you a better selection of books for your mood. Combined with the ratings system you should be able to narrow your collection down to a few books and then pick by title. I know it's an audacious idea, edgy even, but you know it makes sense. up

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Comments

Pineas2 Wednesday, January 12, 2011 1:51:01 PM

Da Vinci Code? Quite the half of the book is stolen from everywhere, be it the web or that old book about Jesus having children with Maria of Magdala whose offsprings are the Merovingians. Written in an average manor. Ok, no vampires in it (where is Buffy when we need her!) but there are so many books to be read which are more relevant or much better written.

On paper I have just finished again the Odyssey by Mr. Homer and have started "Priam's Lens" by Jack L. Chalker. On the phone (still the Motorola L6) it is a short story by some unknown german.

Dark FurieFurie Wednesday, January 12, 2011 3:12:13 PM

Originally posted by Pineas2:

that old book about Jesus having children with Maria of Magdala whose offsprings are the Merovingians


I wrote up a thesis on that and got booted out of Uni over it. irked

KYrenKYren Wednesday, January 12, 2011 3:33:54 PM

Mik, I think phones should have at least 4 inch screens, a 500Mhz processor, 8gb inbuilt memory, and a good pdf and ebook reader. 2Gb memory card on my E71 is full.

Pineas2 Wednesday, January 12, 2011 3:44:07 PM

"I wrote up a thesis on that and got booted out of Uni over it.

Well, after Da Vinci Code - The movie Mr. Brown could buy himself an university.

Dark FurieFurie Wednesday, January 12, 2011 3:52:57 PM

He'd best let me in for free if he does.

Kiran, you also expect all that for a budget price which is unrealistic. You want that sort of stuff you have to pay for it.

funzfunz81 Wednesday, January 12, 2011 3:54:57 PM

Sounds like the tagging is probably the best bit about the book, at least it's quite entertaining lol

KYrenKYren Wednesday, January 12, 2011 4:35:54 PM

Mik all I do is dream. I have more things in my dreams than in my reality. bigsmile

Dark FurieFurie Wednesday, January 12, 2011 4:53:12 PM

Fan, if you count entertaining as an hour and a half of removing the tags from the book, finding out the device handily kept them in it's memory and having to manually delete each of them then yes, it's great fun. cry


Kiran, your problem is that you aren't happy with reality when the dream seems better. Even when your dream is reached you wont be happy because you'll have come up with even more requirements by then and they'll be equally out of reach for the price range you're aiming at.

My phone, top of the range in 2009 and still one of the big boys thanks to some of my own modifications (I'll be showing it off soon), only has a 600MHz processor, 3.2 inch screen and 8GB hard drive (plus room and support for a single 32GB memory card). The eBook reader had to be downloaded much as it had to be for the Android tablet and most other devices. The PDF reader is quite good but I rarely need to use them anyway. That's still not affordable in the budget range you're aiming for, and doesn't fully meet your requirements, so you can imagine how others will rack up. Your best hope is to keep an eye on Samsung's Wave OS.

funzfunz81 Wednesday, January 12, 2011 5:04:54 PM

Be a dear and post them all to make my day, please lol
You know, my mind still can't accept the idea of an e-reader, I just love the feel of the paper on my finger as I turn the page. It's comforting, in a way. Saddens me that pBooks are dying down

Mad Scientist (عادل)qlue Wednesday, January 12, 2011 6:35:51 PM

Originally posted by Furie:

I wrote up a thesis on that and got booted out of Uni over it.


You were in the wrong Uni! p. In some countries you'd have received an Honours degree! whistle.

Dark FurieFurie Wednesday, January 12, 2011 8:23:45 PM

Originally posted by funz81:

You know, my mind still can't accept the idea of an e-reader, I just love the feel of the paper on my finger as I turn the page. It's comforting, in a way. Saddens me that pBooks are dying


You and me both. I never thought e-books would be as good, and they're not to be completely honest. Thing is, I've now got over 500 books on my device with space for a load more and I'm thinking of upgrading from my 4 gig card to a 32 gig one just for books and comics. All that for the weight of a hardback book, so I can't really complain. I have considered making a thimble out of rizla for that authentic feel though. wink

It's much handier to have it on the phone though as I carry that everywhere and the battery lasts a little longer now I've shut the network off and don't use anything but Wi-Fi. Unfortunately that'd mean upgrading to a new operating system when I don't really need or want one yet. The tablet is my middle ground that at least gives me access to my collection when I'm at home and may come out with me eventually too.

FlaRin Thursday, January 13, 2011 2:21:12 AM

lol Thank you, Mik!! bigsmile

I thought the Da Vinci code a very poorly written good idea. Dan <whatsisname> just isn't a very good writer, technically - his grasp of grammatical construction and 'readability' is crap. But he does have some very good ideas. His stuff needs to be edited by a competent ...err...editor, not a second rate magazine copy writer (which is how it came across to me). Give me a hundred grand and I'll edit the useless words out, juggle the poor grammar, make it about 50 pages shorter and a much more intelligent, exciting read. smile

<goes on to read the rest of Mik's post> smile

Mad Scientist (عادل)qlue Thursday, January 13, 2011 5:43:26 AM

I haven't read the book yet. left.

Pineas2 Thursday, January 13, 2011 7:40:27 AM

I even had a look at the movie for a quarter hour or so, but only for Audrey Tatou. She is great.

funzfunz81 Thursday, January 13, 2011 10:52:13 AM

Yes, I agree eBooks do save space and are handy. I carry a book in my bag whenever I go out and it is quite a pain, especially when it's a paperback knockout
I'm kind of curious about Kindle though, I found good reviews about it and a couple of my friends who use it say it's good. And it claims to have a battery that would last for a whole month of reading smile

Mad Scientist (عادل)qlue Thursday, January 13, 2011 12:13:39 PM

Originally posted by funz81:

And it claims to have a battery that would last for a whole month of reading


Possible, but I doubt the marketing claims come anywhere near the reality! left.
Kindle uses an old-fashioned monochrome lcd. that uses far less power than a colour lcd. One problem is that, like some other notorious propriety products, they can delete books from your kindle device that you've already paid for and you can't do anything about it! awww.
(pssst. it's already happened before so...)

KittyliciousZaphira Thursday, January 13, 2011 5:06:02 PM

I watched the Da Vinci Code as a movie, and I thought I'd give the book a try, since I almost always like the book better than the movie. But I didn't finish the book, it was so no my style of books. down

funzfunz81 Friday, January 14, 2011 3:20:24 PM

Originally posted by qlue:

Possible, but I doubt the marketing claims come anywhere near the reality!



There goes my faith in those marketers! lol. Seriously tho', they can delete books you've already paid for from your device? bigeyes another reason for me to hold on to my pBooks to its last breath then bigsmile

Dark FurieFurie Friday, January 14, 2011 8:11:21 PM

A lot of companies have included that in their terms and conditions recently. Apple started it with the iPhone where they reserved the right to remove applications from your device that they found broke their terms and conditions (one of the reasons I stand against them, in fact). In that case when it finally happened the people who'd paid for the application (from the Apple iTunes store that they got to in the device itself) found they weren't allowed a refund from Apple and were told to ontact the developers of the application. However, as Apple had already taken a 30% slice of everything downloaded through the app store the developers wouldn't give a full refund either.

The situation with the Kindle is the same although there are measures coming into place to address refunds already. Most of the books that have breached the conditions of Amazon have been free so far anyway.

r♡serose-marie Saturday, January 15, 2011 6:28:31 PM

lol What a tag bonanza!
It's a little bit disappointing that this post only has five tags, though...

Dark FurieFurie Saturday, January 15, 2011 6:38:56 PM

Should only be four. up I use a simple category system where posts tend to fit into a few general categories. A cross referencing search system in this site would really help to bring my system to life.

r♡serose-marie Saturday, January 15, 2011 6:47:57 PM

Ah, my bad. Four, yes. Your page is not doing well on my screen you see. The menus are gone, hidden behind your CSS it seems, and it's not easy seeing the tags...

Dark FurieFurie Saturday, January 15, 2011 8:10:21 PM

theoddbod Sunday, January 16, 2011 10:32:36 PM

I always think to myself "I've got no interest in a Kindle or eBooks at all, I like actual books". And then I realise that a massive chunk of my reading is via Opera Mini anyway, on a phone not designed specifically for reading, and wonder if I'm just being partly nostalgic. However, I'd still only want one device for everything (phone, internet, books, music, etc) so I'll be holding off on one for a while yet.

FlaRin Sunday, January 16, 2011 11:50:37 PM

I like real books too, the only problem is that they take up so much shelf space smile But I'm probably not going for an electronic reader anytime soon - too hard to fold the corners over, for a start bigsmile

Dark FurieFurie Monday, January 17, 2011 2:56:51 AM

In record time I've broken the tablet. Even my phones last longer than that usually. awww

FlaRin Monday, January 17, 2011 3:12:53 AM

Trying to stick that souvenir bookmark in between the screen and the casing, huh? I've heard that happens a lot worried

Pineas2 Monday, January 17, 2011 8:00:37 AM

Printed books are necessary as a backup. They are readable without electricity, can survive, well, with the right care, centuries etc.

Mad Scientist (عادل)qlue Monday, January 17, 2011 8:32:33 PM

The first commandment is, "Thou shalt not give the Furie a tablet!" p.

FlaRin Monday, January 17, 2011 8:36:41 PM

...unless it's xtc

r♡serose-marie Saturday, January 22, 2011 5:37:33 PM

Originally posted by Furie:

Odd, it should look something like this for you.

That white box to the left used to be hidden under your top banner. Now it's completely gone, and when on full screen the white sides aren't there. It's the same on Opera, Firefox and Safari.

FlaRin Saturday, January 22, 2011 6:08:28 PM

The 'blog archive' box doesn't show for me either (using FF) smile

Dark FurieFurie Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:36:46 AM

I got rid of it as it was causing problems for you.

FlaRin Sunday, January 23, 2011 1:39:30 AM

Thank you, in that case up

r♡serose-marie Monday, January 24, 2011 8:11:53 AM

How sweet! awww

pssst It wasn't causing problems. Just wasn't visible.

Dark FurieFurie Monday, January 24, 2011 10:35:20 AM

*plucks the flower*

r♡serose-marie Monday, January 24, 2011 12:46:47 PM

eek
Not so sweet! mad

Mad Scientist (عادل)qlue Monday, January 24, 2011 1:08:22 PM

Mik! irked.
What will Kimmie say about you you de-flowering the maidens like that. awww.

Dark FurieFurie Monday, January 24, 2011 4:18:03 PM

I'm sorry, sensitive maiden Aadil. One shalt not deflower you again.

Mad Scientist (عادل)qlue Monday, January 24, 2011 4:40:33 PM

Originally posted by Furie:

One shalt not deflower you again.


But I'm already de-flowered! cry. You'd better find me a new virginity! irked.

Dark FurieFurie Tuesday, January 25, 2011 2:02:00 AM

Take Rose's. pssst She's anybody's if they've got a good sausage line.

r♡serose-marie Wednesday, February 9, 2011 9:06:36 AM

As long as they keep off my forehead! scared

sing Virginities! Get your virginities here! sing
Special price for you, Sir. Hardly ever used. Good price! up

Dark FurieFurie Wednesday, February 9, 2011 9:19:05 AM

I'll take...
*hit by low flying Kim and slammed into a wall*
...none thanks. knockout

Cleanclean Tuesday, October 25, 2011 11:32:26 PM

Originally posted by Furie:

"novel" (does that really narrow anyone's book collection down?)



Hello from the future (I went into your 'tutorials' tag)!

I've been getting into ebooks lately and using Calibre to organize 'em, and the vast majority of books come with the helpful tag 'general'.

Calibre library: 3,395 books (a lot of them are comics). Items tagged with 'general' before I edited the bloody useless tag out ... ? 3,395?

Another favourite is the wonderful 'autobiographies and biographies'. Well which is it, tag creation person? And what if I forget you've written it as a plural and search for 'autobiography' because that's what I feel like reading?

Then there's variations on a theme: 'Political science, political science - united states, political science - united states of america, political science - u.s., political science - u.s.a, political science - america, political science - politicians, political science - history'. knockout

Dark FurieFurie Wednesday, October 26, 2011 9:56:14 AM

Oh dear lord, don't get me started on that lot. I managed to turn 600 books into the same title and author when trying to group edit tags on Calibre. irked

I'm going fully digital with books soon, having had a series I'm reading change the cover style for the third time in the series (and I refuse to buy them all over again). I keep rebuying books I already own in order to keep them neat and I'm through with it. I'll be sorting out epubs of the books I own (already slowly typing them up) and importing them into e-readers, while buying new books that way only.

It makes me a little sad to move away from paper but there are so many benefits to this format, from the ability to change the covers myself rather than rebuy the book to the ability to find out of print novels or manually back up files (I use Sigil to type up my old books as well as ones I'm writing).

Mad Scientist (عادل)qlue Wednesday, October 26, 2011 2:16:05 PM

Just a hint Mik. If you scan the books, you can use Tesseract to convert the scanned images to text. You'll still need to edit the resulting text files to correct errors here and there but it's a lot less work than typing the entire book. up .

Dark FurieFurie Thursday, October 27, 2011 11:18:01 AM

Do I look like I can afford a scanner? rolleyes

Cleanclean Thursday, October 27, 2011 11:57:43 AM

There's probably an app for that ... wink

Mad Scientist (عادل)qlue Friday, October 28, 2011 7:51:06 AM

lol .
Sorry Mik. I made a silly assumption. doh .

Dark FurieFurie Friday, October 28, 2011 12:48:00 PM

There's been apps for that since 2004. Every single one manages to assume that the slightest wrinkle in a page is an accented letter and they have no chance with printing errors that produce half words. I'd spend as much time remarking the pages as I would manually inputting them.

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