The Dark Furie

"I've finally found a mobile friendly site to host my voice posts and game collection files"
Can you share address?

Sounds exciting. I don't even know what web runtime is so I guess that's me out! .
Although if you need me to test something on my phone, let me know. I'll always be willing to try it out. .

Thanks, I will check on it now

I've got a Nokia N73 and I guess I should be able to run widgets. Dont know much about Web Runtime though, do let me know if I can help.

I've got the Firmware version 4.08 12.4.2.1
I dont think its the latest firmware version.
Wouldn't the widget work if I install the Opera Widget Manager?

I've installed the Opera Widget Manager from the sdk and I'm able to run widgets on my mobile now, only problem being I keep getting memory full error message.
Wish Nokia had put more ram on this phone.

Works fine for me. .
But I agree, there appears to be very high ram usage with it. .
A smartphone really offer needs 120Mb ram or better. .
*edited* - sorry for the T9 typo

I've been looking over the whole widgets angle at widgets.opera
does anyone know where I can find a good 'quick-start' guide to writing my own?

[Edit: You are talking about Opera browser widgets, right? If yes, carry on.]
You might want to look at this article.
http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/creating-your-first-opera-widget/

I haven't read it in detail but it appears to be very similar to an article I read a while back with a different title. Unfortunately, the one I read is no longer accessible now.

Thanks Moe. .
The demo widget 'hello world' runs on my phone. (with a little help) .
This gives me the enough to start with. It's going to take me some time to do something with this and I've still got a website to rebuild. .
But widgets give me the possibility of writing hybrid applications that use a widget as a client to interact with my website. .
I've really got to start learning javascript. .
And I'll also need to learn SQL .
Is four days enough to do all that? .

@Mik. I'm using the Opera S60 widget manager here. I haven't gotten around to finding out what the mobile widgets are, or how they work. I suspect that I would need a new phone for that though as this phone would probably never support that. .

Mik, is this what you're busy with? .
It looks very similar to Opera widgets. I wonder if they're going to be interoperable? .

Opera's widgets are .wgt

Ok, I pm'd you but I'll add it here too.
Opera widgets require a config.xml file. This is the main meta file of an opera widget and it won't install without it. .

I don't see it as not following standards. My view is that Opera widgets are essentially proprietary.

As I see it, Opera widgets - as opposed to "normal widgets" - are intended to be used exclusively with Opera's software. Therefore, Opera Software ASA can make any decisions they like regarding these widgets.

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Out of curiosity, which standards are you referring to?

I did a quick Google search and some of the mobile widget standards that I seemed to find claim to be derived from several related draft W3C standards. They are all about a month old (unlike Opera widgets which have been around years, I believe) and all still drafts - and thus W3C don't officially encourage anyone to adopt them yet due to the theoretical possibility that it may be significantly changed.

Interestingly, the same employee of Opera Software is listed as an editor for nearly all of the drafts - alongside representatives from Nokia and Vodafone.

If I've found the right documents - and thus I'm on the right page so far - then I imagine that Opera will adopt that standard in time when it is more developed. They contributed to it, after all.

Maybe it is already supported by cutting-edge development versions of Opera that are not yet available to the general public. :shrug:
I'm using the development Opera Unite version - even though I don't use the Unite component of it - so maybe your widget(s) would work for my copy of Opera. :shrug again:

Well, the draft proposal that Opera Software sent to w3c is one that includes the config.xml file. So the question of what is a standard is a good one.
Mik, if the config.xml file was added, would the widget still run on the other widget platforms you writing for? .

Let's not forget that what I read might not be true - and thus everything I've written isn't necessarily accurate or indeed relevant.

After all, I don't know the first thing about this area - I just typed things into Google and read pages that appeared to be credible. If anyone is likely to be blinded by jargon and buzzwords around here, it is definitely me.

Yes, one of the documents I found is dated 28 May 2009. I'm guessing that wasn't a lucky guess.

If it rings any bells, the other documents in the series I found were last updated 23 April 2009, 18 June 2009 and 25 June 2009.

In the introductory paragraph for the 28 May document, it says that the draft has been drawn up after two years of researching the subject and consulting various organisations. A reference to WRT perhaps?

I'll get back to this one..

So what have you created to add to the Omnia's widget selection?