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Jack and Gwen best friends? Or why they should be...

Monday, 17. March 2008, 17:21:47

TV, Torchwood season 2, LGBT, Torchwood ...

SPOILER WARNING: Includes spoilers for Torchwood season 1 and the episode "Kiss kiss, bang bang"

I've seen some fans argue that the writers shouldn't try to force Jack and Gwen into a romantic relationship as the fans in question feel that Jack has more chemistry with Ianto.
Personally, I think Gwen has more chemistry with Jack than with any of the other characters. I think John Barrowman and Eve Myles play it very well and I would love to see more of that chemistry. Yet at the same time I also love the Jack/Ianto relationship (great chemistry, no denying that), and Gwen cheating on her boyfriend makes me feel uncomfortable.
But the thing is, I would love to see her in a close and passionate relationship with Jack, but not a romantic/sexual relationship...
so how about a close friendship instead? They could write them as best friends, or like brother and sister.
We've already seen them confide in one another on more than one occasion. I mean, who says it would have to be a romantic relationship?
A close friendship could be just as profound, loving and supportive as a romantic relationship. A relationship like this would complement rather than compete with the Jack/Ianto and Gwen/Rhys relationships.
Gwen could always confide in Jack if she's had an argument with Rhys, and Jack can always give her support and advice. ¨
Likewise right from the start Gwen's been someone that Jack's been confiding in about his background.
I think they should definately write Jack and Gwen as best friends.
Even though they often challenge each other's views, it's clear that that they seem to have almost unquestionable faith and admiration for each other... or at least, this is my interpretation. Take Gwen's total refusal to accept Jack's death in the first season finale for example. That's a clear sign that there's something special between the two characters.
I also believe that Jack is drawn to Gwen because of her fearlessness and selflessness (such as her willingness to sacrifice herself in order to save others as demostrated at the end of episodes such as "Day One" and "Kiss kiss, Bang bang")
I think Jack also sees a bit of himself in her: she's determined and stubborn just like him.
They've got so much in common, and they are like mirrors of one another.
I hope they writers don't try to force the two characters into a romantic relationship, yet at the same time I hope they don't marginalize Jack and Gwen's interactions.
John and Eve have brilliant chemistry and given the right scripts they could portray a beautiful and deep friendship between the two characters that would in no way compete with Jack and Ianto's relationship and Gwen and Rhys'.

Gay relationships aren't they only type of relationships that are rare on television. Deep and non-sexual friendships between male and female leads are also rare and something I constantly miss in tv programs. (One of my best childhood friends was a boy, and that relationship meant a lot to me.)
I find it a bit disappointing that there are so few representations of relationships of this type. It's almost as if they are considered inferior.

Cherry / Torchwood_Operative

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Reading Torchwood 3 team's mail...

Wednesday, 23. January 2008, 18:28:55

TV, Torchwood, Science Fiction, Torchwood season 2

Toshiko, Ianto, Owen and Gwen

In case you need to take your mind off reality, BBC's official Torchwood site has some really fun in-character e-mails.
I've picked out some of my favorite bits. WARNING: Contains some likely spoilers for season 2.
From the official Torchwood homepage (no copyright infringement intended):

From: Cooper, Gwen
To: Owen
Subject: Wedding
Date: Wednesday 16th January 2008

Dear All

I overheard Tosh and Ianto talking the other day about what you were going to wear to my wedding. (I assume I wasn't supposed to hear that. For covert intelligence operatives, you lot can be about as subtle as Shirley Bassey sometimes.)

All I wanted to say was, I appreciate that it can be expensive and whatnot, going to weddings, and I don't expect a gift or for you necessarily to come. I won't be offended if you don't come. Really, I won't.

Gwen

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From: Harkness, Jack
To: Owen
Subject: Out of office auto reply: Re: Wedding
Date: Wednesday 16th January 2008

Thank you for your e-mail.

Captain Jack Harkness is out of the office. He will deal with your query if and when he returns. If your query is urgent, please contact Gwen Cooper.

Yours Faithfully

Torchwood Staff

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From: Harper, Owen
To: Ianto
Subject: Out of office rant
Date: Wednesday 16th January 2008

Ianto

I am still getting Jack's Out Of Office every time we send round a round robin.
I thought you were going to change it so it didn't do that.

SORT IT OUT IANTO
IANTO SORT IT OUT

cheers

Owen

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From: Jones, Ianto
To: Owen
Subject: Re: Out of office rant
Date: Wednesday 16th January 2008

Owen wrote:
> SORT IT OUT IANTO
> IANTO SORT IT OUT

While I'm doing that, would you also like me to set up your e-mail so that it automatically puts the word 'please' into your messages? As the effort of doing it yourself seems to be beyond you.

Ianto

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From: Harper, Owen
To: Ianto
Subject: Re: Out of office rant
Date: Wednesday 16th January 2008

Ianto wrote:
> While I'm doing that, would you also like me to set up your e-mail
> so that it automatically puts the word 'please' into your
> messages? As the effort of doing it yourself seems to be beyond you.

That would be blinding. Cheers

Owen

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From: Cooper, Gwen
To: Owen
Subject: Himalayas report
Date: Thursday 10th January 2008

Owen, weren't you going to write up a report of the Himalayas mission? No, in fact I'll rephrase that: Owen, you were going to write up a report of the Himalayas mission. And you haven't. Please do so. I need to file it with the MOD so we can get to the bottom of who sent us out there. Not holding out much hope, but it's worth a go.

Gwen

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From: Harper, Owen
To: Gwen
Subject: Himalayas report
Date: Tuesday 18th December 2007

The Himalayas report is written and filed under 'Time, Waste of'. Good luck with the MOD - I'm glad it's you dealing with that rubbish instead of me.

Owen

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From: Jones, Ianto
To: Gwen
Subject: Tourist board
Date: Monday 14th January 2008

Can you have a word with the Tourist Board? I'm trying to get hold of new brochures and leaflets for the dummy office (most of ours are from 2005) and they're being funny about sending me more than one of each. There used to be a lady at their office who sorted them out for me but she's on maternity leave.

Sorry about what I said earlier, by the way. There's no reason you should do everything Jack's way. You're here and he's not.

Ianto

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From: Sato, Toshiko
To: Gwen
Subject: Re: Wedding
Date: Wednesday 16th January 2008

I don't mind if you don't want us to come. It's your wedding.

Toshiko

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From: Cooper, Gwen
To: Toshiko
Subject: Re: Wedding
Date: Wednesday 16th January 2008

> I don't mind if you don't want us to come. It's your wedding.

No, no, it's not like that... sorry, I just wanted to say that if you'd find it awkward then I don't mind. Though actually I think it's me who's worried about it being awkward. Sorry. I'd love to have you there.

Gwen

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From: Jones, Ianto
To: Owen
Subject: Own Up!
Date: Wednesday 6th February 2008

Dear All

This morning I cleaned out the refrigerator. The following items were inside. Could the owners of these items please make themselves known. Any items not claimed by the end of the day will be disposed of.

* 1x energy drink (half-empty)
* 1x sparkling mineral water (half-empty, flat)
* 2x apples
* 1x pork pie
* 3x milk (actually just 1 now, I threw the others away)
* 1x tomato ketchup
* 1x leftover beef chow mein (probably inedible)
* 1x Cornish pasty
* 1x alien blood sample (OWEN I WARNED YOU ABOUT THIS)
* 4x probiotic yogurt drinks
* 2x salami snacks

Thank you for your kind attention.
Ianto

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From: Harper, Owen
To: Ianto
Subject: Re: Own Up!
Date: Wednesday 6th February 2008
The pie, the pasty and the salami snacks are mine. I reluctantly give my permission for you to throw out the chow mein. Are you sure that's an alien blood sample? I don't remember putting anything like that in there. Are you sure it's not that horrible soup that Gwen made?

Owen

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