more war?
Wednesday, 12. November 2008, 06:49:04
Merris,
I don't really believe this. Sohu.com must be their fox network.
And it's so stupid to think of Japan. After the second world war Japan has been forbidden to even have an army or a navy. So they would be a cinch... Over in a minute. Why don't we just go and rob them.
North Korea would be a war with China.... Confuscius say... Don mess wid de dragon.
I would recommend 'manifest destiny' and declare war against Mexico and Canada. Then we could erase a few imaginary lines.
Of course Canada would get us in dutch with England. But we're used to that.
-------Original Message-------
From: merriscristi@juno.com
Date: 11/11/2008 10:17:46 PM
To: i_artman@operamail.com
Subject: Fw: RAND Lobbies Pentagon: Start War To Save U.S. Economy
Scott....this obsurd...let's do something !!! merris
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RAND Lobbies Pentagon: Start War To Save U.S. Economy
http://www.prisonplanet.com/rand-lobbies-pentagon-start-war-to-save-us-economy.html
EXCLUSIVE: Shocking proposal urges military leaders to attack major foreign power
Paul Joseph Watson & Yihan Dai
Prison Planet.com
Thursday, October 30, 2008
According to reports out of top Chinese mainstream news outlets, the RAND Corporation recently presented a shocking proposal to the Pentagon in which it lobbied for a war to be started with a major foreign power in an attempt to stimulate the American economy and prevent a recession.
A fierce debate has now ensued in China about who that foreign power may be, with China itself as well as Russia and even Japan suspected to be the targets of aggression.
The reports cite French media news sources as having uncovered the proposal, in which RAND suggested that the $700 billion dollars that has been earmarked to bailout Wall Street and failing banks instead be used to finance a new war which would in turn re-invigorate the flagging stock markets.
The RAND Corporation is a notoriously powerful NGO with deep ties to the U.S. military-industrial complex as well as interlocking connections with the Ford, Rockefeller, and Carnegie foundations.
Current directors of RAND include Frank Charles Carlucci III, former Defense Secretary and Deputy Director of the CIA, Ronald L. Olson, Council on Foreign Relations luminary and former Secretary of Labor, and Carl Bildt, top Bilderberg member and former Swedish Prime Minister.
Carlucci was chairman of the Carlyle Group from 1989-2005 and oversaw gargantuan profits the defense contractor made in the aftermath of 9/11 following the invasion of Afghanistan. The Carlyle Group has also received investment money from the Bin Laden family.
Reportedly, the RAND proposal brazenly urged that a new war could be launched to benefit the economy, but stressed that the target country would have to be a major influential power, and not a smaller country on the scale of Afghanistan or Iraq.
The reports have prompted a surge of public debate and tension in China about the possibility that a new global conflict is on the horizon.
China’s biggest media outlet, Sohu.com, speculated that the target of the new war would probably be China or Russia, but that it could also be Iran or another middle eastern country. Japan was also mentioned as a potential target for the reason that Japan holds the most U.S. debt.
North Korea was considered as a target but ruled out because the scale of such a war would not be large enough for RAND’s requirements.
The reported RAND proposal dovetails with recent comments made by Joe Biden, Colin Powell, Madeleine Albright and others, concerning the “guarantee” that Barack Obama will face a major “international crisis” soon after taking office.
It also arrives following a warning from Michael Bayer, chairman of a key Pentagon advisory panel, who echoed the statement that the next administration will face an international crisis within months of taking office.
One would hope that good people, or at least sane people who don’t wish to start a global nuclear war, will oppose the RAND proposal, such as top the military generals who threatened to quit if Bush ordered an attack on Iran. Admiral William Fallon, the head of US Central Command, quit in March last year as a result of his opposition to Bush administration policy on Iran.
Translations from Chinese provided by Yihan Dai.
SOURCES
Sohu.com - http://news.sohu.com/20081030/n260330741.shtml
Ifeng.com - http://news.ifeng.com/mil/4/200810/1029_342_851523.shtml
also see my war protest poem and painting:
http://my.opera.com/I_ArtMan/blog/show.dml/11496















San # 12. November 2008, 07:04
scott cumming # 12. November 2008, 07:12
san, i think you got it wrong though, it's all about the u.s.a. going to war to save the economy, not china. i just meant that china would back korea.
Nicolas Borgsmidt # 12. November 2008, 10:27
Angeliki # 12. November 2008, 11:54
meli,
that's why I stick with the "can projects from YouTube" videos
have a glorious Day!
San # 12. November 2008, 16:03
I don't see any logic in it..are the wars right now saving the economy?
scott cumming # 12. November 2008, 17:30
all the billions we have spent on the war in iraq and the afganistan 'police action' sacked the treasury. somebody got that money though.
i didn't know for sure that the source of this wild idea was specious, but i'll not delete it in case it attracts some interesting comments.
but i will cover it with a new post presently.
Akamu # 12. November 2008, 18:27
As for invading Japan, uhh...yeah.
scott cumming # 12. November 2008, 19:56
i didn't post this as the 'truth', more like a feeler for feedback. because it does touch a raw nerve about government-think and 'newspeak'. (orwell), huxley, havelock ellis and shaw saw all this coming because it conforms to the past. and the past is prologue. that is of course only when we don't learn from our mistakes.
Eliane a/k/a Elly # 13. November 2008, 03:19
shipka # 13. November 2008, 09:44
or I read for first books from Orwell...
Oh! GOD save us of the voracity, of expansivity....this earth is able to to give enough for all of us ... I'm so sad of such messages...I all my life cannot know war...I had born just after the II.world war and except of August 1968 when the Russian and allied arms occupied my country I lived all the time in PEACE...NEVER, NOWHERE WAR MORE!!! it is my wish.
Angeliki # 13. November 2008, 13:26
http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,25642,24645327-5014239,00.html
scott cumming # 13. November 2008, 19:30
sometimes it looks bad, what's going on, and then as time passes we see it had to be that way for a new order to evolve.
maria,
i feel the same way... i've been a pacifist since i could think. i always have thought that there should be a law against war. there must be a better way to solve problems.
i thik anger is mostly to blame and anger is a symptom of a low level of being.
meli,
i heard about that on the news last night. what a great prank. they spent a year setting it up, they say. i would love to have been there and got a copy. they'll be selling on ebay immediately, i predict.
thanks for the link.
Angeliki # 13. November 2008, 19:40
I have many newspapers issued last Wednesday (the day after the elections), they go up to 200.00 dollars each now !!
my son was so thrilled to find out about them , he claimed to his friends that he is rich !
you are welcome meli,
thanks for the YouTube link too!
if you have a chance check TroopTube,
I was delighted to find out about it last night! It was about time!
scott cumming # 13. November 2008, 21:19
well get a couple of the fake ones and save them for twenty years and he will be rich.
i wish i had saved my comics from the fifties... i would be rich from just the first 'action' comic when superman appeared. even before that the captain marvel comics are fetching astronomical prices.
early 'playboy' even. i've never been a very good saver.
great idea... trooptube... i guess.
i know if i were over there facing every day as my possible last one on earth, i would covet every letter sent to me. so i guess a video from family would be even better.
Angeliki # 13. November 2008, 22:21
I usually point out to my kids what is valuable in my household,
from painting to crystals, to them a 150 dollar glass is the same like a 50cent glass,
I want them to use them freely but some things are investments that can bail you out in a hard time...
I love the idea that parents will watch on trooptube Bdays of their kids, graduation videos,a sick relative that they might not see again...we are in our living rooms and we forget that the numbers we hear killed or wounded are humans like us,
yes, i do like the idea very much!
I don't think they would like to have you or me there meli, we are too much of rebels to be brainwashed... (*if I were there* it will be changed to "I will video tape myself running to Canada" )
Eliane a/k/a Elly # 17. November 2008, 02:27
That is a gorgeous piece of art. Sorry, can't afford much of anything right now and I don't know if I would ever be able to afford $7,000 price tag. You company's website is really interesting.
Your first love poem is phenomenal! I didn't read all your poetry, but that one blew me away.
Thanks for sharing your talent!