Least bad or the better bad

Ok, this post leads on from the other but they are kinda different. So this week saw America elections take a historical turn as Barrack Obama wins the presidency. Whilst many people were very glad that a younger, charismatic black man had taken the presidency, some people were unsure. My friend began this whole debate at the dinner table with regards to Obama's policies. She said as a Christian we should not align ourselves with such policies. But another friend said that it would be wrong if McCain had won, even though he was said to be Christian, some of his ideals were not Christian-like and thus gave true Christians a bad name (Im just relaying the arguement here). Then we started debating Obama's taxation policy. Then there was more or less a split between the Humanities students and the Economics/Business/ Commerce people. Although the Commerce people had a relatively good point in terms of higher tax for richer people decreasing the profitibility and productivity of the country (USA), I realised how capitalistically minded, profit orientated we are. Their theory was tax everyone the same even though poorer people will be harder hit, because if you turn a country into a welfare state, people will just get lazy. We shouldnt give people welfare because they are just being lazy and staying at home mad (here again Im just relaying the argument). And as usual, the conversation and this post becomes very socialistically inclined and concerned with the workers.

But also as a politics student (not the best but an average one) I felt like I knew very little. I didnt have a solid foundation of knowledge to give my opinion, so I thought. So I more or less just sat and listened, maybe that's my journalistic side coming out more.

But after this debate I went to Bible study where we looked at Ecclesiates. This sermon spoke about some of the futileness of knowledge. Eccelsiastes 1 verse 12 "I, the Teacher, was king over Israel in Jerusalem. 13 I devoted myself to study and to explore by wisdom all that is done under heaven. What a heavy burden God has laid on men! 14 I have seen all the things that are done under the sun; all of them are meaningless, a chasing after the wind." But there is hope but not in terms of seeking God who fulfills all promises.

That was another topic of debate was the role of religion in the state, but I'll leave that for another time.

Whilst this sounds like a contradiction to my previous post and most of my life's work, but I sorta agree that ignorance can be bliss. When we were younger and didnt know anthing I was alot happier. Then I grew up and had to learn about so much stuff. Then came varsity where I learnt about economics and many of its Catch 22 clauses. I learnt about global warming and that its my fault. I learnt about my country's underdevelopment and all of its Catch 22 clauses where you try to develop a country but how, whose idea of development is it? Do we save the planet and leave some countries poor and underdeveloped or do we try and "develop" them. And I think wow how depressing is this. We chase after knowledge but where will this land us up?
Ironic for a person whose career is based on communication, information and influence that I think ignorance is bliss. Especially, after I said I will vote, but need information to intelligetnly vote.


So we taking this debate and stuff to Biblestudy next week. Will tell you what happens.

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Comments

LexyLexyb Tuesday, November 11, 2008 9:25:01 PM

O.O wow. this post is sick! (the good kinda sick.) its really interesting how conflicted u seem to be on the topic of knowledge. lol i happen to be reading eccl in my devotional time and those words have hit me pretty hard too 'meaningless meaningless' its just opened my eyes to how materialist even the best of us can be. and how far i'v been from being eternally minded. we'v got a pretty crucial election coming up here in S.A but theres alot of uncertainty around the whole deal. mayb your biblestudy cld pray 4 us? thx 4 an awesum and oh so relevant post! wink peace and blessings.

LexyLexyb Tuesday, November 11, 2008 9:30:37 PM

sowi, 4 sum reason i thought u were american :/ i'm so weird.

JoyJeanie Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:31:55 PM

Lol, its cool, I did talk a lot about America. Yip, we need to do a lot of praying for our elections. It hard sometimes though to even know what to pray for cos at times its (so called or argued)beneficial to our country, but against God's will.

LexyLexyb Wednesday, November 12, 2008 8:45:44 PM

yeah i get u. i know i'm really confused about wat to think\believe and tho i fully intend to reg and vote, @ this point i don't know who or wat to vote 4!! i think this whole country needs to turn back to God and only then we will have peace.

ShallowMuse Monday, February 16, 2009 5:39:03 PM

quick thought:
Psalms 146:3-“Do not put your trust in nobles, nor in the son of earthling man, to whom no salvation belongs.”
smile
and thats why i dont vote

HenrySpicyFlier Saturday, February 21, 2009 9:48:19 PM

This is interesting: a Christian youth culture in SA. Where clicking a few links can get you....

Introductions: Henry from Canada. Christian male in mid-40's. Too much life experience to explain here. I will probably (certainly?) not help in solving your political dilemmas, but I hope some insight will help.

I can't help but be impressed that young women like yourself are taking a serious look at the world we live in. Ignorance is bliss - if the goal is to please yourself. Obviously, that's not your goal any more. At this point, it doesn't seem to be that you want (or know how?) to change the world, but at least you want to understand it; to get some foothold on the bigger picture. This post was obviously written quite some time ago and I hope your view has clarified somewhat. Am looking forward to the “religion in the state” post.

“Praying for our elections.” How refreshing! How appropriate! There isn't a “perfect” type of governmental system – but people need government! God has ordained that government is necessary to the effectual running of society (Romans 13:1-7). Government that looks to God's word for wisdom and effectual decision making – but not dominating control – is the ideal. I've been voting since I was 18 at all levels of government. If people have died to establish and maintain the social/political freedom I sometimes take for granted, than I will participate!! Knowing who to choose can be very difficult, but as Shallowmuse said from Ps. 146, I don't put my trust in them. I may be choosing the best of a bad lot, but who knows if that person will be an instrument of good change in the years to come? Once you vote for someone, don't let them off the hook by being passive. Let them know you're out there and are concerned that they do a good job.

“Catch 22s”. Every country that has people has them – or has had them. Is there a way to not perpetuate them that you can be a part of? You are one of a few SA young people I've seen via the Opera Community that is seriously looking at it's country's history and looking to be a part of change. Being entangled in “knowledge” is a part of the process of getting untangled to a clear sense of direction and purpose. Then you'll know what is important – and may God help you to find that clear sense of direction and purpose. It will be murky for awhile, believe me.

JoyJeanie Sunday, February 22, 2009 1:29:44 PM

O wow cool. Thanks for your input, it was great to read. Unfortunately we never really got to that part of "religion and state" during our Bible study.

Yes, I do agree that we can never really put our trust in worldly leaders, however Christ did always make a point of telling us to "give to Caesar what is Caesars" and follow authorities. I agree that God does use worldy leaders in His Great Plan.

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