HOMOSAPIENS AWAKE
Sunday, 19. August 2007, 23:23:36
In this blog I am going to talk about the caste system in India in detail and provide some knowledge about the caste systems that exist in some other countries in the world.I want to make it clear that my intention is not to defame any culture.I think that each culture in the world is not 100% bad, but the fact that each culture has some shortcomings can't be neglected.It's time to wake up.The sooner these shotrtcomings are abolished the better.The objective of this blog is to reveal the severe conceqences of the caste system so that it can be abolished for the betterment of the countries where the gross caste system exists.I think that each culture in the world could be more beautiful and acceptable only if its shortcomings are abolished.I have discussed about the caste system through the following three main points:Recent News about the caste system,United Nation's and Human Rights Watch's Rports on the caste system and scientific reserch about the concept of human race.
(1)News:<1>
Atrocitynews.com
:it's said that media is one of the main pillars of a democracy.But major Indian media constantly ignores the atrocities inflicted on millions of people in India in the name of caste.The atrocitynews.com site is created to give the world updated news about the atrocities people face in the name of caste in India. <2>
Countercurrents.org
:this site will also keep you updated about the grim effects of the perverted caste system in India. <3>
Intercaste Marriages:
So called intercast marriages are extra-judicially punished by acts of public lynching,murder,beatings and other sanctions against the couples and their relatives.In a village in the Orrissa state a family is denied access to wells and shops just bcoz their daughter did a so called intercaste marriage.You can read the news by clicking
here
.In the capital of India,
Delhi
,a young man was murdered for doing so called intercaste marrige.The real psyche of the people who say that they have friends from all castes is revealed when they are asked the qustions about the issue of so called intercaste marriages.(*)The news above proves that perverted casteism is followed in India in the cities also.The unity of the whole nation has always been weak because of the grim caste system. <4>
Devdasi
:in this gross system prepubescent so called low caste girls are married to a deity or a temple and used by so called upper caste priests and villagers and eventually auctioned to an urban brothel.When the raping of so called low caste women and the gross systems like Devdasi are seen vis-à-vis the issue of so called intercaste marriages the hypocricy of the caste system is clearly revealed. Please read the posts reports and science also by clicking on the links which are given for reference.
Atrocitynews.com
:it's said that media is one of the main pillars of a democracy.But major Indian media constantly ignores the atrocities inflicted on millions of people in India in the name of caste.The atrocitynews.com site is created to give the world updated news about the atrocities people face in the name of caste in India. <2>
Countercurrents.org
:this site will also keep you updated about the grim effects of the perverted caste system in India. <3>
Intercaste Marriages:
So called intercast marriages are extra-judicially punished by acts of public lynching,murder,beatings and other sanctions against the couples and their relatives.In a village in the Orrissa state a family is denied access to wells and shops just bcoz their daughter did a so called intercaste marriage.You can read the news by clicking
here
.In the capital of India,
Delhi
,a young man was murdered for doing so called intercaste marrige.The real psyche of the people who say that they have friends from all castes is revealed when they are asked the qustions about the issue of so called intercaste marriages.(*)The news above proves that perverted casteism is followed in India in the cities also.The unity of the whole nation has always been weak because of the grim caste system. <4>
Devdasi
:in this gross system prepubescent so called low caste girls are married to a deity or a temple and used by so called upper caste priests and villagers and eventually auctioned to an urban brothel.When the raping of so called low caste women and the gross systems like Devdasi are seen vis-à-vis the issue of so called intercaste marriages the hypocricy of the caste system is clearly revealed. Please read the posts reports and science also by clicking on the links which are given for reference.
we have similar oppressions here in the u.s., but it is not condoned and is stamped out wherever it appears.the problem is selfish bigots who think the world should be their own private place.
i am very sorry that the brahmin caste and khsyatria caste (spelling probably wrong) are so in favor of the status quo.
didn't anyone change their views after ghandiji's admonitions? how can people be so dense mentally to take advantage of a family just because they have a different understanding of how to live?
these negative prejudices are conditioned by real parents. without the imitation of father and mother's negativity, it wouldn't exist.
By I_ArtMan, # 20. August 2007, 22:44:06
Mahatma Jyotirao Phule
and
Dr.Ambedkar
were more focused on the social refom movment(plz click the link for details>.Jyotirao Phule was against the caste system and the tradition of not giving education to women.Dr.Ambedkar was the most prominant so called low caste leader who strived against the caste system.Women got the right to education thanks to Jyotirao Phule.Unfortunately for India the caste system is yet to be abolished.
By KYren, # 21. August 2007, 20:33:01
2. To assign to a particular class or category; classify. See Synonyms at commit.
3. To refer or assign (a matter or task, for example) for decision or action.
4. To send to a place of exile; banish.
what i thought was that there may not be a concrete enough plan of action. the caste system is not eradicated just because some people wish it.
that was the wrong word to use.
the banishment of the caste system through the courts is not enough. although of course legislation is necessary. it will become custom eventually. but meanwhile, people are let go, because the law is unpopular with the power elite. the cops brush it off. they are reluctant to punish people for doing what they themselves approve of. that's why the world still has genocide.
now i feel i have even confused myself more than before.
simplify... educate the young with fables. fables touch the hearts of the young.
don't expect people to change in this generation. it will take time to eradicate caste thinking. it takes a village. right ideas and principles of good social behavior do evolve but not without strenuous champions who set examples and fight for an equal birthright for each and every human being.
there... that's better.
By I_ArtMan, # 21. August 2007, 21:24:25
DHARAMSALA, India
These are times when destructive emotions like anger, fear and hatred are giving rise to devastating problems throughout the world. While the daily news offers grim reminders of the destructive power of such emotions, the question we must ask is this: What can we do, person by person, to overcome them? Of course such disturbing emotions have always been part of the human condition. Some - those who tend to believe nothing will "cure" our impulses to hate or oppress one another - might say that this is simply the price of being human. But this view can create apathy in the face of destructive emotions, leading us to conclude that destructiveness is beyond our control. I believe that there are practical ways for us as individuals to curb our dangerous impulses - impulses that collectively can lead to war and mass violence. As evidence I have not only my spiritual practice and the understanding of human existence based on Buddhist teachings, but now also the work of scientists
. For the last 15 years I have engaged in a series of conversations with Western scientists. We have exchanged views on topics ranging from quantum physics and cosmology to compassion and destructive emotions. I have found that while scientific findings offer a deeper understanding of such fields as cosmology, it seems that Buddhist explanations - particularly in the cognitive, biological and brain sciences - can sometimes give Western-trained scientists a new way to look at their own fields. It may seem odd that a religious leader is so involved with science, but Buddhist teachings stress the importance of understanding reality, and so we should pay attention to what scientists have learned about our world through experimentation and measurement.
Similarly, Buddhists have a 2,500-year history of investigating the workings of the mind. Over the millenniums, many practitioners have carried out what we might call "experiments" in how to overcome our tendencies toward destructive emotions. I have been encouraging scientists to examine advanced Tibetan spiritual practitioners, to see what benefits these practices might have for others, outside the religious context. The goal here is to increase our understanding of the world of the mind, of consciousness, and of our emotions. It is for this reason that I visited the neuroscience laboratory of Dr. Richard Davidson at the University of Wisconsin. Using imaging devices that show what occurs in the brain during meditation, Dr. Davidson has been able to study the effects of Buddhist practices for cultivating compassion, equanimity or mindfulness.
For centuries Buddhists have believed that pursuing such practices seems to make people calmer, happier and more loving. At the same time they are less and less prone to destructive emotions. According to Dr. Davidson, there is now science to underscore this belief. Dr. Davidson tells me that the emergence of positive emotions may be due to this: Mindfulness meditation strengthens the neurological circuits that calm a part of the brain that acts as a trigger for fear and anger. This raises the possibility that we have a way to create a kind of buffer between the brain's violent impulses and our actions. Experiments have already been carried out that show some practitioners can achieve a state of inner peace, even when facing extremely disturbing circumstances. Dr. Paul Ekman of the University of California at San Francisco told me that jarring noises (one as loud as a gunshot) failed to startle the Buddhist monk he was testing. Dr. Ekman said he had never seen anyone stay so calm in the presence of such a disturbance.
Another monk, the abbot of one of our monasteries in India, was tested by Dr. Davidson using electroencephalographs to measure brain waves. According to Dr. Davidson, the abbot had the highest amount of activity in the brain centers associated with positive emotions that had ever been measured by his laboratory. Of course, the benefits of these practices are not just for monks who spend months at a time in meditation retreat. Dr. Davidson told me about his research with people working in highly stressful jobs. These people - non-Buddhists - were taught mindfulness, a state of alertness in which the mind does not get caught up in thoughts or sensations, but lets them come and go, much like watching a river flow by.
After eight weeks, Dr. Davidson found that in these people, the parts of their brains that help to form positive emotions became increasingly active. The implications of all this are clear: the world today needs citizens and leaders who can work toward ensuring stability and engage in dialogue with the "enemy" - no matter what kind of aggression or assault they may have endured. It's worth noting that these methods are not just useful, but inexpensive. You don't need a drug or an injection. You don't have to become a Buddhist, or adopt any particular religious faith. Everybody has the potential to lead a peaceful, meaningful life. We must explore as far as we can how that can be brought about.
I try to put these methods into effect in my own life. When I hear bad news, especially the tragic stories I often hear from my fellow Tibetans, naturally my own response is sadness. However, by placing it in context, I find I can cope reasonably well. And feelings of helpless anger, which simply poison the mind and embitter the heart, seldom arise, even following the worst news. But reflection shows that in our lives much of our suffering is caused not by external causes but by such internal events as the arising of disturbing emotions.
The best antidote to this disruption is enhancing our ability to handle these emotions. If humanity is to survive, happiness and inner balance are crucial. Otherwise the lives of our children and their children are more likely to be unhappy, desperate and short. Material development certainly contributes to happiness - to some extent - and a comfortable way of life. But this is not sufficient. To achieve a deeper level of happiness we cannot neglect our inner development. The calamity of 9/11 demonstrated that modern technology and human intelligence guided by hatred can lead to immense destruction. Such terrible acts are a violent symptom of an afflicted mental state.
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To respond wisely and effectively, we need to be guided by more healthy states of mind, not just to avoid feeding the flames of hatred, but to respond skillfully. We would do well to remember that the war against hatred and terror can be waged on this, the internal front, too.
Tenzin Gyatso is the 14th Dalai Lama.
By I_ArtMan, # 21. August 2007, 21:37:06
my question... what shock will bring more of us to the front. i firmly believe that the golden age will arrive when the collective voice of the majority of the people will become electric.
By I_ArtMan, # 22. August 2007, 04:01:14
By shigen, # 22. August 2007, 11:49:10
By KYren, # 22. August 2007, 15:13:41
By KYren, # 22. August 2007, 15:35:04
I understand there are powerful rigid Hindu political parties and lobbies who keep and enforce the system. Ethnic tensions exist in every society and false practices exist in every society (the act of dowry where the girl has to pay is also sadly instituted in Pakistan and other Muslims countries, though like India, their governments hv legislated against it-at least I think they hv). But this problem in India was known for so long it surprisingly hasn't been reduced. And ur right, So many media outlets in India hv sprung, but they've focused more on corruption scandals than societal ills. I think this has to do with Hindu lobbyists and their support.
Hinduism used to be free flowing religion but now rigid rules force so called lower castes to worship certain temples or deities and aren't allowed to at others. This is wht my buddy used to find absurd...'if we believe in a Bhagwan(an all supreme God-over the others), then why r we being forced to go thru different channels(dieties)?'
Now not to attack on ur religion Kiranut, but there's this Sahi Baba dude in Uttar Pradesh who's sprung up and claims to be God. All the young Indians I know don't believe him but their parents here are into him. I saw an entire BBC report abt him and came to the conclusion this man was as political as every1 else and a fraud. But strangely enuff he was protected by parliament as many members litereally 'believed' he was god. When u've got elected premiers with such beliefs where will the progress head...the young enterpreneurs of India can do only so much.
Anyways I've rambled on here. Thank u for sharing more indepth analysis in this. It really bugs me tht depite India's strong economic growing, the poor are being left behind. Caste,Dowry and Female Feutocide are still prevailing and it frustrates me (these cases r too in Pakistan, but at a much lower scale.). Here's hoping for the best.
By ss_ali, # 22. August 2007, 17:17:26
By KYren, # 22. August 2007, 22:29:04
"I think it's up to the future generations to make the world a united and peaceful place by upholding the scientific truth that there is only one true caste,creed,race of all humankind i.e. Homo sapien."
Absolutely well said.
By ss_ali, # 23. August 2007, 00:58:36
By shigen, # 26. August 2007, 21:48:57
Check out the BBC link...inspiring story...
By ss_ali, # 27. August 2007, 00:40:20
By KYren, # 27. August 2007, 08:07:34
For us it sounded equivalent to the slavery industry 200 years ago.
Of course I agree with your opinions on this matter. Humans are equal - not in financial possibilities, which they probably should be, but that´s another discussion - when it comes to dignity and the right to persue one´s happiness. As far as I can see, the caste system violates this right.
The sooner we will succeed in eliminating this inhumane system, the better.
By ricewood, # 28. August 2007, 13:33:34
By allangie, # 9. September 2007, 21:30:29
By KYren, # 10. September 2007, 19:44:56
By sukku, # 11. September 2007, 11:40:27
By KYren, # 13. September 2007, 15:57:21
By sukku, # 13. September 2007, 16:01:24
my happiest memories are of digging ditches, picking apples, washing dishes. you only promulgate the caste system when you denigrate the jobs we need to do.
By I_ArtMan, # 18. September 2007, 00:44:08
By sukku, # 18. September 2007, 02:22:19
By KYren, # 18. September 2007, 03:10:42
It's kind of like the bad blood that runs in families...repentance is what brings about change.
By intothedeep, # 22. September 2007, 03:24:49
By KYren, # 24. September 2007, 21:27:25
All I have to say is that my mind is with you. I'm glad I visited your blog, hope to read more stories from you.
By ClassicAutumn, # 2. October 2007, 19:43:42
By KYren, # 3. October 2007, 19:18:29
By blcktear !, # 11. October 2007, 10:38:44
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By sukku, # 11. October 2007, 10:56:46
blktear-would u please elaborate ur second comment.
By KYren, # 11. October 2007, 11:09:31
By blcktear !, # 11. October 2007, 14:39:07
These casteist thoughts are propogated using God's name.Real God must've damnd those who created castesystem and unjustly inflict atrocities on other humanbeings for centuries.
By KYren, # 12. October 2007, 03:03:22
Please, if there is anything I can do to help (any activities, online demonstrations, or even something that could make use of my computer skills), e-mail me(mjakobite@yahoo.com) and I will do my best to help.
By Leo_the_One, # 15. October 2007, 13:40:25
By sukku, # 15. October 2007, 13:42:50
By allangie, # 15. October 2007, 13:56:56
By sukku, # 15. October 2007, 14:01:07
OK, I was thinking that no healtcare for all Americans was bad...And it is in its own right... Also paying taxes and not seeing any good results you pay for... Like the US foreign policy... I do not like that we are seen as the dickwads of the world... And that is all issues in their own right...
But THIS... This caste system... This castesystem thing... is Horrid...
I have deep respect for all nations and all people of the world... And well count me in to post my support on my blog also for you. I can not even imagine this being possible... Yet you a very kind person stepped up to the plate and is speaking about such issues... And like you say it is not improving anything at all... Well only for the black hearted greedy people... O,o
I know those types also... One is named BUSH... Ooops did I say that outloud? And it seems he has family in other parts of the world... O,o Ugh...
I am going to look up more about this... As I really know nothing about it... Other than here... O,o And well... As a fellow human being... going way beyoned our backgrounds and race... I love you in the respect that if you are in need of some help... Guess what... I will help you as long as what we are doing is helping more people and stopping ignorance like... this castesystem stuff... O,o OH... Now I am getting fired up again...
I am marking this sote for me to watch as I would like to keep up on your progress and also learn more. And while I can only post about it... I will offer my insight as best I can.
Your friend,
Kite
By Kite Geek, # 16. November 2007, 23:26:03
Pisted by:
Kiranut1,
Thank you Saf for your valuable comments.I think criticizing and abolishig some bad aspects of any religion shouldn't be called an 'attack'.Because any religion can be made more beautiful,sustainable and acceptable only by abolishing its bad aspects.These bad aspects are like a Trojan Horse in religions that makes people atheists.I hope the young generations really mean it when they say they abhor the caste system,their actions only will show that they really mean it.I think it's up to the future generations to make the world a united and peaceful place by upholding the scientific truth that there is only one true caste,creed,race of all humankind i.e. Homo sapien.
YOU and I share this same idea.
No really I have this Their is ONLY ONE RACE... The Human Race... Thinking... Where with knowledge, being open, thinking of the WIN - WIN way to reach goals... And such... Will end up well in the same place you are talking about...
A world better for not me, mt you... Not any of us alone... But the best possible world for all of us.
It will not be a Utopia for sure... But do we not learn that for the past forever... Wars failed... Hate failed, Anger failed, revenge faied, all ways to harm, kill and cheat people out of life, property, what ever.... to make a point... Any point... Has failed.
The one thing we fail to really commit to trying is COMMUNICATIONS in a open fashion in a manner that is out for the WIN/WIN for all involved.
All being ALL of the Human Race... Not just one person... Not a party of one country to represent the worlds people... No it is time the people of the world wake up and start making those changes happen... Little by little... Posting like this HELPS...
We are now UNTIED my friend. All of us who feel the things to harm and bring down people in the name of greed... Self interest... Anything like that is wrong. No one deserves to live like that.
Not the amazing beautiful people in India... Not anyone enyplace on Earth... Once the human race is gone... That is it... It is over and done with. Why must we work so hard to end the human race?
Why not work as hard or harder to save it and protect it... And make it better? Why? Because the few that run things had been given power by the many... Who then get taken advantage of by the few... Who feel their needs... Their desires alone are worth more than all the life on Earth... That is why.
And it is not just in India... It is all over the place.. Not just in America... Not just in religions (areas that should not be their)
The higher power (god) if you will does not wish anyone death... Just to learn to accept each other for who and what we each are... If we do this... Then we can move on as the human race to really make something good of this planet...
Look around... See any other places we can move to once we blow up Earth? If you know of any please tell me that it is not a trillion light years away.... That would make me so sad...
But we can not just pack up and say lets blow up another world... It is not that easy... Once we kill all the humans... Their will be no more. No more ever. Doesn't that make you all warm and fuzzy inside?
All this bulding, all these cures for ills... And works that great minds have done... To make the world a better place not just for them... Nor for me alone... For all of us.
You mean we just allow all that effort... Humane love... And all go to waste? Not me.
I am not saying this to make the US look better... Or any people of it look better... I say this blind to all that...
I say this because instead of HATE like I was trained to do by my dad... Hate EVERYTHING HATE EVERYONE... Not like me...
I have always choosen to LOVE everyone as human beings first above all else. And then from that time on... People are just people to me.
So what you have a different look than me. So what if I need to learn to ask how to say words you know in your native language... I happen to love learning. So I do not mind my ignorant ways... I admit them... I step up to change them... And I put to practice what I speak of.
My friends I did not mean to go on like this...
But I also happen to be a very, very deeply concerned person... With endless passion... Compassion and willingness to understand ANY and all sides of things so that one goal is reached...
WIN-WIN and even in high school I was FAILED out in our depates class because I refused to give up trying to find the WIN-WIN in EVERY argument anyone places in front of me.. Any issue... I could find it.
They did not want that... They wanted me on this or that side... That would mean... One side wins... Ones side pays the price... I do not think it is so hard to just go a little more... And put the effort needed to find the WIN for both sides... In fact...
When I was told it is IMPOSSIBLE to do that... I looked up the meaining if the word impossible... And the entire menaing was just lost on me.
NOTHING I mean nothing the human race faces that we created such as issues... Arguments... Is ever really impossible... It is just easier for the lazy people to have their ways faster of we give in to the WIN/LOST way of thinking and doing things...
The human race has done JUST that from the start of the human race.. Until today... FEW people, great people and many from India, and other parts of the world I adore... And admire... Have stepped right up...
STOP THE IGNORANCE... Please... And lets communicate... After all we have these big brains... for something more than war... hate... anger... and such... But the easy thing to do... is just accept the status quoe (sp).
Pheww.... I need to rest up now... LOL between my pain I am in and being all worked up over the wrongs faced all over... And in India... I am just ready to get posting tomarrow about what I find out on this all...
Kite
By Kite Geek, # 16. November 2007, 23:53:42
I just want the world at large to know the caste system spoils the lives of millions of people even today.And the gross cosequences of the caste system are tried to hide from the world by the casteists.It will take a revolution,it needn't be a violent revolution but the revolution of awareness to abolish caste system.It's wise for every country and the world to realize the importance of unity.
Recent studies in the genetics have concluded that all humans today have single origin.That's why I say that there's only one true caste,creed,race of all humankind in the world and we are all homosapiens.I'm ridiculed for saying this but it is evident by the human history that emphasis on the literal meanings of the words caste,creed,race in terms of humanbeings has been disasterous to millions of homosapiens.
By KYren, # 17. November 2007, 00:46:13
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When my children were at the new born Hospital nursery area, they were next to Black/White/Chinese /Poor/Rich/Pretty/not so pretty new born humans.I was looking at them from the window and I was making a secret wish that they will stay equal and accepted.Now they are teens and their ideas of wonder it is in the peak,I can only try as a parent to keep them open minded....We change in life as much as we allow it.. Lets work all together to make this change a positive one!
and for the Holidays to all who believe in equality:
Happy Holidays, and
may your new year be touched with sunshine,
your heart overflow with love,
and your soul sing with hope.
May everything in your life sparkle
with a radiance that
comes only from happiness.
Best Regards,
Angeliki
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