Pro Bono: What they say it means; what others say it means; Lawyers thoughts? Experiences?
Monday, October 8, 2007 11:11:23 AM
"Pro bono publico (often shortened to pro bono) is a phrase derived from Latin meaning "for the public good." The term is sometimes used to describe professional work undertaken voluntarily and without payment, as a public service. It is common in the legal profession and is increasingly seen in marketing, technology and strategy consulting firms. Unlike traditional volunteerism, pro bono service leverages the specific skills of professionals to provide services to those who are unable to afford them."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_bono
Do long stories, even "well written long stories" work to inspire insightful comment? IME i would say mostly not. i have reasons why i think this is so.
There is a few LAW websites that i have posted on and asked both legal questions as well as hypothetical questions. More often than not i get back "lawyer speak" which can be either good or bad but is mostly blah blah blah...if you're job is to discover evidence and examine it to prepare for the best aces possible then your answer may discribe you better than your resume'.
One of the wisest quips that i've ever heard about "Pro Bono" was this: " Didn't you know in latin 'Pro Bono' means: "The Bottom of the Pile". And as sad and funny as that was for me to hear it rang true for me and added fuel to the already raging fire that burns strongly inside of me...Did anyone see the 60 Minute interview last night with Bruce Springsteen? Something he said about Americans losing what makes this country great also struck a cord in me...as i've said many times lately in many situations: This world is changing fast but not in ways that we can be proud of and in fact in ways that require "The Public" for which it stands to STAND UP and say so in words as loud and passionate as a Bruce Springsteen concert.
The weapons of mass destruction are right under the nose of those looking for them; complicity amongst other things.
It's easy to see myself getting off the subject with far out comments and statements that might at first seem unrelated. How can i be speaking about WMD's when the subject is "Pro Bono"? Well it probably has more to do with the notion that WMD's have to be bombs, chemicals, or bio ( bugs and virus's ) but i think inorder to see them they must be identified with words.
Post for now and see about later...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_bono
Do long stories, even "well written long stories" work to inspire insightful comment? IME i would say mostly not. i have reasons why i think this is so.
There is a few LAW websites that i have posted on and asked both legal questions as well as hypothetical questions. More often than not i get back "lawyer speak" which can be either good or bad but is mostly blah blah blah...if you're job is to discover evidence and examine it to prepare for the best aces possible then your answer may discribe you better than your resume'.
One of the wisest quips that i've ever heard about "Pro Bono" was this: " Didn't you know in latin 'Pro Bono' means: "The Bottom of the Pile". And as sad and funny as that was for me to hear it rang true for me and added fuel to the already raging fire that burns strongly inside of me...Did anyone see the 60 Minute interview last night with Bruce Springsteen? Something he said about Americans losing what makes this country great also struck a cord in me...as i've said many times lately in many situations: This world is changing fast but not in ways that we can be proud of and in fact in ways that require "The Public" for which it stands to STAND UP and say so in words as loud and passionate as a Bruce Springsteen concert.
The weapons of mass destruction are right under the nose of those looking for them; complicity amongst other things.
It's easy to see myself getting off the subject with far out comments and statements that might at first seem unrelated. How can i be speaking about WMD's when the subject is "Pro Bono"? Well it probably has more to do with the notion that WMD's have to be bombs, chemicals, or bio ( bugs and virus's ) but i think inorder to see them they must be identified with words.
Post for now and see about later...







Skullshotsskullshots # Tuesday, October 9, 2007 2:59:55 PM
I am still mad as hell and endeavoring to stay as sober mentally as possible regarding how we got attacked on 9-11. I don't like anyone attacking my country, my neighborhood, home, my family or me.
With the coming elections I just pray whoever we have as President doesn't outright sell us out completely to "the other side."
Well, I didn't expect this response to last this long but decided to keep writing.
KimberlySqueakeyCat # Tuesday, October 9, 2007 7:19:29 PM
Skullshotsskullshots # Tuesday, October 9, 2007 7:50:27 PM
Sure, it is not perfect. It has lots of problems internally and externally, but damn, what a place to live.
KimberlySqueakeyCat # Tuesday, October 9, 2007 10:04:22 PM
Skullshotsskullshots # Tuesday, October 9, 2007 10:45:53 PM
Write on . . .
KryptoniteKrypto # Wednesday, October 10, 2007 11:37:32 AM
When i served it was popular for the anti-war movement to hear: "America, love it or leave it"! Soon a new slogan arose that made more sense to me and many others: " America, love it and change it " Obviously they were referring to politics and policies.
It is essential to know what the difference is. In my humble opinion i am not sure who knows what including those in power who speak "politico" and they never have an interpreter at these debates to tell " the people " what the X they are telling us and furthermore what they mean by it ( what they are saying ) Like a lawyer said to me yesterday: " It is unfortunate that the laws of this country are not written for lay people. That is why it is important to get a lawyer "
So i suppose this ties in nicely to the spirit of my post which i thank both of you for your spirited opinions and discussion!!!
Why are "we the people" put into a position to need an interpreter to understand "the law" which IS THE BOTTOM LINE when it comes to our "FREEDOM"??? The law creates and allows us to do and to be free to do what the constitution allows us to say and or do. If you are found to be guilty of drawing outside the box the law says you can be charged with a crime and be punished even if the law is old and dated and don't apply anymore.
Allow me to give one example. Back in the 60's when people really organized protests hippies gathered on the green in DC and the park police and other organized authorities were looking for ways to arrest and in effect deter people from gathering there and protesting "the war" that was never declared. Many hippies passed the time flying kites. Some of the kites had peace signs on them. Some one in power looked hard, spent time and our money searching for ways to "bust" these anti-american bastards. He found a law written around the time of the Wright brothers first flight. A law was written, voted on, and passed that stated in essence that nothing could fly lower than x amount of feet in the DC area. So many people were busted under this law and probably have records now after being prosecuted for breaking the law. We all can understand why the law was written and with 911 as an example of what they feared the most ( mostly by way of accident rather than planned attack ) i'm not suggesting to remove the law but how about amending it; changing it to be more specific to the times?
Love it or leave it! or Love it and change it! Which is the better option?
One more thought on this subject that may take this discussion to a new level. If the laws of a "democracy" allow for changes in law, then it seems to me that if the majority of voters were of another mind-set it is possible that the laws of the land can change to something VERY DIFFERENT than what we grew up with...laws and protections that we assumed would last forever...it was a beautiful thing; the thing that made the USA the best place on earth! But as Springsteen said in his interview: the changes that are happening as i write and mostly as the original Americans sleep walk through life and sit home on election day and let other decide what will be, are the changes that "we the people" should be protesting at risk of changing into something we really don't want? Are we making sure that we are heard and that those people who are running for office know what it is that we want and what it is that we don't want???
Back to "Who are you"? Notice how few answer that question. It make me wonder why...is the question too vague or too personal, or maybe just too rhetorical?
http://www.answers.com/rhetorical
Maybe we need a new post with a different subject. If someone reads "Pro bono" they may have no interest in the subject. If they don't look deeper and read what is being said then they too are unaware of the shift that has occured. Could be a metaphor of what is happening to our country.
i know; sometimes i ramble on.....
Skullshotsskullshots # Wednesday, October 10, 2007 1:48:52 PM
KryptoniteKrypto # Thursday, October 11, 2007 12:22:37 PM
Your skull and cross bones apply well! ;-)
KimberlySqueakeyCat # Thursday, October 11, 2007 5:31:11 PM
i live in michigan. as for the "doors" that will be closing, they are the "state government" doors.
we r more than $1 billion in the red, and they have recently started cutting everything they can. they have cut our food stamps again. they have also decided to try to start taxing food. if they tax the food, then our food stamps are no good, as we can't buy taxed items on food stamps.
the more they cut the less we r able to feed ourselves and clothe ourselves and live in our housing that we have
idk how much more CUTS this state can stand
Skullshotsskullshots # Thursday, October 11, 2007 5:54:13 PM
KimberlySqueakeyCat # Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:48:40 PM
musebarefoot_muse # Thursday, November 8, 2007 5:08:30 PM
KryptoniteKrypto # Friday, November 9, 2007 1:03:12 PM
As time marches on, the thought crossed my mind recently: i wonder if a public score card might make people more responsible?
But in this day and age where "any news is good news" ( the hollywood girls who are always in the news for what at one time would have been considered 'bad press' now seem to love it )
Who is to blame? And, BTW, i think "blame" is a perfectly fitting word that has also taken on a new meaning so it's hard to say what you mean.
( "you" meaning "one", anyone, everyone.... )
Thanks for contributing your thoughts.
Krypto
KimberlySqueakeyCat # Sunday, November 11, 2007 7:19:26 PM