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Fringe, season 1

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"How long has he been dead?"
"Five hours."
"Question him."



This show was exactly as I expected: Well-made, intricate, cursed with an overabundance of standalone episodes, containing some quite interesting characters, and based on a main plot and premise that is unable to escape the feeling of "haven't I seen this ten times before?" Fringe is another attempt - this one by Lost's J. J. Abrams and two guys who used to work on Hercules and Xena - at the age old "let's do the sci-fi show as a cop-show as well, that'll make it more mainstream"-shtick that's been floating around since The X-files, and as such attempts to, it's pretty well done. That is, though, not saying too much.

To not focus on all the negative right away, I should mention that I absolutely love two of the characters; the brilliant but confused Dr. Walter Bishop and his prodigal jack-of-all-trades son Peter, who between them probably have an IQ higher than Lex Luthor. John Noble and Joshua Jackson bring these awesomely entertaining characters and their complex relationship with each other out and alive in quite impressive performances. They are lucky, though, as their characters are both well thought-out and well written. Some kudos should thus also be given to the three actors rounding out the main cast (Lance Reddick, Kirk Acevedo and Anna Torv), including the main character Olivia Dunham, because they at times actually seem interesting in spite of the writing passing them off as cliches and dreadful bores.

As I seem to have stumbled into the negative again, why don't we look at the structure of the show? Fringe's main problem in my eyes is its slow-paced standalone episode set up. While I understand the need for attracting new viewers through this formula, they endanger themselves of losing old ones. I know several people who stopped three or four episodes in, and had I myself not been a student with a summer vacation to fill, I probably would not have finished this show either. The only season plot of any real interest - predictably enough closely tied to both the Bishop's - was dreadfully apparent after only four episodes, and the hints just kept on flowing. Now, I'm all for foreshadowing, but when the summer finale's big reveal is the same plot-twist I figured out before Christmas, they're not doing it right. It's a very good plot-twist, having vast potential both for emotional character-stuff, and further plot-progression, and it should not have been wasted by spreading it out so slowly that by the time it happened, there was no shock-factor at all left.

The show's science-stuff is very variable. I'm a humanities type of guy, so when I spot obvious scientific impossibilities in the mumbo-jumbo they have Dr. Bishop spew out, that means they are too far-fetched. If you're going to explain everything with pseudo-science, honestly, you need better explanations than what Fringe often offers. However, sometimes it is not too obvious that their theories are all complete ridiculous bullshit, and those times, the show works splendidly - though it is still laughably ridiculous that anyone, regardless of intelligence, would have vast experience in as many thoroughly different fields as Walter Bishop repeatedly demonstrates. I can overlook that, though, in the interest of storytelling convenience. (Also, it makes Walter even more awesome).

All in all, Fringe is a well-made cop-show with a conspiracy-theory standing in for a main plot and science-fiction with a touch of explicit horror scenes standing in for regular criminals. If this sounds interesting, the show's definitely for you. If it doesn't - if, indeed, it sounds unoriginal and trite to the point of yawning, like it does to me - you might want to steer away but for one thing. It's main redeeming feature - and it is indeed very redeeming - is the dialogue, performance and dynamic of the two Bishop-characters, which consistently offers both emotion, drama and humour of high quality. And, by the end of the show, to a less extent the main character Dunham as well, who in all fairness did get some decent character development throughout. I will check out season 2, but unless it improves strongly, this is one show I will not be too sad to have to let go once I'm no longer a full-time student with scores of sparetime.

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Comments

Unregistered user Friday, July 3, 2009 6:12:09 PM

Robert Kuang writes: Haha, we DO disagree on Fringe. I'm not sure if Fringe will be much different in season 2, unless they dramatically alter the storyline. Given the season 1 finale that's very well possible. Overall, I don't find any of the annoyances you find. For some reason, I'm able to disconnect myself from the science impossibilities, and my favorite character is Olivia. I am attracted to her competence, although Walter is badass. I'm sure all the ideas have been done before, but sci-fi often steps over old ideas (the only recent exception is Lost with its Egyptian stuff) and its the way its produced, executed and written that makes it interesting. Oh well, here's to hoping season 2 interests you :P

Georgius the PeasantLoki Aesir Friday, July 3, 2009 6:17:30 PM

I think season 2 has potential, because 1's main problem is not it's unoriginal premise or plot (the execution is more than good enough to warrant a new take on it), it's the slow pacing. Now that they've got people traveling to other dimensions all over the place, going back to a "freak crime of the week"-set-up could be a challenge. And if they avoid that, logically, the show would veer more in a direction I'd like, where the focus is on the mythology and the season plot, and these are allowed to develop at a pace where you don't see every major twist coming ten episodes in advance.

Of course, they could deal with all this in the season premiere and go back to being the exact same show as before. I'm hoping not, though. As I said, the production is really, really good, and many of the characters have vast potential. It's the ideas and some of the plots that to me feel obvious, unoriginal and, at times, outright boring.

Amrasananas Saturday, July 4, 2009 10:48:25 PM

Just wanted to post a little comment saying that I'm still reading these things p

I only watched half of ep 1 of Fringe, so I can't say much about it. What I saw, I thought was veeery boring, and the characters you mention liking (the father/son deal) just struck me as incredibly cliched. Seems like I did the right thing in not trotting through it.

Will check out that Brotherhood thing though. That one sounded like more my style.

Georgius the PeasantLoki Aesir Saturday, July 4, 2009 11:32:32 PM

Thanks for still reading, dude!

Brotherhood is immensely more your style. As, frankly, is it mine, despite the lack of sci-fi or fantasy in it. Still unsure how you'll actually feel about it, though, as I would have assumed The Wire to be your style as well, and we all remember how that went.

Fringe's strongest card by far is the Bishops, and if you didn't like them in the pilot, you wouldn't later either. More of the same, and the only real reason I stuck with the show. If you couldn't even grow a liking to that bit of it, steering way clear of Fringe was probably a very smart call.

Amrasananas Sunday, July 5, 2009 10:18:44 PM

I'm probably biased. I remember the youngest Bishop-guy from when my sister watched Dawson's Creek (*shudder*), which I sometimes had to watch because we only had one TV & the internet was as slow as a glacier melting. And man, I really hated watching Dawson's Creek.

Georgius the PeasantLoki Aesir Sunday, July 5, 2009 10:25:59 PM

Ah. Well, I really like the actor and the character both. The only season plot of any interest centres on him (as a pawn, though, not as a player), though it was sadly overly often hinted at throughout so that by the time the big reveal came in the season finale, I'd Known For Sure for a half-dozen episodes and Suspected Strongly since four episodes in. But still, the plot when viewed on content - and even presentation, pacing aside - was pretty good.

But again, that alone is not really quite enough to warrant watching the show, your time is much better spent elsewhere, I'm sure.

Terje "Smith"TheTerje Tuesday, July 7, 2009 8:33:43 PM

I watched the 9th episode of this show (the one with the hallucination butterflies) last night, as my sister showed up and had grown used to following the show.

My estimation, based on my extremely limited experience, is pretty much what you said, Loki: a show with some potential, but which needs to get away from the monster-of-the-week concept. I thought what hints of an arc I saw seemed passingly interesting, and I liked the way the episode was nearly impossible to understand for someone who hadn't watched any of it before (I was lucky; I had my sister to ask and a review of the episode in SFX to consult as well).

However, I found the plot of the episode to fall flat on its belly, both in terms of pacing, action and general dramaturgy. They failed, I thought, to properly emphasise the various aspects of the investigation (such as it were), so that the important parts felt pretty much as the not-so-important parts. Then, of course, it's the part about having a psychic or whatever pretty much solve the crime on her own without much non-bureaucratic difference -- and even the bureaucratic differences felt like a breeze, as none of Dunham's superiors really seemed to question her gigantic and unfounded leaps in reasoning. In short, they could learn a lot from Medium.

Probably not a show I'll bother to add to my really exclusive watch list.

Georgius the PeasantLoki Aesir Tuesday, July 7, 2009 9:05:18 PM

"Probably not a show I'll bother to add to my really exclusive watch list."

Not at all. If you watch this before "The Wire" or even "Boston Legal", I might have to hurt you.

Terje "Smith"TheTerje Tuesday, July 7, 2009 9:34:16 PM

Not to mention before I finish the thrid season of Galactica, eh? p

(Oh dear. If my goal was to avoid being injured, I probably shouldn't have mentioned that I haven't finished BSG s4, should I?)

Georgius the PeasantLoki Aesir Wednesday, July 8, 2009 2:43:24 AM

BSG is an awesome show, but if you've started it, you've started it. I can't tell you what to prioritise and what to like among things you've actually tried. (I had forgotten you'd seen season 1 of The Wire) I thus only get agitated if you'd pick Fringe over another, vastly better show that you ALSO hadn't seen. wink

Amrasananas Wednesday, July 8, 2009 5:13:51 PM

OR KINGS.

Georgius the PeasantLoki Aesir Wednesday, July 8, 2009 5:19:21 PM

Yes, or Kings.

Terje "Smith"TheTerje Monday, July 13, 2009 12:42:18 PM

Whoa, I had totally forgotten all about Kings. Did that turn out to be as awesome as the premise promised?

Georgius the PeasantLoki Aesir Monday, July 13, 2009 3:05:51 PM

It did. Though I obviously can't warrant for the finale yet, I have no reason whatsoever to expect it to be anything short of Awesome.

If you finish only one show this year, alright, let it be The Wire or Deadwood. But if you finish one more after them, I'd put Kings right up there with Battlestar Galactica only slightly in front. And Kings is way, way shorter.

Terje "Smith"TheTerje Monday, July 13, 2009 4:20:54 PM

The Wire's definitely gonna be one of them. A bit more ambivalent towards Deadwood; I liked the first season just fine, but it failed to really grab hold of me. Kings, due to its unfortunate brevity, 'll slide in in front of BSG, methinks. But then I probably won't be able to postpone Battlestar for much longer, as I guess I'll have finish it some time, despite that it kinda stopped being fun somewhere in the middle of season 3... :|

Georgius the PeasantLoki Aesir Monday, July 13, 2009 5:04:24 PM

It starts being lots of fun again somewhere in the end of season 3, so that little setback doesn't last long. ^^

Georgius the PeasantLoki Aesir Monday, July 13, 2009 5:04:43 PM

And Deadwood is maybe, gun to my head, my favourite show of all time. I'm just saying.

Terje "Smith"TheTerje Monday, July 13, 2009 8:08:49 PM

Thanks for giving me hope in Battlestar again, Loki. And for giving me renewed interest in Deadwood. Suspect I might enjoy it more if I get my hands on a better quality download; it was hard enough to get what they were saying as it was, without the merely okay quality of the rip making it harder.

Georgius the PeasantLoki Aesir Monday, July 13, 2009 8:11:05 PM

Right, the awesome rustique dialogue is sometimes hard to understand. Sarah had a little trouble with it too, and she's basically a native speaker. My solution to that was buying the DVDs and putting the subtitles on. Of course, I would have bought them anyway, because the show's fucking awesome.

Amrasananas Monday, July 13, 2009 9:40:10 PM

"Of course, I would have bought them anyway, because the show's fucking awesome."

I second this statement.
And everything else that Loki says. Except that thing about BSG season 3, 'cause that season was just not up to snuff. But Season 4 is well worth the bother, methinks.

Georgius the PeasantLoki Aesir Tuesday, July 14, 2009 1:26:17 AM

Season 3's first five episodes or so are the best the show ever got, and in my opinion worth every second of the rest even if it had all been the same level of quality as the very worst season 3 had to offer later. Luckily, it isn't, but still, I love the beginning of s3 THAT much. So I absolutely do not agree season 3 wasn't up to snuff, the beginning alone warranted the entire show for me. That said, I also think it got stronger again near the end, like I said above, but sure, not to the same extent, and I agree that it probably wasn't quite worth the drag of getting there. Season 4, as you say, is though.

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