Orion Parachute Failure
Wednesday, September 3, 2008 1:51:21 AM
So after the Shuttle retires in a few months, Lockheed Martin and NASA/JPL want to replace it with the Orion craft, which was formerly known as the Crew Exploration Vehicle (CEV). Lockheed Martin is in charge of its development and construction, and when they went to test its parachutes a week ago, the test ended in disaster.

image from space.com
Luckily, the craft they were testing was not the actual Orion craft. And this is actually a good thing. It's a good thing they're catching these bugs now and not later, when manned testing is going on. If humans had been in that module, they would have been killed or severely injured. Mistakes are made during the testing stages so that they don't happen when people's lives are at stake.
The 'chutes are one of the most important features of the landing module, should NASA ever decide to send men to Mars. Without functional parachutes, it's impossible to slow the craft enough for a safe descent. HOWEVER, it is possible to lessen the necessity for a parachute system by adding an aerobrake to the CEV that will help it descend into Martian atmo. If the end result is going to be Mars, then aerobraking as described in Zubrin's plan Mars Direct, will be advantageous.
Parachutes and aerobraking won't work on the moon, however, where there is no atmosphere to speak of. NASA wants to stick men back on the moon by 2020, and it's about damn time we went back there. It's been nearly 40 years since Eugene Carnan climbed back up the ladder into the lunar landing module, taking with him the legacy of being the last human to set foor on the moon. It's time we went back there, and this time, there are more contestants in the race. I've heard rumours that the Chinese are going to try and get someone up there, and the Russians are at it again. The ESA even has a plan, the Aurora Programme. Maybe if we're lucky, another space race will start, this time to Mars.

image from space.com
Luckily, the craft they were testing was not the actual Orion craft. And this is actually a good thing. It's a good thing they're catching these bugs now and not later, when manned testing is going on. If humans had been in that module, they would have been killed or severely injured. Mistakes are made during the testing stages so that they don't happen when people's lives are at stake.
The 'chutes are one of the most important features of the landing module, should NASA ever decide to send men to Mars. Without functional parachutes, it's impossible to slow the craft enough for a safe descent. HOWEVER, it is possible to lessen the necessity for a parachute system by adding an aerobrake to the CEV that will help it descend into Martian atmo. If the end result is going to be Mars, then aerobraking as described in Zubrin's plan Mars Direct, will be advantageous.
Parachutes and aerobraking won't work on the moon, however, where there is no atmosphere to speak of. NASA wants to stick men back on the moon by 2020, and it's about damn time we went back there. It's been nearly 40 years since Eugene Carnan climbed back up the ladder into the lunar landing module, taking with him the legacy of being the last human to set foor on the moon. It's time we went back there, and this time, there are more contestants in the race. I've heard rumours that the Chinese are going to try and get someone up there, and the Russians are at it again. The ESA even has a plan, the Aurora Programme. Maybe if we're lucky, another space race will start, this time to Mars.









Richard Keelingmusickna # Friday, September 5, 2008 2:35:26 AM
I will be nice to see men (and women) back on the planets and satellites again. The next ones will be Chinese.
Lorelei Lee LongLoreleiLeeLong # Friday, September 5, 2008 1:38:51 PM
Richard Keelingmusickna # Friday, September 5, 2008 3:06:11 PM
H82typ # Saturday, September 6, 2008 12:06:31 AM
Lorelei Lee LongLoreleiLeeLong # Saturday, September 6, 2008 2:27:28 AM
H82typ # Tuesday, September 9, 2008 9:34:42 PM
Lorelei Lee LongLoreleiLeeLong # Wednesday, September 10, 2008 1:34:16 PM
Unregistered user # Friday, January 2, 2009 8:48:50 AM
H82typ # Friday, January 2, 2009 2:58:28 PM
Was this just a worst case scenario type of test?
Lorelei Lee LongLoreleiLeeLong # Saturday, January 24, 2009 8:04:41 PM
H82typ # Saturday, January 24, 2009 8:51:17 PM
Apart from the unfortunate loss of the Apollo One crew, we didn't start... losing people until the space shuttle incidents, both of which could have been avoided.
Are you familiar with the Hubble Space telescope? When it finally deployed and was live, it was discovered to have a myopic view of the universe. This was attributed to differences in specifications. NASA 'spun' it by saying the mirror was ground perfectly, but it was ground perfectly wrong.
*sorry, I do tend to get long winded...*
Where is the person to say, "This is my mistake", or have we the proverbial 'buck passing', not my job mentality that is rampant these days.
Lorelei Lee LongLoreleiLeeLong # Saturday, January 24, 2009 10:36:18 PM
Now that you mention it, I can't think of a chute failure that resulted in loss of life. Obviously in the 50s and 60s there were test failures. I know one of the problems involved the Saturn V's tendency to hop upon ignition. They solved that pogo-effect back then, but the data was lost when the schematics were destroyed. I just posted a new entry about the Jupiter Direct program, which is a new, alternate option to the Ares that a group of engineers put together.
I think one of the issues with this project is that the administrator of NASA refused to see anything wrong with his designs. He would brow-beat his scientists into announcing what he told them, which was that despite issues, the program was running smoothly. The scientists knew it was complete BS, but with the turn-over rate in the government I'm sure they didn't feel like they could speak up.
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H82typ # Sunday, May 23, 2010 7:01:27 PM