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Mommy Debian

In my wandering around in search of the less bloated but still functional Linux distro I came back once again to mommy Debian, in its Wheezy - testing version (soon to become stable). I opted for the XFCE desktop environment and it is much lighter and faster than Ubuntu derivatives. It has two other major advantages, first you have got multiple options for installing instead of just an huge ISO that fits either a DVD or an USB key, like most other distros. The other advantage is that it comes with a reasonable selection of preinstalled applications (GIMP, Libreoffice, Firefox, VLC, etc). So far the only bug I have met is the network applet that displays the network connection as down while it is up.The only distro that was as easily installed and as light on hardware resource, while still being full functional, was Bodhi Linux. Besides Bodhi requires you to add all the applications by hand. Unfortunately its Enlightenment desktop environment doesn't fully support compositing on my old Matrox graphic card and available themes look awful without it.

So my updated list of Linux distros for old computers is:
1. Debian Wheezy (XFCE or LXDE)
2. Bodhi (Enlightenment)
3. Slitaz (Openbox/LXDE)

Note:
I have tried to install Ubuntu - minimal and then to manually add Xorg, desktop environment, login manager and applications. It is very impractical because you end with a semi-bloated system with lots of Gnome stuff that gets installed because of dependencies and full of issues because something is missing here and there. It is not worth the pain. By the way, I guess Ubuntu derivatives are a bit bloated for the same reason.

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Comments

Sami Serolaserola Wednesday, January 23, 2013 9:28:02 AM

I'm not sure what "bloated" means in context of Ubuntu derivatives but for example on Lubuntu one still gets Firefox language pack updates although there is no Firefox installed in the first place. lets find out what is the case on Bodhi.

I have now installed Bodhi on my older laptop and so far it seems to run just okay. A pleasant surprise is that I was apple to get GIMP 2.8 via Bodhi Linux AppCenter whereas on Lubuntu it is still stuck on version 2.6.

Lorenzo CelsiLorenzoCelsi Wednesday, January 23, 2013 11:52:59 AM

Personally I measure "bloat" from RAM, swap and CPU usage, plus delays when performing operations.

Ubuntu is based on Gnome, which is not a good thing if you prefer another DE, plus its own Unity desktop plus several "tools" like the "software center" or how ever they name it these days or the HUD display and so on. Ubuntu core is a "stabilized" version of Debian but I guess it is difficult to get rid of all the stuff Ubuntu adds on top of it with all the dependencies. I am posting a screenshot of my current Debian Wheezy desktop. You see the RAM usage starting from 256MB with Firefox (Iceweasel) Thunar (file manager) MtPaint and the screen capture opened.

Sami Serolaserola Wednesday, January 23, 2013 12:37:54 PM

Originally posted by LorenzoCelsi:

RAM, swap and CPU usage, plus delays when performing operations.


Any tool you recommend to monitor those on Budhi?

Lorenzo CelsiLorenzoCelsi Wednesday, January 23, 2013 1:12:40 PM

The less intrusive one I am aware of is:
http://htop.sourceforge.net/
(sudo apt-get install htop)

Otherwise you can install XFCE or LXDE taskmanangers (easier through Synaptic).

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