Again about Opera Unite
Saturday, June 20, 2009 6:12:16 PM
That said, I found this article that summarizes some of my doubt about "Unite" and adds some more. It is detailed and written much better than I ever could.
http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2009/06/16/thoughts-on-opera-unite/
My opinion is the issue here is not technical, being "Unite" a cool tool.
It is more about marketing, like I said in a previous post.
I get really annoyed by this sort of marketing tactics, especially when I don't see the need for it.








serious # Sunday, June 21, 2009 6:44:46 AM
Lorenzo CelsiLorenzoCelsi # Sunday, June 21, 2009 7:07:37 AM
"Typically, to connect to a service running in Opera Unite, you use a domain name assigned by Opera, based on your My Opera username and the name you chose for your device, for example:
home.lachlanhunt.operaunite.com
This will connect to your services through Opera’s proxy servers."
So, I would say that "typically" using Unite requires to use Opera the browser, create an account over Opera servers and route through Opera's proxies.
About "control" over your data, I guess this is a little nonsense, you just think of the Web mail services like Gmail, without speaking of the "cloud".
Anyway, as soon as you publish whatever on the Internet, with any system, you don't have any control over it, either any privacy. I guess people aren't concerned, or they don't know, otherwise nobody would connect to the Web.
On a side note, the "Turbo" feature in Opera is again a proxy server. You don't worry of owning the contents there but about Opera tracking all your Internet traffic.
Personally the major issue with the whole Unite thing is my PC IS NOT a server. It is not online all the time, it is not safe by any means, it is not connected with enough bandwidth.
So whatever "service" I need to provide, either I buy hosting/housing from some provider (of course the preferred solution) or I use some "free" service like those from Google or Opera itself (with all the known drawbacks).
Last thing. We must agree what the Internet is. Like I said, I don't care of the technicalities of Unite right now. What did upset me is the "reinvent the Internet".
serious # Monday, June 22, 2009 5:39:31 AM
My PC is a (temporary) server ... but it runs apache (which is really easy to use in the meantime - good defaults) and sshd for tunneling. And for permanent hosting of course there are better & cheaper solutions (as you mentioned)
Lorenzo CelsiLorenzoCelsi # Monday, June 22, 2009 5:56:04 AM
But see, that makes no sense. Once you share your pictures over the Internet, no matter how, they don't belong to you any more. I can grab them and re-publish elsewhere or modify as I like.
"rights" means almost nothing, unless you are a big firm with an office full of lawyers. Yes, if a newspaper from your own country uses a picture made by you, you can MAYBE ask them to remove it or to pay some money for using. Even if it is not easy given the fact that you don't have much money to spend in lawyers and time. But if the "user/abuser" is from some other place things get almost impossible.
The EULA is born from the basic issue that the remote service usually is hold responsible for what is published over/through their servers. For example Mediaset, an italian big media corporation, opened a lawsuit against Google because users published video clips from their TV shows. It is not that Google cares of the video about your weekend but they must be in control of what is published.
And again, this all comes from the obvious contradiction of a Net where you SHARE things and "rules" (written and unwritten) that create a value from the fact that those things are kept "private" and/or sold for a fee. For example, you are a musician and you make a song. If the Net did not exist it could value X but since it can be shared in practice it values Y.
You consider all the GPL and alike software. The Net makes it possible to create software through collaboration all around the world but the result is nobody owns it. In theory there are "credits" but again, in practice after some rounds it becomes very difficult to track everybody who contributed. And the point is not who "controls" but the fact that software is accessible. Being accessible, its "value" is zero. While firms like MS and IBM base their "value" on patents and copyright, which of course is the opposite of "sharing".
Pfeleleppfelelep # Tuesday, June 23, 2009 12:00:13 PM
Lorenzo CelsiLorenzoCelsi # Tuesday, June 23, 2009 8:36:45 PM
Since we are speaking of it, what happened in France about the Internet?
Pfeleleppfelelep # Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:20:30 PM
In France, you don't have to prove your innocence, so far...
Now, believe the gov to issue a new law in a more secretive way, a much more repressive law. Wait and see.
Lorenzo CelsiLorenzoCelsi # Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:42:01 AM
serious # Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:25:00 AM
glad I'm in austria where politic doesn't give a sh** about the internet ^^
Shaunak DeShaunak # Wednesday, July 1, 2009 2:44:07 AM
Practically useless and potentially insecure. [Plus the technology already exists.]
Then again, I may be wrong....
Lorenzo CelsiLorenzoCelsi # Wednesday, July 1, 2009 5:13:22 AM