Feanor

Yep, Java is dying...

Good point

effectively today Java is not a piece of software really needed in the common internet experience... all the task it covered in the past years are now perfectly managed with other simpler and better technologies (as AJAX or (X)HTML too)

Really I can't imagine something that absolutely needs Java in a normal web site or application except Antivirus web-applications (surely much better than ActiveX)

Obviously we're considering only the client-side

Java still thrives in EE & ME systems (Quite a contrast!).

Otherwise for desktop use, especially internet scipting use, it is sadly obsolete (So is my knowledge ).

Killed by Php and Python....

Killed by Php and Python....

Well... really I don't agree with this... PHP is a server side language, and in that world Java is still alive and many developers can't live without it.

Besides client-side technology killed it

thing is, many apps that are written in java bring their own stuff with them and are compiled as native code (eg. azureus), so the "compile once, run anywhere" with an own VM is quite dead ... still java is a cool language. and yes, there are still some applets out there, mostly for scientific stuff (I often stumble simple physics-simulators and stuff in online courses). Well, let's see what JavaFX can offer - hope it is not as successful as silverlight *lol*

PS: other example: NetLogo (multi agent simulator) runs on a bundled vm in windows, other platforms are served through a jar-package, which is a really nice solution imo.

Like I said, I see Java fading away not only for the applets used in Web sites but also as programming language - platform to develop desktop software

Why are professors at universitites still teaching Java then?

Italians still study that!

Not only Italians

Lorenzo,

Do you know if Yahoo mail is dependent on Java?

Thank you, I will also uninstall Java. The worst that can happen is that I will have to reinstall it.

I've been playing in Opera. I'm going to sign off and do that right now. Does it do a COMPLETE uninstall from add/remove programs?

Hi again. My computer is running much faster now that I uninstalled Java. Let me know what you discover about ActiveX Controls. I have 1 that is currently running, and 20 that have been used by IE. If I do not need them, I would like to get them off my system as well. Thank you for your sharing this info and taking the time to answer my questions.

Yes, I see what you mean. I use Vista Home Basic, which comes with it's own set of problems. I have also had it for more than one year, thus Dell no longer offers support UNLESS I pay them. So now, I search for my own solutions to any problems. I try to keep pictures and documents backed up on flash drives just in case I have to restore to factory settings.

Since Java 1.6, they have been shipping the VM with a "Quick Starter" (Like Open Office's) This loads on start up by default and takes a few milli seconds to initialize.
Hence on uninstall, users notice an apparent speed improvement.

Java was and still remains to be a brilliant concept. The first major language to support native threading, objects, "Code Streaming(Applets)". One of the most brilliant concepts is the "Byte code", or partially compiled code, which allowed a interpreted language to achieve breakneck speeds.

The concepts related to Java are fundamental to mordern Computer Science, hence it is still taught.

Today however, developers are cheap. No one cares if code is platform independent. Its cheaper to have it rewritten for the target system.



=== Old Joke ====
Task: Shoot yourself in the foot.

+++++++[C]++++++++
include <gun.h>
void main(){
shoot(foot);
}

++++++[JAVA]+++++++++
import java.Gun.Bullet;
import java.Gun.Pistol;
class ShootMe{
public static void main (String arg[])
{
Bullet b = new Bullet();
Pistol p = new Pistol();
try{
p.load(b);
p.aim("foot");
p.shoot(1);
}
catch (Exception e){
if(e == GunNotFound){p.lookForGun();}
}}}

Correction: Intern developers are cheap!

I have uninstalled Flash Player on a disc of my Apple PowerMac PowerPC'processor, the second is still in office in case of urgent need. I am more calm, I do not see animated advertisements and I'm not tempted to waste time watching videos from dailymotion or others website.



J'ai désinstallé Flash Player sur un disque de mon Apple PowerMac à processeur PowerPC, le second est encore en fonction en cas de besoin urgent. Je suis plus calme, je ne vois pas les publicités animées et je ne suis pas tenté de perdre du temps à regarder des vidéos de dailymotion ou d'autres site web.