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Somebody please tell me why RIA applications are necessary and/or good for the Internet. Or what are they for. What do you do so cool or important with Flash or Silverlight that those technologies are the only thing people are speaking of today. Yes, alongside the "extremely useful" touch screen.
For information, see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Internet_application

On a side note, what about cheap basic laptops, small, light but with decent screens instead of netbooks?
What about having a Linux installed on those that does not look like a joke?

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serious 21. March 2009, 07:44

RIA: signed
Flash: signed
Touch screens: signed ... first thing I thought when I saw the ms surface demo was: how do you code on this thing? :wink:

netbooks: Most netbooks have quite decent displays. My Aspire one with 1024*600 is
big enough for me (hey, I remember sitting in front of a 15in CRT with 800*600 resolution and that was badass back then.

netbooks linux: signed, but look at what useless crap comes with windows pcs these days too. As for me I would kill the standard OS regardless of what it is and replace it with the mint version (Well, in fact I'm one of those guys who tries to buy hardware and software independantly)


PS: you forgot about useless Javascript in pages. See youtube favourites that don't even provide a normal link to the video -> opening in background is futile.

Lorenzo Celsi 21. March 2009, 08:45

I don't understand what "rich" means. Maybe it stands for "annoying".

The "surface" stuff is for monkeys. It is about thinking the users must be able to interact with the computer using their elbows. To me it sounds like the other revolutionary idea from mr. Gates, the tablet PC.

Netbooks IMHO should be at least 1/3 bigger because I don't need an improved mobile phone and I think of them as small notebooks. The key factor here is price and of course weight, more than the diagonal size. I guess most people would happily use low end hardware if available. You don't use a small laptop for gaming or 3D rendering.
Problem is the vendors do not make enough money from cheap stuff.

Linux distros aren't generally good enough to replace Windows on most people's PCs. But the distros they are using on the netbooks aren't even complete distros like Ubuntu, they are "semplified" ad hoc distros that of course push people to install WinXP ASAP. I don't understand these suicidal moves.

Shaunak De 22. March 2009, 20:35

Netbooks IMHO should be at least 1/3 bigger because I don't need an improved mobile phone


Strongly agree.

Today, these notebook retail near about the "high end" PDA phone mark and carry about the same functionality. In-fact, the phone has an advantage in the fact that it can make calls and it is more compact.


Any one who has tried using a touch screen in very humid, or extreme weather, conditions will vouch for the fact that they, pardon the language, *suck*. The screen detects touch via a capacitive mechanism, which gets jerky in very hot and humid conditions.

Oh yeah, and its usless in cold conditions too.....
You cant use it with gloves on..... P:

Aux 23. March 2009, 16:14

RIA is a stupid marketing word, but if we forget about marketing and all of its stupidity, then we will see Google Maps, GMail, Last.fm and other cool and useful web-applications.

Lorenzo Celsi 24. March 2009, 08:24

I do not use regularly any of the Google gadgets besides Gmail, which I use as old style email and I don't care of all the other stuff like videos etc.

Every time I hear or read the word "cool" I start to worry. That because "cool" usually means there is a "hype" about that topic, everybody talks of it but then when you take a closer look you see it is a toy/gadget whose only "usefulness" is to make you waste some time over the Internet. This usually leads to big investments in the "hype" phase, then a quick implosion when the "hype" moves to something else.
See for example Second Life.

Now, lets take a look at the business model behind the "cool" stuff. Google aims to make as many people as possible to load their pages in order to generate traffic and then associate this traffic with advertisement.
I have received several phone calls from TLCs here because they are desperately trying to sell subscriptions which include IPTV, that is a variation of the old cable TV and technically requires a close local network to work properly.
It is just an example of two colliding business models which can use the same technology.

I have always asked two questions:
1. It looks cool but what is this for actually?
2. Who is going to pay for that?

Once you properly answer these questions then we can discuss about the "coolness" of some software or another.

Aux 24. March 2009, 11:11

As for Google services I would like to say that I have my own domain and I have mail assigned to it. And mail is hosted by Google through their Google Apps. Basically that means that my mail is independent from our local problems. If Latvia looses global internet connection my email will still live. Google provides much better uptimes then I can afford. So for me Google Apps are really cool - they save my money and time and improve overall quality.

Google Maps are cool because they work better then Latvian map services. Google knows about Latvia more then we here (: And since we here do not have problems such as low speeds, modems or pay-per-traffic I use Google Maps a lot.

Same goes for Last.fm - I use it as a radio which plays what I like.

Shaunak De 11. April 2009, 13:57

I have a similar setup too with my college domain too. So my mail lives on. [Till I am still in college anyway. P:]

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