Salaries in Italy
Sunday, 19. July 2009, 05:48:48
Italians earn -17% of the OCSE average, compared to other european countries:
British workers earn 44% more.
Irish 32% more.
Germans 28% more.
French 18% more.
Now you tell me how you can buy a flat with a small dining room and two bedrooms for 400.000 euros (
564,055.56 USD), not only if you earn the above average but lets say the double. Another consequence of it is Italy has got a negative demographics, there aren't babies. It is not much evident only because we got million immigrants in few years. You may wonder how do the immigrants deal with the life cost. As usual, they come from places where life is probably harder and they accept living conditions not suitable for today Italians, like renting a poor flat in 20 people and take turns or living in almost abandoned buildings, over the railroads, etc. There are of course some side effects of this wave of immigrants, among which there is the fact that they fill all the worse jobs (cleaning, construction, small factories, farming) and then they lower the minimum wage. Plus of course they are often employed without the official/legal contract and then without insurance, pension, taxes, etc.








Aux # 19. July 2009, 08:26
Lorenzo Celsi # 19. July 2009, 10:38
Olga # 20. July 2009, 18:29
starree # 23. July 2009, 02:42
Well hopefully your day is going good otherwise
Lorenzo Celsi # 23. July 2009, 04:58
Aux # 23. July 2009, 08:01
Lorenzo Celsi # 23. July 2009, 09:13
But even before fascism was born as socialist movement, then the idea of the State taking care of everything and all the centralization and the bureaucracy involved.
Generally speaking, all european countries have in place some level of socialism and high expenses for supporting public services. What makes the difference is while some nations have a culture of organization and good management, others (like Italy) are worse.
There are pros and cons everywhere. It is like the jokes, you don't want an english cook, a german policeman or an italian organizer.
starree # 24. July 2009, 02:08
I never heard that joke before, that is funny. Ours is that all the jews run the banks and dominate show business, people like Jon Stewart say "we'd be too busy arguing to agree on anything!"
Lorenzo Celsi # 24. July 2009, 06:05
During the middle ages the Jews had some limitations like they could not own any land and they could not work in some professions. They usually lived in somehow isolated communities (ghettos).
Meanwhile Palestine had been occupied by the Arabs who took it from the remain of the Roman empire, the Bizantine. The Christians from west Europe (mostly germans like the Franks, Normans etc) then organized several military expeditions to reconquest Palestine, also known as "crusades" (but they weren't called that way back then). The Jews were caught in between the Arabs and the Christians and so probably many were forced to move again. There were also some situations when the Jews were forced on the tip of the sword to convert either to christianity or islam but they were not that common.
During time the influence of the Jews grew in Europe because some factors, among which there is good wealth on average and the tradition of reading a lot, which seems to make the Jews likely to become teachers or professors or scientists, when they don't work in banking and finance like mr. Madoff.
But then there was the beginning of '900 and the socialist-nationalist movements also known as Fascism and Nazism. During that time the Jews were considered as "enemies of the State" and basically the same limitations as the middle ages were restored. Things got worse till the extermination strategy put in place mostly in Germany and countries occupied by german troops but also in Italy, fortunately on a much smaller scale and with the usual italian "efficiency". This caused many Jews to flee to other places, like US, where apparently they had a much easier life than in Europe.
Today it seems there are about 14.000.000 Jews worldwide and 5.5 millions live in US while 5.2 millions live in Israel. In Italy there are about 45.000 Jews.
An interesting thing is the language spoken in Israel today is somehow "artificial", since it was re-constructed from the language of the Bible at the end of 1800 but it wasn't spoken by Jews already at the time of Jesus (who spoke aramaic instead).