Things I don't understand

Sunday, 13. April 2008, 10:23:23

You may know this, there was an italian "artist" girl who was "performing" a travel around the world dressed like a bride, autostopping casual people on the road. She went missing while travelling in Turkey to reach Israel and later she was found raped and killed. It seems the turkish police has got the man who killed her, some sort of local drop-out.

Now, I am obviuosly sad for the girl but I don't understand if it is me being cynical or some people living in the fantasyland of politically correctness.

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By Olgita, # 20. April 2008, 12:28:12

be a subtile mix of the two.

sad story anyway

By pfelelep, # 2. May 2008, 09:58:20

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pippa_Bacca

Bacca's sister stated "They ask me why my sister was hitchhiking. What can I say? She was just trying to prove that people are reliable."

Yeah, right.
Peace and Love.

By LorenzoCelsi, # 2. May 2008, 10:53:38

actually, it took me a lot of time to realize that you don't experiment the same world you're living in, depending if you are a man or a woman...

By pfelelep, # 5. May 2008, 07:37:51

I don't understand. That is true for any kind of difference, you experiment a different world if you are beautiful or ugly, if you are rich or poor, if you are tall or short, fat or slim, gay or stright, if you are healthy or sick, "normal" or "disabled", if you live in a place or another.

Life in unfair, so what?

What is Pippa's death good for?
Did her "passion" take away our sins?
Is she a martyr and a saint of some weird cult?
A willing victim of an human sacrifice?

By LorenzoCelsi, # 5. May 2008, 09:06:29

nope, I was just saiying that being a woman, you are exposed to "what worst a man can do", because we live obviously in a man's society (well, 99% of the world, if you count some tribes in china and africa where women rules).

one of my friend get punched and raped by a local drop-out too, 3 years ago.
I never felt some ashamed to be a man myself.

but back to pippa's story, I would still think taht thinks COULD HAVE BEEN different if she was a man.
please don't think that I am cynical or sexist, I'm just as shocked and sad as you are; as someone is dead willing just to travel.

By pfelelep, # 5. May 2008, 09:25:20

What makes me more sad in Pippa's case is she went alone to demonstrate the world is a better place then most people think, that you can trust in strangers. And her death actually demonstrates the opposite. I wish I was wrong and she was correct.

What makes me angry is none among her friends or relatives stopped her and they celebrated a party during her funeral.

By LorenzoCelsi, # 5. May 2008, 09:36:03

Lorenzo! I have just been watchin news on Turkish TV! They showed disgusting video.... That man who killed her has stolen her camera and made some video with his family after all terrible thing that he maid!!!!

http://www.showtvnet.com/haber/player.asp?ptype=haber&product=/160508/bacca.wmv&btype=none
The video was here but I can`t watch it:( I hate people like this... I thing it is illness... Actually it is not hate... They are really poor...

By Olgita, # 16. May 2008, 19:34:58

http://www.flickr.com/groups/turkey/discuss/72157604435574784/
when I read something like this I really get sad.....

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detaylar.do?load=detay&link=139514
good article...

By Olgita, # 16. May 2008, 19:44:17

Unfortunately those things happen everywhere in the world, not only in Turkey. Like I said, the girl lived in her own world where people are good and her death showed she was wrong. There are many examples of that sort of dream thinking in our world and I think it is either hipocrital or dangerous because it is silly.

I don't have any interest in travelling to Turkey but that is another story...

By LorenzoCelsi, # 16. May 2008, 19:59:56

Yes... bu it is so good and easy to leave in another world...

I hope that she is happier now then she was...

What about TUrkey? Did you have a bad experience?

By Olgita, # 16. May 2008, 20:07:35

I can't tell since there are laws in Europe and Italy that forbid me to express my ideas on the topic. Speaking of freedom.

By LorenzoCelsi, # 16. May 2008, 20:10:53

It has been first time I read about these rules..

By Olgita, # 16. May 2008, 20:17:50

There are two options, either those "rules" (I've said laws) don't exist where you live or you haven't heard those forbidden ideas before.

By LorenzoCelsi, # 16. May 2008, 20:28:26

No.... I relly have never hear about that laws (sorry, I used "rules" as the synonim)...

By Olgita, # 16. May 2008, 20:35:29

Olga, it is a very long and complicated discussion. To make it short in Europe kids are taught to hate their historical heritage and to love a brand new "globalized" world where everybody and everything is the same. Starting from the EU and down to the local administrations, they are imposing this view even against people's will, because "democracy" is just an empty word. In our "democracy" it doens't matter what people want or need, the masses must only comply the superior directives from above. If you try to rebel this master plan you go against this law or another.

Besides, people can't think if they don't know.

By LorenzoCelsi, # 17. May 2008, 07:35:44

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