Erik Dahlström

Collection of Februari '08 news

Tuesday, February 26, 2008 5:02:59 PM

news, svg, xhtml, inkscape, wordpress, illustrator

Here's a collection of links I found interesting in the past few weeks. Now the only thing that makes me twitch is how planet.intertwingly.net strips out all the svg content from my feed while preserving the 'object' element fallback content. It looks absolutely bizarre. Anyway, enough with the whining and on with the news

Joshua Zeidner interviews Ted Gould about SVG, Inkscape and Web Standards. Quite an interesting read.
The W3C Video on the Web Workshop delivered its report. I suppose there are more than a few things for people to be upset about there, but there is some sensible outcome as well. I'll get back to that in another post.
The Wikidraw project shows how SVG can be used for visualizing information from other sources in a mindmap-like fashion. Pretty cool, even though the server is a bit slow.
Smashing Magazine highlights some of the best tutorials for learning how to make the most of Adobe Illustrator, naturally they are applicable to any vector graphics editor.
Something I've written about before is the state of XHTML in Wordpress. I'm happy to hear I'm not alone in wanting more out of blogging software such as Wordpress, Jeff Schiller wrote a number of posts on the subject, among others Stimulating Wordpress and about his new XHTML+SVG theme. This new theme created some followup articles by Shelley Powers [XHTMLating feeds] and Sam Ruby [XHTMLating Wordpress].

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Comments

Øyvind ØstlundNoteMe # Wednesday, February 27, 2008 1:50:12 AM

...planet.intertwingly.net strips out all the svg content from my feed while preserving the 'object' element fallback content...

You mean like MyOpera

- ØØ -

Erik DahlströmMacDev_ed # Wednesday, February 27, 2008 8:01:54 AM

@NoteMe:
Ewww, yes, just like my.opera.com too. I take it I will have to start using inline svg instead then, but I don't think that'll work any better and it doesn't help me reuse the images.

Unregistered user # Wednesday, February 27, 2008 1:35:42 PM

Sam Ruby writes: Inline svg will definitely work better with Planet Intertwingly. In general, if you feed validates without warning, it can be handled properly by Venus. Question: would it be possible for the code that produces your feed to substitute inline SVG when it encounters an object tag with a type of image/svg+xml? That way you will have hyperlinks, caching, and reuse for online viewing, and self-contained bundles for off-line viewing.

Erik DahlströmMacDev_ed # Wednesday, February 27, 2008 4:56:49 PM

@Sam Ruby:

I'm not personally responsible for the feed-generating code, but I'll certainly ask for that feature to be added.

This has yet to be tested: if I use

will the img show up on Planet? I saw that there were a few jpg images included from some of the feeds. However if that did work only Opera 9.5 would be able to see the svg anyway AFAIK, so it wouldn't be a perfect solution for other browsers.

Jeff Schillerjeffschiller # Wednesday, February 27, 2008 5:59:59 PM

Erik: I think we need the HTML WG to agree that elements can point to SVG and then state what functionality is 'stripped' out when this is done. Until we get that, SVG using is a potentially inoperable solution (though I like what Opera has done). See this rather long thread that did not reach any satisfying conclusion (though both Chaals and Anne contributed from Opera).

I'm also curious how you would use inline SVG on my.opera.com when the page is served as text/html...