Marc Foumberg

If it was going happen...

Friday, June 12, 2009 9:31:03 PM

Opera CTO Hakon Wium Lie told Reuters:
"We are very disappointed. I don't think what Microsoft announced is going to restore competition. I don't think it's going to be enough, I don't think it will get them off the hook."

If MS bundled Opera into Windows it still wouldnt help Opera. Might help FF or Chrome. Opera began in 1995? My history is a bit fuzzy. In the mean time I've seen two other alternate browsers achieve what Opera could not do in a decade!

Fair competition? FF is doing fine. Chrome gained more ground in a shorter period of time. Im not a fan of either one.

Opera lost me as a fan a while back. The companies practices havent changed and I cant see my way to trying the browser again.

End of the Line

Comments

_Grey_ # Saturday, June 13, 2009 3:17:45 AM

Just because others (the mozilla team, that is) could what Opera couldn't, doesn't mean what Microsoft did wasn't illegal. That's why Mozilla's on this case, as far as I know.

And Hakon is right. This is supposed to be punishment. This is supposed to reshape the market in a way approaching what it might have been without M$ tying its browser to its OS and forcing OEMs not to ship competition. Of course, we don't know what the market would've looked like. But they can still punish the guilty.

grafio # Saturday, June 13, 2009 5:38:34 AM

State controlling private business and "reshaping the market" however it wants smells like fascism. Of course fascism can be perfectly legal. I'm still a user of Opera browser, but not a fan of this company any more, because it uses dirty tricks in public instituties to fight with perfectly valid competition. I am very disappointed.

Alexander Remenalexremen # Saturday, June 13, 2009 9:42:06 AM

Originally posted by grafio:

I'm still a user of Opera browser, but not a fan of this company any more, because it uses dirty tricks in public instituties to fight with perfectly valid competition.

Perfectly valid competition? The EU has already found out that it wasn't valid competition and lots of other companies supported the complaint (including Mozilla). Making IE not bundled now doesn't change the fact that MS has done it for several years and the damage is already done: most users see the blue 'e' as the only way to access the Internet. It's a way too easy way out for them!

Originally posted by MarcFou:

Opera lost me as a fan a while back. The companies practices haven't changed and I cant see my way to trying the browser again.

So filing a complaint isn't ok, but supporting it, like Mozilla, is? I don't understand why you don't like using a company's legal right when it's obvious that this is a case of antitrust violation. It isn't a "dirty trick" like grafio says.

Ice ArdorIceArdor # Saturday, June 13, 2009 10:19:17 AM

Opera's really taking the risk by sticking up to Microsoft. If Mozilla had the nerve to do what Opera is doing, do you think you'd say the same thing?

Marc FoumbergMarcFou # Sunday, June 14, 2009 5:37:13 AM

If I ever hear again how sites block Opera and the whole Open the web thing again I'll lose it. I found over the years its more propaganda than anything.

The funny thing is when these remuors are proven not true, its not the people of Opera clearing the air. They sit back and let people buy the BS rather than say, "No. The site is not targeting Opera. Its just jacked up code that needs to be fixed."

If Opera was bundled with Windows they would cry foul as people would be using Opera to download another browser and ask, "So how do I unstall Opera?"

Still not fair? It will never be fair in the eyes of a closed individual. Opera... Have a look around and see for yourself that it is what it is.

End rant and rave....