STILL still offline... or: France Telecom is crap! France Telecom is crap! France Telecom is crap!
Friday, August 10, 2007 10:40:57 AM
Anyone thinking of taking an FT phone or internet connection in France should seriously try to use an alternative provider instead... we are looking to change to cable if possible.
When I first moved to France, FT managed to bollocks-up getting my phone line sorted out for more than a month... costing me four or five wasted half-days off work, sitting at home waiting (each time, no-one turned up!) and about 700 euros in phone costs on my Dutch mobile. You can read my complaint letter about that here.
Now, three years later, the same thing happens AGAIN! A summary:
We arrange to move the line to our new house... the lady convinces us to change to a package including VOIP and IPTV... we get a call back to say oops, those services aren't available at that address (remember this bit)... we take back all the equipment and re-state our wish to move the existing internet connection to the new address...
Two weeks pass - still no internet. (Also no caller-ID, which I switch on myself through their website.)
After calling two different helplines, we are told that the lady ("Joseine" from the Toulouse Esquirol agency, for anyone interested) DIDN'T submit the request for an ADSL connection at the new address after all! It will now be sorted out... after a week.
A few days pass - still no internet, and we leave for a holiday.
Two weeks later, we return from holiday expecting to finally empty our mailboxes of the hundreds of messages they've built up... BUT STILL NO INTERNET!!!
I call the helpline, the first guy is a COMPLETE MORON who insists on asking me questions about which version of Windows I'm using and what error message Internet Explorer gives me despite the fact that I repeatedly, vociferously and increasingly angrily tell him that I HAVE NO ADSL CONNECTION TO MY PHONE LINE! When he asks me to tell him "the number written on the socket", red mist descends and I pull the plug, to humour him, thereby disconnecting the call. There was no number on plug or socket, incidently.
After a brief cooling-off period, I wonder if I'd somehow got the wrong helpdesk and tried a different menu option... sorry sir, you should have chosen option one. Fine; another call and another person to help me. Nicer and less stupid but obviously a holiday worker since she keeps me on the line for ten minutes while asking around, before eventually telling me to call another helpline.
So I call this other helpline and FINALLY get someone who is intelligent enough to know what I'm talking about and nice enough to be apologetic and understanding. Thank you Mme Pons from Perpignon for actually going straight to the problem and telling me that all of this happened because... wait for it... the new address couldn't actually have ADSL at the speed my subscription specified - which should, of course, have been ringing alarm bells way back when they realised we couldn't have TV and VOIP... in fact it should have been noted when we first asked to change address!). Then each time this caused a problem, instead of quickly calling back or just connecting us and adjusting the subscription - THEY DID NOTHING AS USUAL.
So: all of this boils down to the usual crap of people in "customer services" saying they'll do something, not checking things properly, and then not doing ANYTHING AT ALL when things go wrong. EXACTLY THE SAME STORY AS THREE YEARS AGO!!!
ARRRGGGHH!!!
Did I mention that France Telecom is crap?













MossMan # Friday, August 10, 2007 10:48:07 AM
MossMan # Friday, August 10, 2007 2:26:06 PM
The price we pay for living out in the country, sad to say.
P*nutP*Nut # Friday, August 10, 2007 5:21:03 PM
MossMan # Monday, August 13, 2007 8:14:09 AM
In fact the biggest problem may be if our *upload* speed is drastically lower than before, since we need to upload about as much as we download (to be fair and keep the sharing system stable). If it's really low then that means we have to leave the PC running all the time while it slowly feeds back what it gets in.
But internet providers rarely advertise your upload speed, and we'll just have to see what it turns out to be.
MossMan # Monday, August 13, 2007 8:14:35 AM
JazzmossJazzMoss # Monday, August 13, 2007 4:17:48 PM
Too bad Marie had left. Sigh...bet she too can't take the bad service every other telecom provider talk about.
Oh sorry...bitching in the wrong blog.
JazzmossJazzMoss # Monday, August 13, 2007 4:20:14 PM
MossMan # Wednesday, August 15, 2007 1:10:07 PM
Pfeleleppfelelep # Monday, August 20, 2007 2:38:26 PM
France telecom
is
crap.
Couldn't agree more
France beer is a bit better, it helps not to think about the rest.
MossMan # Monday, August 20, 2007 5:46:25 PM
Anonymous # Saturday, September 22, 2007 9:38:44 PM
Anonymous # Friday, December 12, 2008 8:20:46 PM
MossMan # Saturday, December 13, 2008 10:43:44 AM
Also in shops... we had a big incident where we took back a monitor because it had dead pixels... and the one we got *also* had dead pixels - and when we took that back they said "sorry, out of stock" and LITERALLY LEFT US STANDING THERE!!!
So eventually we decided to go to one of the salesmen, who ignored us while he chatted with someone else (this is completely normal behaviour for ALL customer-relations in France). We butted in and said they should be doing something for us since we just brought back a faulty monitor - so he showed us the other monitors on display - none of which we wanted. "Thanks, but we'll just take our money back then." "Well, good luck with that!"
Hmmm... what did that mean? Girl at the desk - "Give us your details and we'll send you a cheque after four weeks." "WTF?!?!? NO! You sold us a faulty product, give us back our money now!" "Can't, company policy." "That can't be legal! You can't have the right to take our money and not deliver what you promised. We need a monitor NOW!"
Anyway, to cut the rest short - huge, loud, two-hour argument with the manager in the middle of the shop (the large DARTY at the centre of Toulouse), who eventually realised he couldn't bully us into just accepting it and offered us a more expensive monitor instead. (But even then acting ungraciously about it like he was doing us some huge favour.) So we took one (which was less pretty but turned out to have a better picture once we got it home) and won't ever be shopping at DARTY again.
And that's the thing - we have already vowed several times never to use a company again after totally crap service like that... don't they realise that it's bad for business...?! But then like you said, the French just seem to accept it.
MossMan # Saturday, December 13, 2008 10:55:50 AM
Since they're starting to develop housing around where we are now (unfortunately... we moved out of town to get away from the dense housing - so of course two months after moving they bulldozed the country house opposite us and start building a four-storey square concrete block) I'm hoping that the fibre-optic cable people will lay a line up here. 100Mbit line and release from France Telecom - that's my dream!
Anonymous # Thursday, January 29, 2009 8:37:44 AM
MossMan # Thursday, January 29, 2009 2:20:13 PM
P*nutP*Nut # Saturday, February 27, 2010 12:05:17 PM
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