Against Ignorance

Originally posted by shekhchillykabaap:

Thanks for coming on my page but u haven't leave ur any precious comment. haven't u enjoy?

I will comment when I feel inspired to do so.

I see that you mention my id, but say nothing about the struggle against war, racism, Zionism and other evils. The struggle for peace is what interests me.

If you plant faith, you will reap openness.
If you plant openness, you will reap truth.
If you plant truth, you will reap justice.
If you plant justice, you will reap peace.
If you plant peace, you will reap freedom.

Faith --> openness --> truth --> justice --> peace -- freedom

If you want me to reply, plant some seeds. :)

Originally posted by shekhchillykabaap:

Pls comment on my blog.

I'm sorry, but I cannot. I visited your blog a second time, but no inspiration came. If you have something important to say, you can surely say it without my help. Instead of loving me, please focus on the millions of people in this world who are truly in NEED of love -- victims of the War Machine, for example, victims of oppression and occupation.

Deletions folder:

I try to give everyone a chance to speak. However, I now find that I am forced to delete some comments. Either they lack enduring value, or they are disruptive, or they are part of a personal dispute that I do not have the power to resolve.

The standards for a blog have to be higher than the standards for a forum. In a forum, hostility and accrimony is allowed; in a blog, however, the conversation needs to be friendly and constructive.

Friendly helpful criticism is allowed here; unfriendly destructive criticism is not. Please see my article on "Communication and communion":

http://my.opera.com/NonZionist/blog/show.dml/6198781?startidx=50#comment16481871

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DR. ANWER JAMAL # 20. January 2010, 19:05
AND WHAT ABOUT MY WORD 'MINE OF HEAVENLY TREASURE'?
SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IT TO MAKE THEM UNDERSTAND.
YOU R THE ONLY BRIDGE BETWEEN US AND APPOINTED AS JUDGE.
PRAISE BE THE LORD.
http://my.opera.com/NonZionist/blog/show.dml/6198781?startidx=50#comment16481871

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DR. ANWER JAMAL # 21. January 2010, 02:31
It is ur blog and u r king of ur own kingdom but I want justice.
They are talking about me but not saying a single word about my ideology that Partition of Pakistan was a mistake and now we shud try to destroy the political enimity. This beautiful earth is one ,God is one and our Father Adam is also One.
we shud try to feel the Oneness, which is everywhere.
Say openly if u have something to say.
http://my.opera.com/NonZionist/blog/show.dml/6198781?startidx=50#comment16507481

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Piiiya # 20. January 2010, 19:57
@Charlie: I AGREE WITH U AND THANK U FOR IT! This is wat i indicated u, Dr. Anwer spoiled ur blog as well, lyk many other ppls blogs he ruined where ever he went...

u r the king of ur kingdom. So pls do wat u deem is necessary for the soveriegnty of ur lovely knowledge filled & thought provoking kingdom i love2live in!
http://my.opera.com/NonZionist/blog/show.dml/6198781?startidx=50#comment16485351

Originally posted by irczas:

I simply do not want to be a part of this hellish evil.

Which of the MANY hellish evils are you referring to, irczas?

Originally posted by irczas:

This is a quotation of your post.

I am glad there are people who think like you.

Emoticon disappeared

Thanks irczas. It's helpful to know that somebody is actually reading these blogs.

I'm sure there are many people in this world who CANNOT speak. Either they lack access to the Internet, or they live under a government that imprisons truth-tellers. Since we in the U.S. DO still have a right to speak, it is my duty to exercise this right in behalf of people less fortunate.

I recommend your blog, as well. Your photographs invite us to talk about issues that we would otherwise ignore.

We were on good terms over at Mona's blog: What happened?!

http://my.opera.com/mona964/blog/show.dml/4903211#comment17455621 -- friendly message to Anodyne

Now you come over to my blog, and you seem like a different person.

I've just answered the hostile insinuations you made in your reply to my "Peaceful Palestine" article:

http://my.opera.com/NonZionist/blog/show.dml/5512321

I will leave your message stand, so that others can see your tone and judge for themselves. But I WILL delete any additional unfriendly messages you may post. "Argument by insinuation" is both hostile and underhanded.

The cynicism your message promotes is unwelcome here. This cynicism is evident
* in your insinuation that the victims of Zionism are inherently violent.
* when you suggest that it is pretentious to oppose ignorance,
* when you claim that "destructive", "unfriendly", and "offensive" are relative, and thus meaningless, qualities
* when you defend ideology.

The ideologue is, essentially, a sociopath. He puts his political cause above conscience. He disregards moral concerns and focuses solely on advancing his chosen tribe or party. He is morally blind, blind to justice, blind to the suffering he inflicts.

No, we do NOT need ideologies, and no, I am NOT an ideologue. I do NOT believe that the "end justifies the means". Just the opposite, I use moral sensibility and compassion as my guide.

The cynicism I see in your attitude here is something I often find in the Zionists I dialogue with. There is the same smirk, the same disdain for things human, the same air of superiority. But the joke, in the end, is on the cynics themselves, because chronic cynicism is hazardous to one's health.

No, I will not delete your comment above. It is instructive. But it's not the discussion you should regret: It's your unhealthy attitude. If you come back with a constructive attitude, your messages will be welcome.

Originally posted by tanclo:

As far as I know, Theodore Herzl was not a Jew. He was a confirmed atheist in fact. excluding him from the definition of "Jew" and certainly from the category of "radical Jew".

As far as I know this is true. At the time, "Jew" was seen as a religious denomination. The irreligious Zionists got around this by redefining "Jew" to mean a particular nation or tribe, defined by genes (biological descent). Some even went so far as to call Jews a "race", and Rabbi Schneerson, head of the influential Chabad/Lubavitcher sect, said that Jews are a separate species:

http://users.cyberone.com.au/myers/shahak2.html +( The difference between a Jewish and a non-Jewish person stems from the common expression: "Let us differentiate." Thus, we do not have a case of profound change in which a person is merely on a *superior level*. Rather, we have a case of "let us differentiate" between totally different *species*. This is what needs to be said about the body: the body of a Jewish person is of a totally different *quality* from the body of [members] of all nations of the world ... )+ -- (Highly influential) Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson

The German Nazis likewise insisted that Jews are a separate race. Although the Zionists pose as the protectors of "The Jews", they have frequently colluded with the worst anti-Semites.

http://www.zmag.org/sustainers/content/2001-09/05wise.htm +( That most Jews have never examined the founding principles of this ideology to which they cleave is unfortunate. For if they were to do so, they might be shocked at how anti-Jewish Zionism really is. Time and again, Zionists have even collaborated with open Jew-haters for the sake of political power. )+ -- Tim Wise, "Reflections on Zionism From a Dissident Jew", 05 Sep 2001

Herzl was not commited to establishing his Zionist utopia in Palestine. He considered Argentina and Uganda, and decided upon Palestine only because he thought it would be easier to sell the idea to religious Jews.

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/15935 +( Israelis & Palestinians: What Went Wrong? By Amos Elon / The New York Review of Books / 19 Dec 2002 .... One of Herzl's closest associates is said to have come running to him one day, exclaiming: "But there are Arabs in Palestine! I didn't know that!" The story may well be apocryphal but it sums up, as such stories often do, the central facts of the case. In his answer, if there was any, Herzl would not have made an appeal to "historical rights," as many others did and still do to this day. He didn't believe in "historical rights" and he was too well informed not to know the damage that had been done by the quest for such rights during the nineteenth century by Germans, French, and Austrians, as well as in the Balkans, to name only a few examples. )+

http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Famous-Zionist-Quotes/Story643.html +( On 7 July 1902, while meeting the Royal Commission on Alien Immigration in London, Herzl was asked why Russian Jews could not be settled in uninhabited lands other than Palestine, such as Argentina, he replied: ++( "[Such resettlement would fail] because when you want a great settlement, you must have a flag and an idea. You CANNOT make those things ONLY WITH MONEY. . . With money you CANNOT make a general movement of a great mass of people. You must give them an ideal. You must put into them the belief in their future, and then you will be able to take out the devotion of the hardest labour imaginable. [For example,] Argentina has a very GOOD SOIL and the conditions for agricultural labour are MUCH BETTER better than in Palestine, but in Palestine they work with enthusiasm and they succeed. I am not speaking of artificially made colonies, but self-helping colonies, which have that great national idea." )++ -- Martin Gilbert, /Israel: A History/, p. 21 )+

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Here is what the Jewish Encyclopedia said of this madness, 100 years ago:

http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=132&letter=Z&search=Zionism +( The Reform wing of the Synagogue, however, rejects [political Zionism]; and the Conference of Rabbis that sat in Frankfort-on-the-Main July 15-28, 1845, decided to eliminate from the ritual "the prayers for the return to the land of our forefathers and for the restoration of the Jewish state." The Philadelphia Conference, Nov. 3-6, 1869, adopted as the first section of its statement of principles the following: "The Messianic aim of Israel is not the restoration of the old Jewish state under a descendant of David, involving a second separation from the nations of the earth, but the union of all the children of God in the confession of the unity of God, so as to realize the unity of all rational creatures, and their call to moral sanctification." This was re-affirmed at the Pittsburg Conference, Nov. 16-18, 1885, in the following words: "We consider ourselves no longer a nation, but a religious community; and we therefore expect neither a return to Palestine, nor a sacrificial worship under the sons of Aaron, nor the restoration of any of the laws concerning a Jewish state." )+

Here's a Jewish dissident who believes that Zionists harmed Jews when they shifted the basis of the definition from religion to ethnicity:

http://wrmea.com/Washington-Report_org/www/backissues/0296/9602039.html +( The Grand Illusion of Jewish Ethnicity Dr. Alfred M. Lilienthal / Feb/Mar 1996, pg. 39 .... The Israelis indeed are a separate national entity. But the Jews most definitely are not, belonging as they do to 155 national entities. Mind you, it is not only Arabs who have rejected Zionism with its claim of Jewish nationhood. There were once many Christians as well as Jews--and still are some today--who refused to accept the Zionist concept of the ethnicity of the Jews. I have devoted more than 50 years of my life toward maintaining vigilantly that Judaism is not Zionism, Zionism is not Judaism, and that to be anti-Zionist is in no way to be anti-Semitic. And at the same time, I have never ceased struggling--in writings, lectures, and television-radio appearances for more than a half-century, across the country and abroad, and against unimaginable odds--for a full, just and meaningful peace in the Middle East. Israel's flag has at no time become mine. .... )+

Originally posted by tanclo:

Race is a completely unscientific concept. It is more a sociological and political tool of abuse.

Very true. Abuse and exploitation by ideological demagogues.

And just as German culture was the first victim of the Nazi infatuation with "The Aryan Race", so too, cosmopolitan Jewish culture was the first victim of the Zionist infatuation with "The Jewish Race". It is sad to watch people turn from the cosmopolitan to the xenophobic.

+( I also don't care for scientific proofs. )+ -- Anodyne

Why does this not surprise me?!