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Sápmi I.

A hare is sitting in winter in the hole in snow and he’s terribly cold. He tells to himself: „If I survive until summer, I’ll build a house for myself for next winter.“ When the summer comes the hare does not do anything and just pricks up his mouth to the sun, basks next hot stone and says:“ One winter won’t be worse than other one.“ So the house is not ever built.

Sápmi and Sámi

Sápmi or (mostly all around the world) Lapland. It is cultural region in Northern Europe streched in Norway, Sweden, Finland and Russia.
The land of Sámi is one of the things I would love to study.

The little story above is from anthology of Sámi fairytales and stories. And it comes from Isak Persen Saba, 1918 (he heard this story from his mother).

For the beginning I would like to write a bit about the language of Sámi. It does not have dialects but there are different kinds of Sámi languages. They belong to Uralic language family and they are also connected to Baltic-Finnic languages.
Down on the map You can see the regions of the different kinds of Sámi language.
Sámi has eleven kinds – conscription in Roman characters or Russian alphabet.
1. South (Åarjil) Sámi,
2. Ume (Upme) Sámi,
3. Pite (Bitthun)Sámi, 4. Lule (Julev) Sámi,
5. North (Davvi) Sámi,
6. Skolt Sámi,
7. Inari (Ánár) Sámi,
8. Kildin Sámi,
9. Ter Sámi.



The Kemi Sámi is already extinct and the Akkala Sámi too (the last speaker od Akkala died in December 2003).The North Sámi is most spoken (about 20.000 people).
The Kemi Sámi is preserved in several poems by Olof Sirma (was told these by vicars) in anthology by Johannes Schafferus „Lapponia“; 1673

The first mention about Sámi language we can found in „Orosius“ (the history of the world) written by Alfred the Great. He got information from Norwegian peasan/merchant Ottar from Helgoland who tells stories about Lapps – language similar like „Beorms“ (Perm? … maybe from Karelia)

Then in 16th century appears a dictionary for seafarers where are found first Sámi words.

In half of the 18th century came to Sápmi János Sajnovics to find some similarities between Hugnarian and Sámi language. – „Demonstratio Idioma Ungarorum et Laponum Idem Esse“; 1770.

1799 – Gyarmathi Sámuel writes another comparative philology of Ugro-Finnic languages – searching for similarities in Sámi, Finnish and Hungarian.


Would you like to hear how does it sound? smile Then I can recommend one of my favourite artists – Mari Boine.

Angles Sleeping by Gottfried Helnwein5 days in Budapest

Comments

Рудиsmurf29 Wednesday, August 6, 2008 7:40:50 AM

happy love up 57i7

HenryAOTEAROAnz Friday, August 15, 2008 2:55:56 AM

Hiya Kristina..smile
Sorry i am out of pms and wanted to give you this...

I'm calling in to invite you to celebrate O.W.C. Member of the week, our first of many to come, be great if you dropped in if you have the time.
ta.
Henry.
Take care,
bigsmile

sorinste-ven Friday, August 15, 2008 4:46:15 PM

these sami are they Laplanders ?
i mean that people looking like old-siberians (a little like mongols) ?
don't they live all the space around the the Arctic ocean ?

MirjamNordenstam Friday, August 15, 2008 6:13:32 PM

Yes, people in the world use to call them Lapps or Laplanders but the Sami people do not call themselves Laplanders at all.
As I wrote the Sápmi area is streched over Norway, Sweden, Finland, Kola peninsula and Russia. You may find some Sámi immigrants in Canada and USA too. Well, there are always some immigrants from everywhere in the world smile

sorinste-ven Friday, August 15, 2008 7:03:56 PM

as planet weather gets warmer their lands will be......kinda "cote d'azur", we should try to buy some land there....just in case
(this week in my places temperatures were 34-38 degrees, so you may understand me)

MirjamNordenstam Friday, August 15, 2008 7:25:21 PM

Well, such temperatures are normal in my country.
But don't forget they have quite nice summer time too thanks to Gulf stream smile And if the Gulf stream disappears cause of the warming - they will have the weather more colder than warmer wink

sorinste-ven Friday, August 15, 2008 7:52:34 PM

north canada is melting too, so gulf-stream ....has nothing to do with warm weather in the north
you probably live close to some desert....
anyway it is bad especially bc nights are very warm too, land does not loose the day warmth during nights, there are foreigners from arabia and africa astonished and hardly affording our heat

MirjamNordenstam Friday, August 15, 2008 8:14:41 PM

I'm afraid that it does. smile Anyway I do not plan to argue about this with you here. It has nothing to do with the topic.

HenryAOTEAROAnz Saturday, August 16, 2008 7:28:04 AM

Hi Kristina, very interesting..smile
It upsets me to read of languages lost, i was looking here atENDANGERED LANGUAGES.
Such a pot-pouri, Sámi, a mix of languages WOW!. I am listening to Mari now..sounds good, Gula Sámi The sami anthem mmmm. My native language is Māori, the spirit in Mari's music touches me in the same way as Māori songs do. This second track has a reggae feel, niceone..smile
Thought you may like to hear this Whirimako Black YouTube.
Are you of sami decent in your genealogy Kristina ?
Great post. And i am subscribed to your ongoing posts ..smile
I'll be back to listen to more Mari with you up. I like bigsmile
Thanx Kristina
smile

I found this at Wiki
This is Sirma's first poem (Guldnasas?); a Sami love story which he sang to spur on his reindeer so that they will run faster:

Kulnasatj, my little doe!

It is time for us to travel,
to leave for the northern forest,
to hurry over great bogs,
to travel to the home of the fair.

Do not detain me long, Kajgavare,
travel safely, Kälvejaure!
Many thoughts are on my mind,
when I travel on Kaiga bay.

Hurry now swift one, my doe,
so that before that we may arrive
at that which Sarak sent,
the fate intended for me.

Alas, that soon I saw her,
were I to look at my darling!
Kulnasatj, my little doe,
do you now see ner eyes?

Also in Kemi Sami and Swedish¹...smile

c u soon and TQ. OvO*





jonpar Sunday, August 17, 2008 1:34:58 AM

Very nice and sensitive !!

MirjamNordenstam Monday, August 18, 2008 9:01:34 AM

Hi Henry!

Thanks a lot for Your attention! smile
And also thank You for the Whirimako link at Youtube! It's first time I can hear this language and the song is nice smile
I just saw something about Maori in a document on the box. And it made me interested but I haven't found any other people here in Cz being interested and also some literature sources and such aren't here.

You know, I like a lot the indigenous ethnics and tribes like Sami, Maori and so... these people seem to me more honest and much more connected to nature than all the people around I know. smile

It's wonderful that You can still speak Māori smile

HenryAOTEAROAnz Monday, August 18, 2008 9:45:33 AM

A little Māori for you Kristina..smile

Tena koe e hoa, Kei te pehea koe ?
Hello my friend, how are you ?

Tenakoe:... Hello and thankyou, to a close friend. And is also like a nod of agreement.
Kia ora:.... Hello and thankyou generally. Aso a lovely way to say hi and i wish you good health.

Teach me a something in your language, or Sámi if you like Kristina smile

smile
Henry.
TQ

HenryAOTEAROAnz Monday, August 18, 2008 10:01:34 AM

re status:: mmm i'll guess Swedish. smile It's a hard choice to make between the two.
I am not a proficient speaker of either language to help...what would you prefer..?
I used the my.opera search and came up with a couple of links, you may find interesting Kristina..smile
Language Exchange.

Opera Web Applications

bye c u soon..TQ..

MirjamNordenstam Monday, August 18, 2008 1:56:21 PM

Thank You! That's fantastic!

I cannot speak Sámi (yet).

We say thank You this way "Děkuji" or "Díky" (not for official occasions).
"Ahoj" means hi. It comes from a greeting which was originally used only by watermen smile But now it is the most common way of saying hi. Next this one we have also "Čau" (comes from Italian), and others not that much used. smile

"Jak se máš?" - How are You? smile
And for example "hodně štěstí" means "(I wish You) a lot of luck".
"Sen" means dream. Important word for me. (:

Do You want to know something more specific?

Thanks a lot for the forum link smile
I always wished a lot to learn Swedish - but as I also want to move in Tromso in Norway it does not have that much sense... I want to study Sámi studies in future which are mostly "accesible" in Finland or in Tromso. Finnish language seems to influence Sámi languages a lot. So it would be giving the biggest sense.
You know, I bought a textbook of Finnish about 3 years ago but never got a chance to study that somewhere, this summer I had strong feeling to start to study that one and in last days happend something strange what was like: "Hey girl, think about it, make up Your mind again!"
I would prefer Finnish now.
And also - my wonderful girlfriend love is Hungarian and even though that Hungarians do not understand Finnish and the other way around - it's still the same language branch. So it would place good basics for later studies of Hungarian. (Fantastic language btw! And interesting history bigsmile )

HenryAOTEAROAnz Monday, August 18, 2008 3:32:23 PM

Love your enthusiasm Kristina...you have thought things thru...good on you. A post on your up coming studies will make for interesting reading. smile
Thankyou, oh i mean Děkuji, is that too official smile the examples you have taught me are great. I have a poll on my blog, its 'What is goodmorning to you' If you wouldn't mind Kristina, your favourite form of goodmorning would be good Díky smile And i'll add it to the poll..smile
up
Díky
bigsmile

MirjamNordenstam Monday, August 18, 2008 5:08:04 PM

My favourite form of good morning? Hyvää huomenta! (or just huomenta!)
And... Hungarian... Jó reggelt! "Dobré ráno" is it in Czech. smile

HenryAOTEAROAnz Tuesday, August 19, 2008 11:15:09 PM

Děkuji Kristina..smile
Jak se máš?
Hope all is well.
Thankyou Kristina, i have added your 'goodmorning's' you have mentioned, to my poll. I especiially like your favourite, Hyvää huomenta! Thankyou for your help..smile Hungarian and Czech 'goodmorning'
has been absent from this poll also, for way too long..diky..up
Take care...see you soon,
Henry.
smile

Dana Horalikova / NorwayDanush Thursday, October 16, 2008 8:52:12 PM

Ahoj, moc pěkný čtení. Málokdo vůbec ví, kdo to sámové jsou!

jonpar Sunday, October 19, 2008 9:09:02 PM

Hi...long time since my last post smile smile
I hope you had a good week-end

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