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Blue Liight Special: Wii Firmware 4.2

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I have NO idea why Nintendo loves to send me those update messages at midnight...alas, they keep doing it. Anyway, this time it was to let us know that the Wii has a System Update waiting: Firmware 4.2

Now, the weird thing is, Nintendo hasn't even announced this yet! That's right, it just hits your system and no official release is made. As such, there is not much information on what exactly this 4.2 update does exactly... Obviously, it attempts to override any form of hacking, homebrewing, or illegal software loaders (and according to reports, it does so fairly well, deleting the ever-famous Homebrew Channel and all custom IOS installed in tampered Wiis). Any more info will be made available as soon as Nintendo remembers to actually acknowledge this update.

UPDATE: Now, to access the Wii Shop Channel, Firmware 4.2 is mandatory.
UPDATE 2: Joystiq readers report that, although the update is intended to combat modded consoles, it is actually 'bricking' totally legit ones!! No specifics have been given as to which specific conditions affect the bricked Wiis, but Nintendo reps have stated that should this happen to you, you can send it in for a free repair (as long as the console is unmodded, of course).
UPDATE 3: Recent reports claim that Nintendo has NO WAY of repairing Wiis that have been bricked because of the update, short of replacing the entire motherboard. :O

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Comments

Chas4 29. September 2009, 12:18

My blue light was at 3 am

I have 4.2 as of 6 am

Spook81 29. September 2009, 13:01

I haven't updated yet :frown: Maybe I'll do it tonight, if I have the time P:

Chas4 29. September 2009, 15:56

Originally posted by Spook81:

I have the time


A bright blue light made me thing it was some update, I have noticed lighter blue lights are from the channels

Just it would be nice if it did not start glowing when you are trying to sleep

Spook81 29. September 2009, 16:02

I still miss the soothing, slow fade-in/fade-out original sequence; now the blue light fades in, but it just flashes abruptly out :frown:

Chas4 29. September 2009, 16:15

Originally posted by Spook81:

I still miss the soothing, slow fade-in/fade-out original sequence; now the blue light fades in, but it just flashes abruptly out


had not noticed that

I only have noticed that the very bright blue liight is an update from Nintendo, and the lighter blue is a message from a channel

borri 29. September 2009, 18:08

My blue light dont show up maybe cuz my bro turn on the wii and check at 6am when he went to school. Yes I dont get it the updated.

Spook81 29. September 2009, 18:15

Not to worry borri, the message is still in your message board; just go there and click the UPDATE button.

Nintendofanatic 29. September 2009, 20:56

or just press the "wii system update" button on the settings page...

Originally posted by Spook:
"fades in, and then abruptly out"
Oh, thank God! I thought that was just my Wii! :smile:

Btw, how bright would the light be if there were a system update and a channel message AT THE SAME TIME?!?!

The room would be so bright with blue, that you just paste stickers of fish on the wall, and you get an aquatic life theme for the room!

Spook81 29. September 2009, 21:08

hehehehe

kawaiipikachu 29. September 2009, 23:10

Well i allready updated & as i type this Via my Wii with my USB keyboard my Weii just turned blue alertin me that the update is avaliable even thru i allready updated .

I usally get the emails after i allready updated .

Spook81 29. September 2009, 23:20

Yeah, they usually don't check if you've updated or not, they just send the message out. Have you noticed anything new in the update?

kawaiipikachu 30. September 2009, 23:06

Yeah it is a pretty good attempt at steming Piracy .

Spook81 30. September 2009, 23:11

Then a good update it is :wink: SAY NO TO PIRACY!!!!

lutherjw 1. October 2009, 03:11

Homebrew =/= piracy.

Spook81 1. October 2009, 03:17

I know that... unfortunately, hacking does outnumber homebrewing :frown:

Nintendofanatic 1. October 2009, 20:35

although, some content in homebrewing applications (channel, acekart 2i) may not be legally authorized, and therefore is pirated.



At least that's what I've read from the Popular Science magazine.

LlamaBoy 2. October 2009, 02:35

What if you had Homebrew Channel installed at one point, but it's gone now?

Spook81 2. October 2009, 02:42

I wouldn't chance it just yet...

CaptainSeagull 2. October 2009, 02:54

The problem comes from a network disconnection at a bad time, just like when saving your game you turn the power off and data gets corrupted, however, when an update like this gets interrupted halfway through the system gets corrupted. if you always have a great connection i wouldnt worry.

Spook81 2. October 2009, 02:57

See? That's just stupid. The update should download itself to the memory FIRST, and THEN update...

CaptainSeagull 2. October 2009, 03:01

the update may also have to replace the scripting for memory itself.

CaptainSeagull 2. October 2009, 05:53

It's like when flashing the bios.

Spook81 2. October 2009, 13:12

Yeah, but you don't flash the BIOS while still downloading the update!!!

CaptainSeagull 2. October 2009, 13:33

im just saying if any re-writing is going on to the mechanics of the memory, it may not work because it would write over the rest of itself halfway through and then not exist to finish the job.

Nintendofanatic 2. October 2009, 23:21

I read right now an article about flash 10 for mobile phones. I then immediately thought that since the Wii uses flash lite 3.1 (mobile flash version for mobiles), that Nintendo would make an update to the interent channel that would allow the wii to include the mobile version of flash 10, and be compatible with media heavy and flash 10 dependent sites. Think it's possible?

Spook81 2. October 2009, 23:57

I guess it would depend on the Nintendo-Adobe Licensing Agreement... It's not so much if the Wii can handle Flash content as much as how much it would cost Nintendo to license the software (that's why the iPod/iPhone, although fully capable of running Flash content, still doesn't)

kawaiipikachu 3. October 2009, 00:10

Normally when an update gets updated in downloads them & then installs but at times it updates mutible things like when i done the 4.0 update it got interupted halfway thru but the SD card icon appeard so one part of the update is there but when i went back i found that there are still more updates & the remaining update took just as long as the first part when it got interupted at halfway .

Doing the updates in parts does makes sense as there is a couple hundres MB's of space used by the system software (OS channels .ect)& it only has 88MB of RAM so an update could get there first update the OS then the news channel & then the wether channel & then the shop channel .
So an entire update is really multable updates in one .

This update is the first time that Nintendo updated the bootloader & it sopposed be older Wiis getting bricked that has the boot2v2 when its getting updated to the boot2v4 but somehow not the newer somehow not getting this problem .

The problem supposadly when the umdated get interupeted beetween the final insterlation of the bootloader & the download of the os .

Don't ask my why its only the older Wiis with the boot2v2 not the Newer Wii's with with the boot2v3 but by any logic that once any Wii finally have the bootloader installed that any Wii could get bricked during the OS download meaning that the older Wii's shouldent be the only one getting bricked .

In my opionon that Wii's getting bricked is nothing related drictly upbove problem & its really some other fault .

Spook81 3. October 2009, 00:20

If this is the reason why Wiis are getting bricked, then BEFORE you decide to update Nintendo should issue a strong warning: this is gonna take some time, make sure you don't get disconnected, your power doesn't go out, and no natural disasters are about to strike (yeah, I'm being sarcastic...) the truth is this SHOULDN'T happen, period... if it is so critical for the update that you don't get disconnected, then the update should only be included in discs or include an option for you to download it to an SD card first.

Nintendofanatic 3. October 2009, 00:51

What does it mean for a wii to get bricked?
Ive heard of the expression before, but dont really understand what happens to the wii when it gets "bricked"

Spook81 3. October 2009, 01:12

What do you get when you turn on your Wii and it doesn't do anything? Nothing at all? A WHITE BRICK! :wink:

CaptainSeagull 3. October 2009, 02:51

bricked is when it wont do crap. computers get bricked when BIOS are flashed and a problem arises, cell phones, etc... its something that is just bound to happen, no one can stop lightning from striking, tornados from forming or dolphins from kickin the crap outta sharks, disasters happen sometimes.

My Wii is from the very first shipment, so not ALL older ones are getting this trouble, mine is fine.

haavard 3. October 2009, 13:42

I have an old Wii. I have heard about the bricking, and I am not going to update until Nintendo can assure me that it will not brick my system.

If the update is required for future games and there is still a risk of my Wii being bricked, I'm not sure what to do. Stop buying Nintendo products?

Spook81 3. October 2009, 14:33

The risk is when, apparently, your Wii loses connection while updating (and the update has not been fully downloaded yet). So if the update is included in any new games, you won't have to fear the issue from affecting you.

CaptainSeagull 3. October 2009, 15:07

exactly, and the risk happens at a certain point in the process, not at ANY point all the way through.

kawaiipikachu 4. October 2009, 21:32

Yes & like i mention before that point being when the new Boot2 finished instaling but still downloading the OS so when its interupted the ne Boot refuses to boot the old 4.1 OS as the OS was only in the downloading stage not tyhe instalation stage .

Nintendofanatic 5. October 2009, 00:47

wwwow.....
JUST noticed all three updates to the article!











I fail.

Spook81 5. October 2009, 01:44

Weird thing now... before, whenever we updated an article, it would stay in 'its place' (you know, below any newer articles); now, MyOpera takes any modification as a new date and therefore, all updated articles stay on top of the list.

Chas4 5. October 2009, 01:55

Originally posted by Spook81:

MyOpera takes any modification as a new date and therefore, all updated articles stay on top of the list


that happened to a blog of mine

CaptainSeagull 5. October 2009, 13:17

spook, in the "advanced options" you will notice default action is to include the date in the post link, uncheck this box and things will be right, i wish default was off, because it breaks links to the blog being edited if it gets a new URL.

haavard 6. October 2009, 13:19

I wonder if Nintendo legally has the right to refuse to repair a console bricked by their software updates even if it is modded.

Spook81 6. October 2009, 13:41

Yes, they do. Once your console is modded, you COMPLETELY void your warranty and therefore forfeit all of the legal obligations Nintendo would have on your console. However, as far as I know, they're not refusing to repair such consoles, they just might not do it for free.

Nintendofanatic 6. October 2009, 20:30

i read that with every update, you get all the features from previous updates.
Does that apply to the bricking of one's Wii with updates after 4.2? :eyes:

haavard 6. October 2009, 20:31

I'm not convinced that Nintendo has the right to charge people if their software update broke something. I'm smelling class action lawsuits coming up. If they even admitted to trying to mess with hardware modification, they may be in trouble. It gives the impression that they are bricking consoles on purpose.

CaptainSeagull 7. October 2009, 00:07

impressions are one thing, intent is another.

Spook81 7. October 2009, 00:20

The Cap is right... remember guys, this is a problem that arises under very specific conditions and on a very specific step of the process... It doesn't happen to everyone, so it's not on purpose... Yes, they screwed up, but that doesn't mean they meant to do it...
Nintendofanatic: Probably that would be true, unless they find some way of patching it or only release them on discs.

CaptainSeagull 7. October 2009, 12:45

i wouldnt even say they screwed up. its a mechanic of how these things work. the same thing happens to HDD in computers too, loose electricity at the wrong time and your junked, get some static in that thing - poof!

since this is done through a net connection, you better not loose connection during that intrical part.

Spook81 7. October 2009, 13:18

Yeah, but when flashing BIOS in your computer YOU ARE WARNED about the risks... With this update, they never even informed you there was a risk... (Mainly because they didn't release any info on 4.2 update until AFTER these events started happening)

CaptainSeagull 7. October 2009, 23:41

actually when flashing a bios in a computer usually you are going against the manufactures suggestions. Nintendo also warns you to not turn off the power and the power button (on remote) even becomes disabled (at least for a previous update it was) - sure it doesnt give you exact reasons why, but the warning is in place.

Spook81 8. October 2009, 01:52

Not buying the excuse P: hehehe

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