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Please take into consideration that I am no native English speaker.

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Sometimes I ask questions in forums. In English speaking forums in English. Most of the time if I have a technical problem I can't solve alone. Some people might say that I should ask in forums that are in my native language, but that is quite problematic. About 80-90 million people might speak my language in a more or less fluent way, but there are about 500 million people who speak English as their native language, and the same amount again who that speak it as their second or third language. English is the de facto standard for technical communication in the Internet, even people from the former cold war opponent countries visit English speaking forums and write in English. Now imagine I spoke Maltese as my native language (unfortunately I do not), would you suggest that I ask about programming problems in a Maltese speaking forum?

Obviously not.

Coming back to the first point:

Answering my questions may be simple for you, it might even be that the answer is just one forum thread or a quick search away but please don't insult me by answering "Use the search!" or "Use Google!".
I did.
I can search.
Everybody can search.
Please don't think I am lazy or stupid, searching is not the problem, finding is it.


Search terms that may come easy to you might not come to my mind. The reasons for that can be either that you have the necessary background in the topic or you can speak a better English, or you might even be a native English speaker.

It may seem to some people as if I were quite fluent in in English but this is a misconception. Don't get me wrong, my passive knowledge is by far greater than my active knowledge and I really try to write as well as I can. Sometimes I even use a dictionary or thesaurus to improve my forum postings.

How can you help me?

If you want to help me to improve my search capabilities, please give me the search string you used.

If it was a Google search string, please give me a direct link too. Google returns different results in different countries. I have compared the search results I get with the search results of people in other countries. The results differ, even if we use exactly the same search term at the same time. I might not see the same results as you see.

There are more than 5 billion people in this world, please consider, that most of the people don't speak your language.

If you want to meet me on equal terms, try to answer my questions in my native language, which is German by accent and accident. OK, that is a joke (nur wenn Ihre Muttersprache nicht ebenfalls Deutsch ist wink), but as in every good joke, there was a little bit of truth in it.

Think about it.

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Comments

Vectronic Wednesday, September 8, 2010 10:34:54 PM

ok fine...lol... "außer Ihre Muttersprache ist ebenfalls Deutsch", and yes it's true, English is largely based on Germanic languages.

QuHno Wednesday, September 8, 2010 11:35:29 PM

... and French (Celtic) and with a massive influence of Latin (Romanic). Some words are nearer to the old Latin pronunciation, than the basically same words in the Italian language bigsmile

Vectronic Wednesday, September 8, 2010 11:45:20 PM

lol, yeah... English isn't really a language, it's just a cesspool of words from other languages, with the accents removed.

QuHno Thursday, September 9, 2010 1:28:45 AM

Oh, the German language isn't "cleaner" when it comes to that. Every other country was here over the time, in historic times possibly staring with the Romans who founded some of our oldest existing cities, even some Mongols came to "visit", several other countries too, the French were here at least 2 times (numbering the houses started at that time here) the Swedish came to "help" the protestants against the catholics etc. pp. until the latest war where everything was mixed up again.

Luckily we have tourism nowadays so we don't need to declare war upon other countries to visit them. bigsmile

Some examples of "foreign" words in every days use:

Latin: Murus → German: Mauer. The English wall is more "germanic" than the German word but even the old germanic word wal could come from the latin vallum or vallus.

Latin: Fenestra, German: Fenster, English: Window (from ohg.: wind ouuge (uu=w) → wind eye, a hole in the wall)

French: Portemonnaie → German: Portemonnaie, Portmonee, English: Wallet or purse - but we have 'Börse' too (same as purse, sounds even similar, only with a B and a hard Gerrman RRR wink original from the Netherlands AFAIK) but we use that word mostly for the "stock exchange".

This is similar in other languages:
Look at the Spanish language, compare it with Latin and then count the Arabic words, the influence reaches until here despite the fact that they were not here: Our word for number is Ziffer and comes from the Arabic ciph'r what stands for zero (which the Romans didn't know) etc.

All European languages are more or less a mix due to very violent 2000 years of history where millions of people moved from one country to an other and believe me, I don't even understand all German dialects here in Germany - especially some of the alpine dialects are farther away from "high and official" German than the English language ...

BjoernDBjörni Thursday, November 11, 2010 5:32:50 PM

Dein English ist doch sehr in Ordnung ! Doch es gibt nur eine wirklich deutliche Sprache... nämlich Deutsch happy HaHa

QuHno Thursday, November 11, 2010 6:07:47 PM

Nö, Latein p

Und glaub mir, mein Englisch ist gerade mal ausreichend für den Hausgebrauch, aber bei weitem nicht gut. Alleine oben im Text sind mit Sicherheit diverse stilistische und grammatikalische Fehler enthalten, aber das ist gleichgültig, denn darum dreht es sich in dem Text nicht, die Botschaft ist eine andere und sie ist speziell an ein paar ganz bestimmte "Native Speaker" gerichtet wink

Martin RauscherHades32 Wednesday, May 16, 2012 7:21:38 PM

You really stop worrying about your own bad English once you try to talk to some asian in English...

QuHno Wednesday, May 16, 2012 7:36:25 PM

Das hängt immer davon ab, woher aus Asien die Person genau kommt - ich sage nur: Indien yikes

... obwohl es natürlich auch dort genügend Leute gibt, die verständliches Englisch sprechen.

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