Weird fonts in Opera 95
Thursday, 19. June 2008, 11:57:28
Since installing the Opera 9.5, some pages looked different, mainly there was a lot of "Courier New" (monospace, typewrriter) font around. For instance most of the text over at http://acm.timus.ru/default.aspx , was written with this font, when it was a serif font before. At first I thought that they changed the design, since some other things changed at the site at the same time. But checking it out in Firefox showed the same old fonts, so it was obviously something to do with the new Opera.
At first I thought that maybe they changed the default font when none is specified. Some testing showed that this is not the case with pages in "Quirks" mode (without a DOCTYPE), and then I thought about many not well designed pages that depend on the fact that the defaults are this and that, since they don't change anything and they specify everything in pixels. But further testing showed that for pages in "Standards" mode withouth specified fonts it does supply the monospace font.
I have overriden this by making a custom stylesheet for Opera and specifing:
After a restart it looked the same as in firefox.
Note sure if this qualifies as a bug, since as there are no default fonts in the CSS 2.1 specification (the initial value is "depends on user agent"), but it sure is a bit of a weird decision in the new version.
At first I thought that maybe they changed the default font when none is specified. Some testing showed that this is not the case with pages in "Quirks" mode (without a DOCTYPE), and then I thought about many not well designed pages that depend on the fact that the defaults are this and that, since they don't change anything and they specify everything in pixels. But further testing showed that for pages in "Standards" mode withouth specified fonts it does supply the monospace font.
I have overriden this by making a custom stylesheet for Opera and specifing:
html{ font-family:serif; } You can specify the custom stylesheet in the preferences (ctrl+f12) -> advanced -> content -> style options.After a restart it looked the same as in firefox.
Note sure if this qualifies as a bug, since as there are no default fonts in the CSS 2.1 specification (the initial value is "depends on user agent"), but it sure is a bit of a weird decision in the new version.
WIDGETIZE
Matthew # 2. July 2008, 17:04
Donny # 2. July 2008, 19:42
so when you change something, (as shown in my post), you can easily have problems with some sites...
but that should not stop the curiousity
Matthew # 2. July 2008, 19:46
Mugs # 5. July 2008, 15:40
Donny # 5. July 2008, 15:44
but there is the one link in the post - if most of the text on that page is monospaced - then I think it's wrong.
Mugs # 5. July 2008, 19:21
They are specifying Arial, Helvetica, Sans Serif for all table fonts, nothing for text outside of a table. http://acm.timus.ru/style.css
Still though even the 404 page uses Times as its default.
Donny # 5. July 2008, 20:00
maybe this is a problem not everyone has, but I know that a student at my faculty was also experiencing some weird font changes in a beta version of 95.
when I was searching for the problem I have used dragonfly too, and I saw that the site doesn't specify the fonts for the problematic elements, which should mean that Opera reverts to the internal stylesheet, and it said "computed style" font:Courier New. Then I tried the thing with the stylesheet that worked.
Otherwise I have been thru all of the options before that, and to the opera:config too, and could fix the problem.
Angeliki # 10. July 2008, 20:58
I got a msg from Espen yesterday telling me to go ahead and install the 9.5 , my response was:
September + Donny + positive thinking!!
I hope your studies won't be too many and you will help this technologically challenged friend !
Donny # 11. July 2008, 09:17
and this bug with the letters is fixable, and just about the only one I saw, as far as I can recall...
the studies could get a bit intense over the summer. I know it's weird
but ask away
Angeliki # 11. July 2008, 10:50
I hope your intense study will be accompanied with play too!
thanks!
Anonymous # 20. July 2008, 11:09
:)