T stands for Tab
Wednesday, October 19, 2005 2:54:36 PM
There have been a lot of new people in the Forums lately, talking enthusiastically about their switch to Opera. These are people not easily sold on Opera - it took the removal of the ad banner before they even wanted to consider it. So, this is very good news! But some of their comments make it clear, that people switching from tabbed browsers (Firefox, Safari, and in the future IE7) have expectations about how a browser should behave - and Opera is sometimes failing in ways that should be easy to fix.
This is a long introduction to announce a change we want to try out in the upcoming (RSN!) Merlin preview: making Opera's terminology and shortcuts compatabible with 'the other browsers'. So, the word 'Page' is replaced by 'Tab' to describe child windows, for example in 'Tab bar', 'New tab', 'Open in new tab'. At the same time, Merlin introduces the shortcut Ctrl+T (Cmd+T on Mac) to get a new one. Using T for Tab makes it possible for switchers coming from Firefox, Safari, Camino, iCab, Konqueror, and IE 7 to feel right at home from the start. Ctrl+N will now always open a new application window (for the same instance of Opera, such a new window doesn't mean that Opera is started again).
Now, Ctrl+T was already used in Opera to open the 'Bookmark this page' dialog, so that has to change as well. But this is easily solved by using Ctrl+D for bookmarking - another shortcut many switchers were missing. This leads to the last change: the function 'Paste and go' will now take over theCtrl+Shift+V shortcut (a variant of the Ctrl+V 'paste' shortcut) Ctrl+B shortcut.
There are currently no changes planned in the actual operation of Opera - so removing the close button from the tabs will still give you the pure MDI, beloved by many, etc. To get back to the pre-Opera 8 MDI behavior of 'tabs', there are now several settings available in Preferences > Advanced > Tabs and Preferences > Advanced > Browsing. And Opera is of course doing a lot more in Merlin, apart from changing a word and a few shortcuts! Support for new standards, some interesting new goodies for advanced users, lots of fixes to make us more compatible with websites and standards, etc.
The tweakers among us might go back to the old shortcuts, if they like:
Those that do not want to tweak can also download these automatically installing keyboard shortcut files to get the previous defaults back:
Edit 2007-04-17: get updated versions for Opera 9.2
This is a long introduction to announce a change we want to try out in the upcoming (RSN!) Merlin preview: making Opera's terminology and shortcuts compatabible with 'the other browsers'. So, the word 'Page' is replaced by 'Tab' to describe child windows, for example in 'Tab bar', 'New tab', 'Open in new tab'. At the same time, Merlin introduces the shortcut Ctrl+T (Cmd+T on Mac) to get a new one. Using T for Tab makes it possible for switchers coming from Firefox, Safari, Camino, iCab, Konqueror, and IE 7 to feel right at home from the start. Ctrl+N will now always open a new application window (for the same instance of Opera, such a new window doesn't mean that Opera is started again).
Now, Ctrl+T was already used in Opera to open the 'Bookmark this page' dialog, so that has to change as well. But this is easily solved by using Ctrl+D for bookmarking - another shortcut many switchers were missing. This leads to the last change: the function 'Paste and go' will now take over the
The tweakers among us might go back to the old shortcuts, if they like:
- Tools > Preferences > Advanced > Shortcuts
- Doubleclick the 'Opera Standard' keyboard setup
- Type 'n ctrl' in the quick find field
- Doubleclick 'New browser window' and type 'New page'
- Type 't ctrl' in the quick find field
- Delete the 'new page,1' entry
- Type 'd ctrl' in the quick find field
- Change the 'd' in 'd ctrl' and 'd ctrl shift' entries to 't'
- Type 'b ctrl' in the quick find field
- Change the 'b' in 'b ctrl' and 'b ctrl shift' entries to 'd'
- Click OK, click OK
Those that do not want to tweak can also download these automatically installing keyboard shortcut files to get the previous defaults back:
- Eight (includes only the changes as detailed above)
- Seven Five (includes golden oldies like 'Ctrl+G' for User mode and 'P' for print preview)
Edit 2007-04-17: get updated versions for Opera 9.2







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Rijk # Friday, February 10, 2006 12:10:04 PM
sp1nfer # Sunday, February 12, 2006 2:29:51 PM
that's the reason many 'starters' dump opera after 2hrs of usage: 'doesn't have themes so I'm going back to <insert browser of choice>'
Unregistered user # Wednesday, February 22, 2006 11:29:35 PM
slimzky # Friday, February 24, 2006 4:07:13 AM
i completely agree with you... Firefox tab behavior is much better,, Opera sux it it.. this TAB feature must be given attention by Opera developers... they shud change it..
Unregistered user # Saturday, April 8, 2006 10:22:39 PM
korako # Tuesday, June 20, 2006 6:42:49 PM
I hate Ctrl-T! I survived the banners which Opera had until recently, I am extremely happy about your decition to remove tha banner. But for the last 10 days since I installed the Opera9, I keep openening new windows. Every day! And i don't want to adjust!!! Why should I adjust? let the new users adjust, this is the good old Opera i've been using and I somehow feel as if a very close friend of mine entered my home and moved my fridge in the living room and the TV in the kitchen. Stop for a moment and just imagine how would you feel. One more moment.Yes, I can adjust, I can move them back, but why the hell would he do this to me? I thought we were friends. I hope the methaphore is clear enough.
Opera is unique in the way it is and people who come to it should be given a chance to adjust the things they want the way they like them. They are given this chance, more thna in any other browser. That is enought, don't play with what you have.
So my suggestion will be in the official release to preserve the default shortcuts and provide different non-standard keyboard settings for FF or IE users.
And please,PLEASE, don't even think of changing the mouse gestures!!!
Rijk # Tuesday, June 20, 2006 6:57:02 PM
You did read my blog post, right? It's really easy to get Ctrl+N back if you want.
Andrzejnjupas # Sunday, June 25, 2006 8:39:27 PM
Realize, that it is You, who keeps the fridge in the livingroom, and the TV in the kitchen; and it is friends, who try to switch You right!
If You only use Opera, You may go back to Your favourite combination and everybody understands. But if you sometimes visit Your friends, almost all have TVs in the livings and fridges in the kitchens - or other speaking: if You also use another tab-enabled applications, browsers, file managers, integrated development environments for programming - the vast majority of them has this unwritten, but the most popular key combination for "open a new [T]ab".
If there are standards in software, then ctrl+T stands for standard Tab Opener, while ctrl+TAB for standard Tab switcher. And if You switch between them, aren't You confused...?
I came to this VIP site by accident, but as I am here, let me tell You my "message-of-the-month":
@ Rijk, Ejg, All:
Opera Classic. That's what I call music.
I have blogged ( http://my.opera.com/njupas/blog/show.dml/305548 ) about this issue, that every revolutionary thing undergoing evolution (especially so fast) grows up one day, to make the decision for a split; 1: the cutting edge version, and 2: the good-old-fashioned Classic version.
Who has already realized it? (it's not Opera's competition, so I hope it's OK to mention them to help realze the general, cross-branch trend; if not, just cut it away)
Drink Coke Classic has. Car Astra Clasic has. Music player Winamp Classic has. A Polish wafer, Prince Polo Classic also has... I'm sure many more have done also.
I cherish the opinion, that also for Opera, this time has come: Opera Classic.
How I feel about increasing amount of novelties in Opera. I feel terrified. On a laptop, performance is down. Noticeably down. I can't tell You in Percent, but it sometimes takes a few seconds after pressing ctrl+TAB until I get my last Tab to the front. And instead of improvements in existing functionalities (like Mail client operation [show me the messages from last eight Fridays; forward messages from JOB filter to my brother], contact mgmt, RSS handling), we get the water-splashes that empwer us to spend our lifetime on only playing with the tool, instead of focus on the content, we should view with it.
And the premature issue of 9, to test by using or to make forum sites full - a real goooal in the stomach...
But still
Cheerful greetings,
Andrzej / njupas.
CapsLock1 # Monday, June 26, 2006 12:08:20 PM
1) a lot of users uses Ctrl + N by instinct (like in Windows for 25 years Alt+F4, Ctrl+Alt+Del, Alt+Tab). Why there is neccessry made Opera by other software standards (IE, Mozilla etc.) ? In such way Opera loses their unicality. Opera looks as other medium level browsers
2) Ctrl+T in Latvia is default combination for opening local dictionary software Tilde ( www.tilde.lv) So, all latvian users has only one possibility - with mouse click on New Tab icon. By intensive surfing it takes a lot of time. Why use Opera instead other browsers? I don't see any advantages
These 2 things dissapointed me with new Opera
Rijk # Monday, June 26, 2006 2:59:17 PM
Using different shortcuts for the same action is not likely to be a feature that draws new users to Opera.
On a sidenote, using a Ctrl+key shortcut for a system wide shortcut is rather unusual. Lots of applications use Ctrl+T shortcuts. Like, MSIE 7 and Firefox...