Someone mentioned my name...
Sunday, 15. January 2006, 20:43:52
Tsk, I stay offline for a few hours and people tell the strangest things about me...
Fact: I noticed Asa's posting last night when a colleague mentioned it in our closed IRC channel.
Fact: I don't know anything interesting on this subject (not involved with marketing), but I can speculate as well as others.
I can't recall posting to the my.opera forum, but it would have been late at night for me, so who knows what I've forgotten... But if I posted, it could only contain guesswork, so some of the things attributed to me are probably caused by confused readers. Eskil's answer to Daniel is probably the only interesting item here, and maybe someone mixed that up in their minds with posts by olli or me?
As for the 100 million, that is probably a cumulative figure someone calculated, and as all download figures not very interesting, when you can't compare with other apps using the same baseline and counting methods. Usage numbers are more interesting - and not easy to relate to download numbers. Especially not with download numbers of other applications, with different baselines, and different counting methods.
So the comparison Asa makes is speculative and pointless. If we count in Netscape's heritage, the marketshare of Firefox is disappointingly low. Is that saying anything noteworthy? Of course not, that's just crying over spoilt milk.
I wish more Opera and Firefox fans would (re)act like Kelson.
Fact: I noticed Asa's posting last night when a colleague mentioned it in our closed IRC channel.
Fact: I don't know anything interesting on this subject (not involved with marketing), but I can speculate as well as others.
I can't recall posting to the my.opera forum, but it would have been late at night for me, so who knows what I've forgotten... But if I posted, it could only contain guesswork, so some of the things attributed to me are probably caused by confused readers. Eskil's answer to Daniel is probably the only interesting item here, and maybe someone mixed that up in their minds with posts by olli or me?
As for the 100 million, that is probably a cumulative figure someone calculated, and as all download figures not very interesting, when you can't compare with other apps using the same baseline and counting methods. Usage numbers are more interesting - and not easy to relate to download numbers. Especially not with download numbers of other applications, with different baselines, and different counting methods.
So the comparison Asa makes is speculative and pointless. If we count in Netscape's heritage, the marketshare of Firefox is disappointingly low. Is that saying anything noteworthy? Of course not, that's just crying over spoilt milk.
I wish more Opera and Firefox fans would (re)act like Kelson.
WIDGETIZE
olli # 15. January 2006, 22:00
Kelson # 16. January 2006, 01:26
It's been really frustrating, watching people continue to get into flame wars over and over. I suppose it's no worse than the BSD vs. Linux flamewars, or Windows vs. Mac, but there are so many people unwilling to say, "OK, I prefer X and you prefer Y." Sometimes I wonder whether people have taken the whole "evangelism" concept a bit too far.
Anonymous # 16. January 2006, 08:37
A-ha! So you *DO* admit that you could have posted!
We have another conspiracy theory here, people - Rijk posted, deleted that, and Olli covered for him.
What's next? You'll be saying "there is no spoon"? Ha!
Rijk # 16. January 2006, 09:16
Anonymous # 16. January 2006, 09:31
So you acknowledge aliens and the new Opera Matrix AI?
I knew it! And that's why Olli covered for you! Opera is going to take over the world! (Well, it was about time for that.)
SerbianFighter # 16. January 2006, 19:57
troels # 16. January 2006, 20:12