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The meaning of life

Friday, April 3, 2009 2:24:59 PM

Who has ever thought about our life, about the world? Nowadays, we only survive. Our thoughts, plans, aims are linked only with survive, money. But, what if we look at the world as observers and only think, what aim we follow, living in this world? Maybe, each of us has an important mission...

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SUNMIRjustise # Friday, April 3, 2009 4:34:35 PM

Of couse,we have aims & mission.Just for it we must live...
"we mustn't exist,we must live"

SereenSereen379 # Saturday, April 4, 2009 3:09:52 PM

You are right. But do we understand this? Look, what is happening around.
The main aims are money and all the precious things as house, car, etc.
Especially, during period of crisis, the main, painful theme is the lack of money...

SUNMIRjustise # Saturday, April 4, 2009 4:26:35 PM

We're all dreamers..and we try to chase dreams and there is just one problem "MONEY"...but for me money just an expedient for realizing my dreams...

SereenSereen379 # Sunday, April 5, 2009 2:55:13 PM

It's good that for u money is not the main goal to achieve. Anyway, our dreams are without meaning. We want something, but we don't even realize, what exactly we want...

SUNMIRjustise # Sunday, April 5, 2009 4:16:29 PM

Yeah...you're right.I can't deny it..

chanmok # Wednesday, April 8, 2009 7:12:13 AM

"Maybe, each of us has an important mission..." i like that.

Samael Tiamateyemreli # Thursday, April 9, 2009 11:37:23 AM

Salam, qanday siz?

Well, the thing is that, every step human takes is just to reach a better position: eating, studying and generally knowledge, love, marriage, taking rest, and whatever we could think of. This better position would be "a better economical situation" (money, as you mentioned), "a more relaxing position" (love or marriage), or just getting out of being exhausted (that's to rest).

It's sad to see some people thinking about, for instance, only money. But the whole process (life itself) is just to reach a higher stage.

SereenSereen379 # Thursday, April 9, 2009 2:05:04 PM

I like your thoughts. You know, the life that we live, we have chosen ourselves. Because, we just like the students, who after studying theory, must practise it, so do we. We get a lot of experience in this life, in order to understand our theory...

Albert Salihualbee2i5 # Thursday, April 9, 2009 7:40:49 PM

i like dat,every1 has a mission 2 fulfil,dependin on the way we start our jouney towards fulfilim our mission,cos life is hard 4 some people and the lose focus.

Anthony Museatlantis FletcherMuseatlantis # Monday, May 4, 2009 4:33:31 PM

Are we truly in control of our lives or is it the people around us that shape and change our lifes. is there a god and why does he let bad things happen oh yeah sure lets blame satan for bad things but we all know really thats just passing the blame.life is what you and people around you make of it.

Samael Tiamateyemreli # Tuesday, May 5, 2009 5:27:24 AM

But it's not that easy. Is that

ВладиМирPhilosoffer # Friday, May 15, 2009 7:02:50 PM

Most people follow stereotipe,somewhere people lives better,then here,over there the sun is shiner,the sky is bluest,the gras is greener.People fall in to dreaming of atmost lands and get hating land where he live right now.I do belive.Money can't people makes happy.Happiness is a sertain condition of soul.Rich man is who satistfyed property he have right now.I'm glad to meet my neibour! We with my friends used to ride bycicles to Katamjay lakes in Kirgizstan.Wonderfull plases with a virgin nature!

SereenSereen379 # Saturday, May 16, 2009 4:47:53 AM

Thank you philosopher. Yes , Kyrgyzstan is wonderful country. Its mountains, lakes are amazing. Unfortunately , most people don t appreciate that. Yes you are true , the happiness is in us. We have huge responsibility to our life. So we can be happy if just allow to us to be happy.

SereenSereen379 # Saturday, May 16, 2009 4:54:30 AM

Anthony, Eyemreli , of course we shouldn't blame God or Satan for bad things. And you say right, Anthony "life is what YOU And people around make" So , you realize that we are responsible for how living in this life. And we are responsible for choosing happy or nasty life.

Samael Tiamateyemreli # Saturday, May 16, 2009 5:51:56 AM

Well, I still believe it's not that easy. We can't deny the fact that our environment in which we were born and brought up (and we couldn't choose that) has a great influence in formation of our personality, thoughts and goals. Although we change over time, but nobody can choose her/his place of birht.

I've always commented this example: a normal person born in one of those good countries (for living) is talking about success while somebody from Sudan or similar countries is trying to remain alive.

This is the fact that keeps me believing it's not that easy.

SereenSereen379 # Saturday, May 16, 2009 6:57:05 AM

Ok. I also cannot deny that. These are existing facts.
But, we also have the facts which show success of many people, people, who become succesful from the lowest parts of world!
Certainly, life has its own rules and processes, but life itself is very helpful and kind to us. We should trust and allow life enter us, with full love.
The soul is great itself! We are the children of God, therefore we are perfect. But, we choose different parts of world to learn something here, to develop itself as a Soul.

Samael Tiamateyemreli # Saturday, May 16, 2009 10:30:47 AM

Unfortunatley, I don't agree!

We're not perfect

Anyway...

ВладиМирPhilosoffer # Saturday, May 16, 2009 1:09:14 PM

But who said,it will be easy?All depends from the individual human will.Just take effort.Between do and wish to do is a grate difference.Freedom of choise:to owercome oneself and live full life,or to claim it is imposible and complain to life.All individuals is a weaver of own happyness!

Samael Tiamateyemreli # Sunday, May 17, 2009 6:35:23 AM

My problem is that, I don't believe in full freedom of choice. Environment, as I mentioned in my previous post, has a great impact on our decisions and futuer:

'a normal person born in one of those good countries (for living) is talking about success while somebody from Sudan or similar countries is trying to remain alive'.

Or am I wrong?

ВладиМирPhilosoffer # Sunday, May 17, 2009 8:25:31 AM

Yes,informational enviroment makes grate infuence,customs,traditions,stile of thinking,education,ets.But individual,regardless where was born,if he have acsess to information, get complete understanding of world processes.I hope Sudan have internet.

Samael Tiamateyemreli # Sunday, May 17, 2009 11:13:53 AM

You're right

But that's a great 'IF'. When they first brought, for instance, internet, to, for instnace, Sudan, other European or American countries were already enjoying Hi-Tech. Nobody chooses her/his birth place; neither Europeans, nor people from Sudan or similar countries.

ВладиМирPhilosoffer # Sunday, May 17, 2009 6:12:31 PM

I see you standpoint.Sereen,dont we irritates you with ours "wisdom"?(ha-ha).We invite you to joint our "intelectual discussion"group.Eyemreli isn't it?

Samael Tiamateyemreli # Monday, May 18, 2009 8:19:57 AM

You said it Philosoffer. Sorry for giving you headache. We'll hold this in Intellectual Discussions

SereenSereen379 # Monday, May 18, 2009 11:54:32 AM

Hi, Philosopher, Eyemreli,
No. I like your wisdom. :-). It's good that you realize the importance of understanding the life, its process, the individual and discuss. Your every point is important.
By the way, I join your words, Philosopher. The information is very important and necessary part of life.

ВладиМирPhilosoffer # Monday, May 18, 2009 3:00:13 PM

Maybe my self irony somebody hurt.Excuse me for it.Never have in mind.

Chan Mongolchanmok1 # Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:04:40 AM

Sereen, you brought a brilliant one. Paper money is ruining our aim or mission to live a LIFE. Paper money is twisting our minds. Because of too many inventions, phony arts and dazzling things that we are inventing, detached us from the nature. Do we need all those senseless fencies? I guess not. Do we need to tear our skin and put tatoos on it? We are paying attention to unnecessary arts, graphic designs and ghost faces only to stay away real things. I liked when you meant, mountains and lakes in Kyrgyzstan are worth seeing and I understood what 'philosoffer' meant with the word "stereotype". Thank you all.

Chan Mongolchanmok1 # Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:18:53 AM

I am sorry if I hurt anyone by my words. Those arts and catoons are fantacies for children. I don't find realities and good things in them except demonic pleasure of the children. But do children need to practice them? I don't think so! I am hopeful that in coming days, we will avoid such complications for humanity. Who wants to go deep in some madness, in some unreal complexity of stereo type advertisements, designs and arts? Give me a break! Where are the simplicities to live with? Shouldn't we live in 'plain truth'!

ВладиМирPhilosoffer # Tuesday, May 19, 2009 12:11:54 PM

Grate post!Appreciate.

Chan Mongolchanmok1 # Tuesday, May 19, 2009 1:39:23 PM

Thank you, philosoffer.

SereenSereen379 # Tuesday, May 19, 2009 2:25:47 PM

Hi Chan. Thank you for joining us and supporting this point. Cartoons and films are dangerous influence to the growing kids. Children are insecure therefore they quickly absorb all passing information. And of course, growing up, they become evil. There is a lot of influence to us from several individuals, government, society, circumstances. Nevertheless, becoming adults, and able to get necessary information, we should try to protect ourselves from such influence, by listening to our heart, by trusting God, natural life. Always trying to self develop!

Chan Mongolchanmok1 # Tuesday, May 19, 2009 3:22:31 PM

Sereen, You and other good people are most welcome in civic discussions. As long as children remain in the boundary of their parents they remain ok but when they cross that line, they get hypnotized by the outer evil developments. Modern countries won and families got big defeat. Families and individuals are chained in the name of "Citizens" which in reality mean "Slaves." Countries got too much power over the families. One fine president of the United States seperated state from the Church but in the aftermath families got imprisonment by the states.

ВладиМирPhilosoffer # Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:47:53 AM

As well,as we talking about influence of cartoon,i want point out to Disney's "Tom and Jerry".To destructive influence of them.Script is:first enimy Tom beat and humilate hero Jerry,finaly hero Jerry beat and humilate animy Tom.Children make inference:animy is devoted to be beaten and humilated.This idea exsist in adult society:leader of the croud point out the enimy.Then croud beat and humilate "the enimy".Seven beat one,becose "enimy devoted to be beaten".

Samael Tiamateyemreli # Wednesday, May 20, 2009 9:05:34 AM

Regarding a part of the discussion, maybe you'd like to have a glance at Hatred Towards Humans Spread by Western Media.

I really dont' want to advertise, but if we're giving headaches to you, maybe you'd lke to join the new group Philosoffer stated. Intellectual Discussions is 'a Community group whose aims are to stimulate debate, discussion and understanding on philosophical theories, social science, politics, contemporary issues, and other academic subjects'.

Feel free to start your topic of interest anytime by becoming a member

Chan Mongolchanmok1 # Wednesday, May 20, 2009 11:49:43 AM

Philosoffer, very well written. You see, killing is alright for some people and it's "KOSHER". They didn't learn to forgive. Thanks for bringing up the story of Tom and Jerry. This is what the early education of some 'model countries'. Thats how some parts of the world educate their children and they are holding the FLAG of morality! It's crazy! Very strange and confusing signals! Education system in the USA used to be the worst. That's why, most foreign born children or immigrants reached to higher academic achievements there. Sorry to say that America make horse manure, like BUSH but America buys brains from other countries. They used to give away condoms to minors! What a nasty academic system they had! But recently, they started giving too much academic load to their children and making them book worms. I don't know what can happen when someone misses his/her childhood and grow up to be another "Stephen William Hawking"! I think those school boards in the USA are exaggerating with childrens minds.

Chan Mongolchanmok1 # Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:05:42 PM

I don't find anything wrong to bring all those "intellectual tools" in here, in this blog. Let's not break someone's budding! We have to respect a blog owner and try cooperating with her thoughts. The blog owner placed a very intelligent topic here, positively not for a child's game! It is a concern, a matter with the beam of 'intellectualism. Let's not run away from here like cowards rather, bring others to participate.

>>The meaning of life

Friday, 3. April 2009, 09:24:59
Who has ever thought about our life, about the world? Nowadays, we only survive. Our thoughts, plans, aims are linked only with survive, money. But, what if we look at the world as observers and only think, what aim we follow, living in this world? Maybe, each of us has an important mission...<< _______We can bring a lot of juices in here. When reviewed the blog owner, I found that she is a lawyer. She would exactly know the sections of law on 'Solicitation'. Most of all, she doesn't deal with cheap art and emotion. Stealing customers from a friend's store is not a good consideration, is not a nice thing to do. Such persons can't be friends. On the other hand, promoting someone's page is divine! It is called dedication and true friendship.

I wouldn't let anyone come in my domain and dictate in my home to break my family and my peace. Sorry!

Samael Tiamateyemreli # Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:35:28 PM

I don't advertise

Philosoffer mentioned Intellectual Discussions and I thought I'd better insert a link.

Nobody's a coward here

And nobody breaks someone's 'budding'. The fact is that, you can't talk about all these discussions (and similar cases) under one post. That's why I linked you to the group

ВладиМирPhilosoffer # Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:54:15 PM

Nobody and nothing makes me headache,if i insult somebody,beg my pardon for it.

Anthony Museatlantis FletcherMuseatlantis # Wednesday, May 20, 2009 2:37:07 PM

easterners hate the westerners. the westerners love the easterners. maybe its not the way you guys think it is americans and english love the easteners culture

Chan Mongolchanmok1 # Wednesday, May 20, 2009 2:37:31 PM

A little thing got countless molecules. Here, one little post placed by sereen 379 can bring too many avenues to explore.

. eyemreli, thanks for your clarification which is giving better understanding. So, I don't find anymore pollution here. philosoffer, you are liberal which I like most. You said, "nothing gives me headache here". That's very academic and thank you philosoffer!

Samael Tiamateyemreli # Wednesday, May 20, 2009 2:39:41 PM

Chan Mongolchanmok1 # Wednesday, May 20, 2009 2:51:36 PM

Museatlantis, I don't understand why did you bring up that "easterners hate westerners. the westerners love easterners". I don't see any connectivity with the aforesaid BLOG. But perhaps, you may come up with details. Bring it up and let us know what's in your mind, is it hate or is it love to specific zones.Or, is that a bomb to pollute and spread seeds of discrimination. Listen, one thing you must know that there are good easterners and bad easterners and vice versa. Hatred and racial bigotry should have O/ZERRO tolerance among people with civic senses.

Chan Mongolchanmok1 # Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:01:27 PM

eyemreli,

Anthony Museatlantis FletcherMuseatlantis # Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:03:58 PM

you have it wrong i was speaking in terms of politics. i noticed a person made a comment about the media and western hatred and i dont think thats right

Chan Mongolchanmok1 # Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:28:11 PM

What ever it is, if you wanna judge, you should admit that you started a topic without an introduction. But now it is clear. Well, media is a group with handful few peeople only. Their vision isn't parallel to the vision of enormous citizens. Their thoughts can not be conclusive. They don't represent the entire East cost and neither the entire West cost. But they pretend to be so by their big mouths, high salaries and by yellow journalism what they practice. That is wrong with them. For money they hardly touch the truth. They like to twist facts. They earn on the miseries of people. Their perception is very low and unsatisfactory to bring peace and harmony between nations and people. It is OK with me if your comment is not your own thought. You are a bright individual with a lot of potentiality and thank you.

Anthony Museatlantis FletcherMuseatlantis # Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:33:49 PM

i realise that i should have worded it alot better

Chan Mongolchanmok1 # Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:47:52 PM

Museatlantis,

You still can do it more. Please continue about life, paper money, about media and people. I am a good listener.

Sanjeevsanjeevpandey # Thursday, May 21, 2009 5:28:45 PM

Meaning of life! It's a very atypical question that needs to be dealt typically in the way atypical with we humans do our normal things! It questions our existence in this planet and the universe, it challenges our beliefs! Whatever we know in world now are things that already existed, we just realized them and gave them a name. Everything is so relative!

To search and find the meaning of life, one has to take himself out of the plane where we think ourselves in, the meaning of life becomes a question to be asked for all the things present here in the universe, and so, we need to deal with it that way.

To think above the levels of religion, community, society, daily routines. It's actually very difficult to put in words, I can't even make it clear that would serve as absolute! Though, it's a never ending quest, we should be persistent on finding the truth behind it. I hope, I am being coherent with the people present here, so that we can exchange thoughts and views of one and all! Have a good time.

SereenSereen379 # Thursday, May 21, 2009 6:27:05 PM

Hey, what's happening around? Ok, guys, I'm glad that you came to the positive conclusion and agreement to continue here. By the way, after reading your comments, I immediately imagined the hall, where we hold the hot debates about these points. It would be unusual and interesting...

Chan Mongolchanmok1 # Thursday, May 21, 2009 7:25:32 PM

Hi, I am here and didn't leave. I think the blog writer meant if we maintain life for survival or for money or for some mission. Interesting! Life is a movie, starring with ADAM and EVE

. Or, it is formed in the cyclic process of lifeless objects; i.e, from the process of the moon, of the sun, of the countless stars, of the sky, of the cloud, of the water, of the storm, of the mud, of the surroundings, of the male, of the female and so on and so forth. In a nutshell, when a male's sperm fertilizes a female's egg, and the fertilized egg implants in the lining of the uterus a life starts forming. First eight weeks the developement is called 'embryo' and after that called 'fetus', life, a baby and then a grown up life! In the whole process and procedure, 'this being' needs food and must get it to become bigger to turn to be meal for others in the aforesaid process or cycle

. When become big, this individual's mission is to work hard to make Bush people and the people of the QUEEN of England secured and happy.

Chan Mongolchanmok1 # Thursday, May 21, 2009 7:37:39 PM

May be we are here to make sure that the nature around us is secured and balanced and we are here to worship and to appreciate the supreme creator.

But no matter what we do, death falsifies our degrees, our titles, our monarchy, our might, our mission, our life. We have to live here by using our conscience. We shouldn't kill others and hurt others while in the mission to survive.

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