Something Arty
Monday, September 6, 2010 10:04:56 AM
So as i was studying those chapters of graphic design history the other day, i came across something interesting. To me, anyway. We've learned about the greats of graphic design through out the centuries, and on the Bauhaus chapter we learned about Laszlo Moholy-Nagy and Walter Gropius (to name a few- there were like, a million more names!). But just taking these guys as examples. When studying, i usually look up their photos online so i can get a better sense of what they look like and i connect faces to what they did. And what struck me was how normal these people looked! Like, you know nowadays when someone says they're an artist/designer they're almost expected in a way to dress in a bizarre way, or have tattoos scrawled on every inch of their bodies. And expected, i think, because as (modern) artists go, they feel that they're different anyways so they want to express it. Yea sure, i dont have a problem with that at all. But it got me thinking, these pioneers of design, did they ever feel the urge to dress outlandishly, for their time obviously- like saying, 'Ah! Because i am arty i am going to undo my tie and not button my pants!' I dont think so. I think they actually were the true artists, they didnt care about the image thing. They put their heads down, and worked. Today i think the art world is so much based on image- if you dont look cool, or weird, it means you're not a good artist.
I mean, look at these guys:
Laszlo Moholy-Nagy
Walter Gropius
Absolute pioneers! And they looked like normal people!
Of course, times and fashion have changed and the art world has become more fickle but seriously. This whole 'image' thing gets to me at times.
(Oh and my design for the springleap t-shirt thing got approved! yay! voting starts on the 9th- link will most probably follow!)
I mean, look at these guys:
Laszlo Moholy-Nagy
Walter Gropius
Absolute pioneers! And they looked like normal people!
Of course, times and fashion have changed and the art world has become more fickle but seriously. This whole 'image' thing gets to me at times.
(Oh and my design for the springleap t-shirt thing got approved! yay! voting starts on the 9th- link will most probably follow!)














HenrySpicyFlier # Monday, September 6, 2010 11:46:15 AM
Two favourite artistic areas for me are architecture and movies. You have the art of creating a building to express something (Frank Lloyd Wright) and the art of creating a scene for a film (Veniero Colosanti and John Moore - Fall Of The Roman Empire, still considered one of the largest and most lavish film sets ever built; and Grant Major and Richard Taylor and Ngila Dickson - Lord Of The Rings). Their art was (and is) in their heart. Expressions of art for it's own sake, not the current idea of self-promotion. It was all about the medium and it's impact on the people viewing it.
You are right, B, they put their heads down and worked. You work enough, inspiration will come. Pick your artistic inspirators carefully.
Mad Scientistqlue # Monday, September 6, 2010 2:31:00 PM
hmm!aaronwriter # Monday, September 6, 2010 2:50:35 PM
and i don't think you can learn to be a designer, artist, singer etc.
You either have talent or you don't.
School etc. can help you learn techniques to realise your
ideas but you can't learn ideas.
And when you have ideas, you can't even control them,
they keep pouring out, you can't stop yourself.
And they probably don't stop until you're brain dead!
When i first got to europe i went to see buildings by architects i admired.
I went to Glasgow & pissed in the toilet of the Glasgow school of art.
I guess pissing must be a guy thing. And I went up & down all the stairwells.
I visited Sir John Soane's house in London, to see for real
how he used odd windows & mirrors to enter light into rooms.
The list goes on & on...
I liked the feeling of being inside well designed spaces.
I like Bauhaus too.
MConor # Monday, September 6, 2010 3:38:26 PM
Funnily enough, I often get asked why I don't dress like everybody else.
Gavin Tripp-Sheedygarlingmatthews # Monday, September 6, 2010 4:23:07 PM
Those guys were determined to have a proper, academic design college, with deadlines and everything. That may have been reflected in their appearance.
ShallowMuse # Monday, September 6, 2010 4:24:38 PM
MConor # Monday, September 6, 2010 4:26:06 PM
Originally posted by ShallowMuse:
Indeed. As I constantly say, school is geared towards stupid people.
ShallowMuse # Monday, September 6, 2010 4:28:50 PM
MConor # Monday, September 6, 2010 4:29:23 PM
hmm!aaronwriter # Monday, September 6, 2010 4:30:15 PM
if you're really cool, you don't need to tell people,
they'll see you're cool
and i used your own rules to tell you what i thought.
maybe you should take down your rules if only you
are allowed to use them...
ShallowMuse # Monday, September 6, 2010 4:30:49 PM
"So B, how was your weekend?'
"Pretty boring. But i did water my ferns. Did you know..."
MConor # Monday, September 6, 2010 4:30:57 PM
MConor # Monday, September 6, 2010 4:32:02 PM
ShallowMuse # Monday, September 6, 2010 4:33:08 PM
Must...join... that circle! Wait, only if we get to name all the elements on the periodic table first. No compromising!
MConor # Monday, September 6, 2010 4:34:27 PM
hmm!aaronwriter # Monday, September 6, 2010 4:41:11 PM
ferns are examples of fractals, they're so beautiful.
Design wise you should appreciate them.
hmm!aaronwriter # Monday, September 6, 2010 4:45:40 PM
Originally posted by garlingmatthews:
Don't forget Bauhaus was in Germany a very organized country.
And it was closed down by Hitler.
Because it was too radical.
ShallowMuse # Monday, September 6, 2010 4:57:20 PM
MConor # Monday, September 6, 2010 4:58:14 PM
Too bad he was genocidal
ShallowMuse # Monday, September 6, 2010 5:02:30 PM
MConor # Monday, September 6, 2010 5:03:40 PM
hmm!aaronwriter # Monday, September 6, 2010 5:05:25 PM
Gavin Tripp-Sheedygarlingmatthews # Monday, September 6, 2010 5:05:42 PM
I was in the Bauhaus library in Berlin durring the Summer. Some pretty cool stuff, mostly in the shop, because the exhibition was being renovated.
I'm going to go out on a limb here; Hitler was a jerk.
ShallowMuse # Monday, September 6, 2010 5:07:15 PM
Ah i would have loved to go back in time and have been a student at the Bauhaus! Weimar, Dessau, dont care!
MConor # Monday, September 6, 2010 5:07:52 PM
Originally posted by garlingmatthews:
No doubt. A racist bigot who deserved worse than he got. But that doesn't change the fact that he was an excellent leader. If todays politicians could lead like he did, without the hate, the world would be a much better place.
Gavin Tripp-Sheedygarlingmatthews # Monday, September 6, 2010 5:34:18 PM
Absolutely not, Conor. He built a cult around himself. He literally eliminated all criticism. That people like Hitler can gain that level of influence over people is terrifying. Democracy, for all it's flaws, is the only way to go.
hmm!aaronwriter # Monday, September 6, 2010 6:23:36 PM
Originally posted by garlingmatthews:
I agree!But what is sad is, some people vote to lose the right to vote.
MConor # Monday, September 6, 2010 6:41:07 PM
Originally posted by garlingmatthews:
Same could be said about Obama. He literally came out of nowhere.
Originally posted by aaronwriter:
Stupid people who elect people like Bush shouldn't be allowed vote