Shaunak's Universe

What is happening in Gaza is no joke, it is just inhumane and discusting.

There is a big mistake here. Nobody is "innocent". Both Hamas and Israelis have mothers, children, etc. Any nation is responsible for its destiny, included its leadership. Since the beginning of time the guerrilla warfare includes the weak opponent, who can't confront the other side openly, to hide among civilians and then accepting the retaliation and the resulting "collateral damage".

This nation has been established with te help of the western world.
Though I cannot approve of things happening Now, I can understand the still existing and vivid opposition of those whose land has been robbed or whose borders have once again been redrawn.

And how do you think "nations" are born usually?

For example mine was born with the help of the French against the Austrians, the american "revolution" that lead to the indipendence from England was supported by France as well. North Vietnam was supported by China and Russia while South Vietnam was supported by US. Want to speak about Cuba?

Etc, etc, etc...

Right now Israel gets help from US while Hamas, Hetzbollah, etc are armed by Iran, Syria and so on. I guess in the past they were also financed by Saudi Arabia etc.

On a side note:
The Jews took Israel from the original inhabitants with war, the name of Palestine was given to the region by the Romans after they subjugated the Jews and it remained under the roman empire (and formally christian) till the arab invasion following the arab-bizantine wars from about 700AC to 1100AC. After that there were the crusades which were originally intended to re-gain control of the former bizantine territories.

Nothing new.

I was winking to the whole remapping of the African continent by the Western World.

There is no need to climb on a high horse.

And you got the Palestinian point, I noticed.

Actually Africa was colonized by european nations that aren't "western" buth "northern" to Africa. At west there is the ocean and then south America that was colonized as well.

Israel/Palestine is not Africa, it is Asia.
I tried to explain that the region was dominated by many different powers through ages. You go looking on Wikipedia about history of Palestine. The present situation isn't new at all.

Anirudh writes:

The point of war is peace. The point of peace is not harmony, but to prevent war. People will continue fighting due the conflict of self-interests. We all try to convince people to live for themselves, but when their goals in life are obstructed by somebody else's there is little choice save or conflict.

This will go on, and on and on. Aggressive Nationalism is another thing I noticed, I somehow still feel this runs deep through everyone's veins, Somebody needs to flush it all out.

War is a primitive, barbaric, uncivilised way to solve a dispute. There has to be discussion, compromise and solution.

I don't think "Aggressive nationalism" is a good thing. Most countries engage in propaganda (self adulation), if they didn't there would not be any people wanting to serve in the armed forces. Idealistically individuals should have the freedom to live in peace wherever they choose.

I have to wonder if this attack on Gaza by Israel is opportunistic, what with the US sitting on the fence whilst in Presidential limbo.

I hope they can end the conflict peacefully