Suntana's Blog Trek

Wasted Days and Wasted Nights

And Wasted Days again. By the way, did I mention Wasted Days? My last Post was my Fourth of Jul-Aiy Aiy Aiy Caramba! Post, which I wrote on the day after. Those of y'all who read that Fourth of July adventure will recall that I spent it, wasted it performing 2 Windows Reinstalls on my computer because things didn't go favorably. Then as bad luck would have it, that following Wednesday, my computer Crapped Out again and I had to perform a 3rd Windows Reinstall in the span of 8 days the following weekend. bomb knockout

Have y'all ever had a day whereby nothing, I mean NOTHING goes right? You know … the kind of day whereby even if you performed the equivalent of a Reboot on your day, you'd still get a Blue Screen with some indecipherable error message. I'm talking the kind of day whereby you would need the equivalent of a Windows Reinstall on your day in order to get it out of FUBAR mode. If anyone is not familiar with the term "FUBAR," just inquire in a Comment and I or someone else will be glad to explain.

I loosely had my Saturday planned out. I was going to my friends' place to perform that periodic computer maintenance, Anti-Virus Scan, SUPERAnti-Spyware Scan, Etc. for them. While there, I was gonna help this guy install one of those Refrigerated Air Window Units. The guy that lives there works the graveyard shift so he got there around the time the other guy and I were gonna handle that theoretical EASY task of installing that Window Unit. We told my friend to go ahead and just get some sleep. We would handle the Child's Play task. It would virtually be like taking candy from a baby, right? Granted, it was one of the BIGGER Refrigerated Air Window Units that you'll find. But, still … C'mon! How many guys does it take how much time to install one of those units?

By all accounts and my calculations, the computer maintenance and Window Unit installation would be completed no later than Noon and I'd be back home. I would then engage in writing my Post. Keep in mind, we started at 9:00AM.

Anyway, back to the story. I proceeded to engage in some multi-tasking. I was switching around between the computer maintenance, cutting weeds and helping out my Chief Partner in Disaster. bigeyes Oops! yikes I mean, my Chief Partner in Handyman Engineering. That guy is normally one of the Best Handyman you'll want handling a task like this. Since that Window Unit was pretty BIG, Handyman Guru Dude decided he was going to build a Stand to place under the Window Unit for support. So, he was measuring and cutting boards and I was helping nail the precisely-engineered pieces. We quickly noticed we were going to run out of boards. scared Whoa! WTF? How'd that happen? Luckily we noticed some old stairs for the mobile home lying around. The plan changed to attaching the Stand to those Stairs.

More Master Carpenter-like measuring, cutting and nailing ensued. The Stand was pretty much ready. Suddenly I notice, "Whoa! What's this? Why is the Window Unit THIS width and the Stand is only THIS width?" Handyman Dude goes, "I don't know." I go, "You MUST have gotten that measurement from somewhere." He goes, "Yeah, but I just don't remember." bigeyes lol So, we had to improvise and tack on some support blocks to make up for the 6-inch width deficit. o

With the sturdy Fortress-like Stand now complete, in place and capable of supporting Godzilla if need be, it was time to install the Window Unit. There was a little bit of assembly required, which as most guys will do, we attempted to do it left right without the instructions. whistle They sucked anyway. One part just didn't make sense as to how it was supposed to be attached. So, we drilled some friggin' holes in the unit and attached the Fugger. Take THAT! headbang A lot of meticulous leveling ensued. After seemingly an eternity, we were finally ready to fire up that baby … that BIG Baby and feel the Antarctica Cool air! We go to plug it in and notice the Plug is NOT the normal Plug that usually goes in the typical house wall outlet. yikes WTF? Shit! Okay, calm down. No problem. So, maybe we'll just buy an Adapter. Then we scrutinized the Plug and the User's Manual and realize the Window Unit is a 240-Volt Unit … NOT a 120-Volt Unit! Major Fugg Up! furious

With the inside of the mobile home a Mini-Furnace, we had 2 options. We'd either have to install a Heavy Duty 240-Volt extension … or we had to take out the Unit and exchange it for a 120-Volt model. Ohhhhh! I forgot to tell y'all. Just minutes earlier, we had already shred the box the Unit came in … to pieces! scared How the Fugg would we now be able to exchange the Unit at Walmart now? nervous My friend managed to somehow convince Walmart to exchange it without the box. yes

My friend and I went to Walmart. We wanted a Unit slightly bigger than a smaller one, which he had installed earlier in the week in another room. The only ones we saw there, my friend said they were the same as that small one. So, we just returned the Big Sucker and got the price credited back to the Credit Card. We then went to Lowe's Home Improvement. The biggest Unit we found was around the same size as the one we had just seen at Walmart, but for $5 more. My friend wanted to take it. I reminded him, "But, don't you want to get the one at Walmart because with your friend's Discount Card, you get a 10% Discount?" That would be a $30 savings. So, we drove back to Walmart. With the way our day had gone, guess what? We never did find my friend's Walmart contact to get that 10% Discount. We had seen him just minutes earlier, but now that we needed the 10% Discount, no one knew where he was. My friend had to purchase the Unit at full price.

We got back to the mobile home and proceeded to install the 2nd Window Unit for the day. The instructions sucked and we couldn't figure out where these 2 plastic thingies went. We just knew it was supposed to be done with the guts of the Unit taken out. WTF? Why is one supposed to Fugg around with opening up a Unit before installing it? Why isn't this Crap ready to be installed? We said, "Fugg It" and meticulously leveled the Unit. It was time to fire up the 2nd Unit for the day. We turned it on and immediately heard this, "Wah Shahgah Shahgah Shahag Sheenwah Shakah!" WTF? We turned it off. We inspected everything. We tried varying the incline level. We took the Sucker apart. Another eternity later, the verdict was that the Unit was defective. The Fan was rubbing on the housing. Son of the BEACH!

We had no choice, Handyman Dude and I proceeded to take out that 2nd Unit and pack it back up. My friend rushed off to Lowe's Home Improvement to purchase a 3rd Window Unit. This was beginning to appear comical. We even wondered if the neighbors weren't laughing at us. lol

My friend arrived with the 3rd Window Unit. Would the 3rd Time Be the Charm? My friend and I proceeded to take the Unit out of the box. I immediately noticed some of the opening fins on the case were bent and it had 2 slight dents on top. I was like, "I don't believe this Shit! LOOK! Can we get a friggin' break today?" With the heat unbearable, my friend decided as long as the Unit worked properly, the heck with the blemishes on the case. By that time, I had a short fuse. I proceeded to with some scissors, carefully cut the plastic bag, which contained the User's Manual. I try to pull it apart and realized the seal was still further down. Losing it, I blurt out, "Is ANYTHING going to go right today?" furious The others were like, "What? What happened?" I go, "I can't even cut a plastic bag correctly! Nothing has gone right for us today. Not even something as simple as cutting open a plastic bag. Sheesh!"

We performed the usual leveling bit of the unit. By now it was more difficult because the original design and size of the Stand, which was supposed to facilitate the install of the 1st Unit, fit neither the 2nd nor this 3rd Unit, which were both smaller. Nevertheless, the 3rd Unit for the day was now installed. We plugged it in. We powered it up.
Drum Roll … Trrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr … PISH! It worked! It hummed smoothly, nice & quiet! yes happy

Whew! So, back to the original question: How many guys does it take how much time to install one of those Units? Considering we started at 9:00AM and it was now left right … Uhhh, 7:00PM, it on some level took 4 guys 10 hours to install a Window Unit. o Heyyy! Wait a minute! Before y'all laugh hysterically, that WAS THREE Units, Okay? bigsmile Plus, in that time, lunch break and waiting while 2 subsequent trips were made for purchases of the 2nd and 3rd Units. And 2 of those 4 guys were part time help, whenever they were available here and there. Still a LOT of time! What a DAY!knockout

The bright side is that I immediately knew what my Blogging topic was going to be.

Fourth of Jul-Aiy Aiy Aiy Caramba!Suntana’s Blog Trek 1-Year Anniversary

Comments

PainterWoman Sunday, July 19, 2009 10:00:04 PM

bigeyes faint I'll bet you were all exhausted after that. What a day!

I've had bad days where nothing went right but nothing like this. Using the stair steps as part of the support perch was funny but very innovative. 'You gotta use what you got' is my motto.

Did you at least get a beer or two after all that?

LanaBanana Sunday, July 19, 2009 10:06:55 PM

Carlos, between windows on your computer and windows to put an AC unit in - I'm thinking you should steer clear of all big "W's." scared I'd stick to doors. smile

SummerAngel Sunday, July 19, 2009 10:18:31 PM

You are persistent Sunny. I definitely want someone like you for any difficult task. yes

L2D2 Sunday, July 19, 2009 11:01:26 PM

lol I can see it now---Chuck hopping up and down over not being able to get a user manual out of a plastic bag! After all the other fubars, commotion, and patience-on-trial shenanigans and you decide to snap on that?

My night went pretty much like that, it certainly didn't take as long though. Panic attacks are not good for me and that scare did me in. But, sweeting, it wasn't funny at all.

I enjoy so much the way you are able to make funny stories out of mundane, if frustrating, happenings. Another winner, Chuck, cause I have been sitting here LMBO at your expense. yes

Got to try and get to bed early tonight because have to get up early and go to the zoo tomorrow. Hope I can get good pictures.

BTW, how soon can you get to my place to help install a window unit in my bedroom window? lol

Suntana Sunday, July 19, 2009 11:31:04 PM

Yes, Pam, I WAS exhausted by the end of the day. I could feel myself moving more slowly, especially when reaching down to pick up all the tools and junk at the end. I'm a little bit sunburned in the back of my neck. At least that's where I feel some slight itching. I was also no doubt dehydrated. I really didn't drink much water during the day. I only drank lemonade at lunch. Oh, while I didn't get beer, as I don't drink anymore, we did have Turkey / Chicken Tacos and Refried Beans for lunch and Hamburgers & Fries for dinner.

Yeah, the Stairs converted to AC Unit Stand ... sounds and LOOKS Redneck-ish and / or Green Acres-esque. lol

When I got home, the rest of the evening, I just kept drinking water. Right now my thighs are a bit sore.

Suntana Sunday, July 19, 2009 11:43:47 PM

You might have a point, Lana. There IS a Windows connection there. scared

You know what complicated things? I don't know if you're familiar with how mobile homes are made, but they are made very cheaply and cheesy-like and any place, anyway they can save a penny, they WILL. Thus, nothing that should be straight is straight and nothing that should be square is square. Consequently, when trying to install something in a mobile home while utilizing carpentry and geometry rules of straight and square ... just doesn't work. For example, the User's Manual stated that once the 2 side curtain things were flush up against the window sides, the correct angle of backward incline was achieved. Ah Hmm. RIGHT! Getting those 2 curtain things to be flush on on mobile home window ... I think we would have had better luck overhauling the Space Shuttle. lol

Suntana Sunday, July 19, 2009 11:46:32 PM

Okay, Annette, you've got yourself a deal. I'll handle any difficult task you throw at me, with one stipulation. Anytime plastic bags need to be opened ... YOU open them. Okay? jester

Suntana Sunday, July 19, 2009 11:50:33 PM

Graham, the sayings goes that, "We learn by our mistakes." I think after that Saturday, we ARE the AC Installation Engineers you'd need. lol

Welcome to my Blog, Graham! party cheers

Suntana Monday, July 20, 2009 12:14:02 AM

Peppermint, by the time the Scissors Incident came about, it was probably already a numbers game. The Straw that broke the Camel's Back was already set in place. Anything that went wrong at that point was probably going to make me lose it. What really set me in that Pre-Going Berserk mode was those damn Frame Guide Thingies, which we could NOT figure out what they were for or how to install them to save our lives. We had the instructions in front of us, but they and the illustrations sucked big time. We couldn't figure out what they were conveying.

And well, it's a defeating, insulting slap in the face when one can't even cut open a plastic bag. bomb

Glad you enjoyed the story, Peppermint. See? It was worth me missing a Post last week. Having y'all Laughing Yer Butts Off at My Expense was the objective. As I've alluded to before, I keep y'all my readers in mind as I'm writing. I try to write my adventures in such a way that hopefully y'all will get a great entertaining kick. yes

Alright! You want me to install a Window Unit in your ... Mobile Home? My expertise! Music to my ears. sing Talk about serendipity. What about your collapsed floor? You want me to fix that as well? It might take 3 shots at it and 10 hours, but it MIGHT get fixed. right

Pat Jpatbiv Monday, July 20, 2009 4:39:49 AM

Geez! Unbelievable, mighta' been a comedy of errors, but sounds like it turned out great. I'm afraid I'd have quit after the first one. AC is a must here in AZ. We had one of our whole house units go out a year ago and had to get a new one put in... after the "professionals" caused the closet ceiling to flood and cave in and a few other misshaps with the install... Who really are the pros. I think I'd rather have had someone like you install the unit.yes

L2D2 Monday, July 20, 2009 5:00:40 AM

Got the leak fixed, Chuck, but haven't got the floor patched yet. I think I will get Graham to do that----he is an expert with floors, especially ceramic tile floors. I believe he would be the perfect person to fix my dissolved mobile home floor. Just hope I don't fall through and break a hip or leg before then, though.

Still looking for header flower but not in a hurry so not going to worry too much.

Calvin installed the window unit I have in my living room, and he is so meticulous that it is done very well-----put in a metal frame in the window sill to support the thing and it is not on any kind of stand.

The instructions are probably translated from Chinese and their translators turn out like Babel Fish or Google translators----you end up scraching your head and saying "What the heck does this mean?" Actually, Chinese-translated- into-English translations are often hilarious and would make a pretty good blog post on their own merit.

KimberlySqueakeyCat Monday, July 20, 2009 10:17:00 AM

lmmfao, sun. glad you finally got things together correctly

L2, i agree with you

Darkogdare Tuesday, July 21, 2009 7:04:06 AM

OMG, I would probably give up after the second one and try again towmorrow. There are days like this when it is better to stay in bed left

As for your Windows installation, I think it may be some hardware problem you are facing. Either that or some application is messing around...

L2D2 Tuesday, July 21, 2009 7:07:55 AM

Nah, Dare, it's just his dinosaur-age equipment---useful back when Noah was young and he used a computer to build a prototype of the Ark after God gave him the specs for it. He sold that computer to Chuck. Myhahahahah

Darkogdare Tuesday, July 21, 2009 7:14:37 AM

faint

L2D2 Tuesday, July 21, 2009 7:18:32 AM

lol lol p

KimberlySqueakeyCat Tuesday, July 21, 2009 7:45:18 AM

lol

Suntana Tuesday, July 21, 2009 2:01:03 PM

Yes, Pat, "Comedy of Errors" did cross my mind during and after this unbelievable Buffet of BS Bumbling 1-day episodes. I'm surprised there were no incidents while eating the Tacos and Hamburgers ... like maybe knocking over the pitcher of lemonade and drenching everyone's laps. yikes

Actually, the way the day went, there WAS one more thing. I Semi-FUBARed the pants I was wearing. Ehhh, it was already an old pair of 501 Jeans with the denim in the knee area weak and worn. Well, with all the kneeling on the rocks outside and on the carpet inside, by the time I realized it, the 501's Right Knee had a HUGE Rip across. bigeyes I didn't even see it happen. It was just suddenly there. My knee was getting a tad irritated, so I looked down and realized, "Ohhh! It must be because of this Grand Canyon Rip on my 501's knee. I think I'll almost assuredly have to make Shorts out of them. bigsmile When a Saturday gives you Lemons ... you have to make Lemonade. cheers

Suntana Tuesday, July 21, 2009 2:15:14 PM

Glad you got the leak fixed, Peppermint! headbang Yes, I did kinda read that Graham is apparently the Floor Expert of the Stars.p

Did Calvin make the Metal Frame for the Window Unit or where did it come from? Does he normally carry a spare Metal Frame in his car's trunk? bigsmile

You're probably right about the Instructions Translations. My youngest sister used to work for this Japanese company. Sometimes they'd just up and get the few employees there to help with the translation of User's Manuals from English to Spanish. Keep in mind, the English versions were probably already badly translated from Japanese to English. So yeah, you can imagine the final translation versions were no doubt these inconsistent, NON-Masterpieces. lol It was bad enough that the employees were NOT Official Translators. Throw in that they were NOT Technicians and Wooooooo! How were they supposed to translate Techese into something coherent? scared

SummerAngel Tuesday, July 21, 2009 5:37:43 PM

You got a deal Sunny. I will handle all plastic bags that need opening...and you do EVERYTHING else. lol

L2D2 Tuesday, July 21, 2009 6:21:18 PM

Like the way you plagiarized the name of this post from my favorite Mexican singer, Freddy Fender.

MettePusilille Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:43:51 PM

yikes IM-Smiley.com
What a day!! I think you need to stay home next time! Don`t get out of the door! bigeyes You might get tempted to try stuff/things that gets troubelsome....again...you know bug
I am glad my little spot in the world NOT brings me days like that lol lol bigsmile

Suntana Tuesday, July 21, 2009 10:22:42 PM

Darko, the immediate thought usually is and WAS in this case, to call it a day after the 2nd failure and continue the next day. But, we felt bad about just leaving them like that with the unbearable HEAT. Granted they did have the small working Unit in their bedroom and their little daughter could have gone to sleep in there as well, as she used to not too long ago. But, that left the whole Living Room, Kitchen and Dining area like a furnace. So, we decided to give it one last 3rd try. If we had failed a 3rd time, we WOULD have called it a day ... especially since it WAS almost Night. lol

Yeah, Darko, my 8½-year old computer no doubt does have Hardware issues. I'm sure stuff here and there isn't what it used to be back in its heyday. Maybe the Hard Drive has arthritis cuz Windows just gets glitched too easily now.

Darkogdare Tuesday, July 21, 2009 10:25:57 PM

Originally posted by Suntana:

Maybe the Hard Drive has arthritis



Or RAM has Alzheimer lol

PainterWoman Tuesday, July 21, 2009 10:31:30 PM

Yes, I have arthritis....and possibly the beginnings of Alzheimers.

Darkogdare Tuesday, July 21, 2009 10:35:13 PM

Pam, your PC too? scared

PainterWoman Tuesday, July 21, 2009 10:42:04 PM

Yes, my hard drive is slowing down and making creaking noises every time I move and it's always forgetting where I put my car keys. lol

Suntana Tuesday, July 21, 2009 10:43:04 PM

Speaking of Wasted Days and FUBAR ... I VERY seriously flirted with that a while ago. scared I did some Googling to see if I could find anymore -- Speed Up Windows XP -- Tips that I hadn't tried. I did find a site with some never before seen Tips. I performed the Settings changes described in the Tips. I had immediately been leery about the one that said to Kick the Paging File to the Curb. But, I did it anyway, reasoning that maybe I just didn't understand how the benefit would come about.

The requisite Reboot was done. Immediately, I encountered a "Low Virtual Memory" message. WTF? That was NOT good, considering I had NOT loaded anything yet. Trying to stay calm, I went, "Okay, so failed experiment. I'll just change the Settings back." I did the Key sequence to get to the particular Window with the Settings. I encountered an error. irked Repeated attempts to get to that Settings Window or the Control Panel, were NOT working! yikes

Now officially concerned, bordering on Panic, I went, "Okay, so I'll try my 1st System Restore ever." The System Restore did NOT even want to load. I got an error message saying that I did NOT have enough Virtual Memory to perform that. no GULP! nervous NOW I was officially panicked! AOL wouldn't load. Nothing much was working.

While literally sweating from worry of what I had done, I pondered what to do next. Out of desperation, I tried clicking on the System Icon in the Control Panel one last time. It WORKED! bigeyes I set the Settings back, but then the process hung. bomb I tried clicking on System Restore again and this time THAT also worked. yes I implemented the System Restore function and was HUGELY relieved when I read that it had gone Successfully!

Woo Hoo! Saved by the Bell! Saved by System Restore! yes headbang

PainterWoman Tuesday, July 21, 2009 10:47:14 PM

Carlos, you are a very persistent person. I think I would have given up and stopped using the pc completely. I wouldn't have known all the things to do that you have done.

Suntana Tuesday, July 21, 2009 10:49:27 PM

Originally posted by gdare:

Or RAM has Alzheimer


jester There you go, Darko!
Yes, my computer apparently has THAT too.

Suntana Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:01:37 PM

Peppermint, while in the middle of my disastrous adventure on Saturday, I already knew what my Blog Post was going to be about. Before it was even over, I was already tossing around possible Titles. Some that crossed my mind were:
Wasted Days & Wasted Days
But, then I remembered that I also wasted 4th of July NIGHT.

The Thing The Thing That Wouldn't Die

Those were in reference to John Carpenter's movie The Thing.

And a couple of others that now escape me.

Suntana Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:08:49 PM

Mette, hindsight is always 20/20. We just have to face the fact that here and there, there will be days like that. We always go afterwards, "Man! I almost didn't go. I almost did something else instead." But, once it's done and the disaster has transpired ... at least it makes for easy Blog Topic choosing. lol

Suntana Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:20:25 PM

Pam, the only reason I didn't cross over into full-blown TURBO Panic is because I knew that I at least still had my other computer, the 8½-year old Windows 98SE Gateway in working condition.

That's right. The computer that I almost FUBARed today was NOT my Noah's computer that Peppermint mentioned. It was actually my HP Pavilion Windows XP one. NOT that that one is really that much younger. lol It's just New to ME, but it WAS given to me USED.

Interestingly enough, one of the experimental things I had done to increase performance on the computer this afternoon, was to as per the website Tips, remove that familiar Windows XP LOOK. Supposedly that would be a LOT of memory saved that could be used elsewhere. Now after the System Restore, I got the Windows XP LOOK back. Now it's staying. I'll leave THAT experiment alone. Nnnnggg, NOT that after my fear subsides, I won't be back up to my ole experimental tricks. jester

L2D2 Wednesday, July 22, 2009 4:54:43 AM

And, Mr. Chuck, who taught you about System Restore? Huh?

Agneta MuhrAgnetaM Wednesday, July 22, 2009 9:28:02 AM

Well, we all have days like that in different kinds Chuck!
The Crazy Norwegian have them every time he comes near the computor!! I think he still is to much viking for modern things!lol lol
Myself I have a kennel wich belong to a friend to babysit! Yippe!! I spend Last night chasing a dachshound all over!cry cry

Suntana Wednesday, July 22, 2009 12:56:38 PM

I was already aware of System Restore's existence, but had never used it. But, yes, it was YOU, Peppermint, who kept drilling it in that if something went seriously wrong with Windows XP, be it via MY doing o or all on its own ... to perform a System Restore instead of a Windows Reinstall.

Consequently, I guess you can share some of the credit with System Restore for saving the day, Peppermint. up The interesting thing is that one of the Tips mentioned in that site for increased performance was disabling System Restore all together. bigeyes It said System Restore was a Memory Hog. As it turned out, System Restore was one Fugging useful thing ... something that Microsoft did right. I'm beginning to wonder if that wasn't some rogue site. I mean, how could one of the Tips have crippled my computer like it did?

KittyliciousZaphira Wednesday, July 22, 2009 5:51:54 PM

Oh man, computers can take so much of your time. awww
I wouldn't do without my computer, but it just has to work. *nods* No negotiation, like "I want more RAM" or "I want a new CDdrive"! It. Just. Has. To. Work. *Period*

bigsmile

L2D2 Wednesday, July 22, 2009 7:25:08 PM

That tip was correct, Chuck, remember, in that by turning System Restore off, you gained a lot more disk space to play with. But the kicker to that is that you turn it back on so you can use System Restore if need be.

Turning it off erases a build up of restore points, but you need to turn it back on as soon as those old restore points are erased.

It will start building up restore points again as soon as you turn it back on, but you can clean it out periodically to regain that disk space. So the tip was at least half right.

Darkogdare Wednesday, July 22, 2009 7:31:02 PM

In my experience, System restore doesn't work in all the cases. So, instead, I am using Symantec Ghost for making images of system partition. Or any other imaging tool can do the job. Once you set your operating system to work, make an image, store it to another partition/hard drive/external drive and in any accident you can restore it to the state it was at the moment you`ve finished installation. Depending on age of a PC, you will need between 5 and 15 minutes for restoration. Of course you will need to update antivirus and you will probably lose few files and mails (unless you backed them up), but everything is better than reinstalling all over again faint

Suntana Wednesday, July 22, 2009 8:13:50 PM

We all concur, Zaph. Our computers just HAVE to work - PERIOD! It's like, if our TVs or Microwave Ovens or other stuff goes Kaput, Okay, we of course don't like that and we'll be irritated. But, when our computers have a problem, it is a Major RED Alert ... time to send out the Bat Signal ... Houston we have a problem ... PANIC! scared

Suntana Wednesday, July 22, 2009 8:19:49 PM

So, the Crazy Norwegian is a Computer Destroyer, Agneta? Tell him he's got to use a Mouse ... NOT a Viking Sword. lol

Chasing a Dachshound all over the place just about sounds a little bit better than that temporary panic yesterday when my computer got that Furball caught in its throat for a couple of frightening minutes.

Agneta MuhrAgnetaM Wednesday, July 22, 2009 8:22:33 PM

Have you ever chased a dachshound Carlos???? You should try it!!cry cry cry

I cant tell my Crazy Norwegian anything when he sits by the computor!! I just run far far away!!lol

Suntana Wednesday, July 22, 2009 8:34:41 PM

Yep, Darko, I've read that System Restore is NOT a cure all. It won't necessarily bail us out of ALL disastrous situations.

However, that bad situation into which I inadvertently got my computer yesterday, I'm NOT sure even Symantec Ghost would have worked. You see ... it's that temporarily, for some reason, NOT much was able to be loaded. I WAS able to open up an MS Word Doc. But, anything remotely requiring a nice chunk of RAM, would give me an error. So, it's probable that Symantec Ghost would have also given me an error as soon as I tried to load it, just like when initially, trying to load System Restore would give me an error. Had things not started working on their own when they did, my next plan was to Boot Up in SAFE Mode and see if I could fix things that way.

I think my older brother has Symantec Ghost and has even used it. He has Norton 360, which I THINK might have that Ghost App. Recently his computer got screwed up when he tried to install a Wireless Mouse. He said he finally used something "like" System Restore, but NOT exactly. I never understood at the time to what he was referring. But, now that you mention Ghost, I think that might have been what he used to Unscrewup his computer.

L2D2 Wednesday, July 22, 2009 9:05:37 PM

I hate Symantec. Norton antivirus just hijacks a computer and takes over its operation. And it take gargantuan efforts to wipe it out of your computer system, even after you have used removal tool. After two years, I am still finding bits and pieces of Norton in my computer. It's like a virus itself as far as I am concerned.

And I had an app one time Called SystemMechanic7, that after awhile took it upon itself to obliterate apps it didn't deem useful and in the process deleted some things I needed.

And they are so bad about growing and growing till they slow down a pc so badly, it stinks. I just uninstalled my antivirus on one of my pcs because it was slowing it down so much. Amazing how much more speed I had after I uninstalled the program. Need to find something smaller and lighter.

Suntana Wednesday, July 22, 2009 11:19:38 PM

Uh Oh! I wonder if Darko's going to declare that them is Fightin' Woyds, Peppermint. Insult Symantec, will ya? He'll challenge you to a knight Sword Duel ... or since Darko is into Martial Arts, a Martial Arts Anything Goes Knock Down Drag Out! ninja

My brother seems to love that Norton 360 and has always used the other Norton products. Whatever works for him. I guess he must have a pretty powerful and speedy computer to be able to handle the Memory Footprint of Norton. It has as many Detractors as it does Faithful Users.

Was it AVG you had to uninstall? I'd recommend you my trusty ole avast, but I know you don't like it. The only other Big Boys Freebie Anti-Virus is Avira. It's been quite a while since I've read the Pros & Cons on it. I can't be certain, but it's possible that the FREE version doesn't have Real Time Scanning, only On Demand. But, I'd have to verify that.

L2D2 Thursday, July 23, 2009 2:00:32 AM

Well, I didn't dislike Avast, it just ticked me off because it got it into its cyber head that my Print Artist software was a worm or a trojan, and just would not let go. I even went to their support and got instruction on how to use hijack this to get rid of the virus----which it couldn't because none was there!----don't know what to do with a stubborn anti-virus that insists on trying to remove my printing application because it thinks it is a worm. False positive. Kept throwing up all these huge stop! you have a virus! your pc is going to die! warnings.

L2D2 Thursday, July 23, 2009 2:01:48 AM

maybe I will just use firewall and Windows Defender and leave it at that.

Suntana Thursday, July 23, 2009 3:29:47 AM

Peppermint, you can easily tell avast or pretty much any other Anti-Virus to IGNORE whichever Malware it thinks it found. From then, it'll never bother you.

Also when you find a situation like that, what the Experts at the avast Forum suggest is that you test the alleged Virus at this site called Virus Total or something like that. The Virus basically gets scanned by a whole mess of the Biggies Anti-Virus Search Engines. If no other Search Engine besides avast acknowledges the Virus, then you can tell avast and they'll most likely take it off the list on the next Update. But, if so much as another Search Engine acknowledges the Virus, then avast will stick to their guns. I've used this before with 2 AOL Files that avast would claim to be Adware Generators. avast immediately took one of them off the list, but the other one took some more time before it was removed from the list.

Pat Jpatbiv Thursday, July 23, 2009 3:36:56 AM

I know I'll get flack for this... but our remedy back in the 80's was to get a Mac, actually an Apple at the time. And we just haven't had many problems since, except for maybe companies not equally addressing programming needs equal to those available on Window machines. OK OK. I'm go back to just reading now.

Suntana Thursday, July 23, 2009 3:42:50 AM

Peppermint, I just did a quick search and I don't think Windows Defender is really an Anti-Virus. It's more like an Anti-Spyware.

Besides, I think I may have found your solution. Okay, you have High Speed Internet. Who is it with? As far as I know, just about all High Speed Internet Providers PROVIDE a FREE Anti-Virus of their choice. It might not necessarily be active when you initiate the Service, but if you inquire at their Customer Service, they should be able to get you hooked up. The friends at where I was Saturday, they have Roadrunner High Speed and it provides FREE CA Internet Security Suite. My neighbors have AT & T DSL and they just got switched from FREE Norton to FREE McAfee. As a matter of fact, my AOL gives me FREE McAfee. It would only support the Windows XP in my Pavilion ... NOT the Windows 98SE in my Gateway. But, I'm now very leery of McAfee since the Bootup problems it gave my Gateway some years back. So, at this time, I don't want to install the FREE McAfee into the Pavilion.

I'm willing to bet that you DO have FREE Anti-Virus available to you from your High Speed Internet Provider, Peppermint. Whether it is installed and activated or not, is a different question. Call their Customer Service ASAP.

If you find that they DO provide you a FREE Anti-Virus, make sure you no longer have any other Anti-Virus installed in your computers. You don't want 2 Anti-Viruses conflicting.

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