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All hail the what now?

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Yesterday I was talking to my friend and in the course of our conversation I sent her this link. She laughed her ass off and forwarded it to a few people from her contact list. The reaction of one of them was immediate. "I know all about it, I'm a Discordian myself, it rocks! Hail Eris!".

Yesterday I was talking to my friend and in the course of our conversation I sent her this link. She laughed her ass off and forwarded it to a few people from her contact list. The reaction of one of them was immediate. "I know all about it, I'm a Discordian myself, it rocks! Hail Eris!".

This made me think about religion in general. I've been an agnostic for quite a long time (I'm deeply convinced that no rationally thinking person should ever declare being an atheist). All-powerful spiritual beings may or may not exist, and humanity will never prove either point. That's the main idea of faith - if you truly believe, you needn't seek evidence; if you don't, nothing will convince you to change your mind in that matter.

The above does not occur to everybody though, and not only to religious fanatics. Some atheists tend to surpass in their orthodoxy even extremely religious people. Pushy anti-religious propaganda is sometimes more ridiculous than professor Maciej Giertych's revelations about mammoths living during the Gold Rush. There is a term "kindermetal" in Poland, describing people (mostly teenagers) who consider themselves "dark", wear black, cut themselves and listen to heavy metal/rock (a bit emo-ish if you ask me). Most of them are also atheists of the aforementioned type. That is why I distinguish between atheists, and "kinderatheists".

Kinderatheists are funny creatures, because while they declare they don't believe in spirituality, they still behave like braindead cultists. A kinderatheist says there is no God, no spiritual life whatsoever, but if you ask him/her about the reverse pentagram on their neck they answer swiftly: "This is for my lord, Satan". If you tell a kinderatheist about Discordianism: "Ooo, yeah, it's so cool - I'm a Discordian too!" - you hear in answer... The pit of confusion even grows when you decide to ask a kinderatheist why doesn't he believe in God: "because priests are bad, they only take money, molest children and build expensive churches"... Um, whaaa? Okay, that is a point in certain examples, but what priests have to do with God (assuming he does exist)? Apparently kinderatheists posess a variation of the Malkavian 1st level Discipline of Dementation: they can see nonexistent connections between facts and objects (mechanics: spend 1 Black-nail-polish Point and roll a Difficulty 4 Perception+Concrete Test to see something that is actually not there). It's hard to determine wether this is really funny, or really sad.

Hopefully a simple fact will be understood one day: there is no difference between a Christian, Muslim, Jew or atheists - if they don't take the time to think about what they believe in and why, they can all be equally amusing/dangerous.

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Unregistered user Wednesday, October 24, 2007 6:14:56 PM

JJThomson writes: It is quite over one's head to understand reality that surround us. Everything depends on reference standard the observer is into. Everyone has another point of view and paradoxically everyone is right! Doesn't matter if you are Muslim, Christian, Atheist or.. Agnostic. It is your religion, it is your interpretation of World and Universe even if you scream that Atheism/Agnosticism [cross one out] can't be called 'religion'. This situation is similar to Timothy Leary's words: 'question authority'. But he became an authority to Hippies. There are many differences between every two people but they are too minor to start killing each other. It is stupid. And one more important thought: it makes World more quaint and colorful when there isn't One and Only Point of View. Am I right?

GlowTheGlow Wednesday, October 24, 2007 6:55:16 PM

Being an agnostic doesn't mean you can't believe in God. You simply cannot be e.g. Catholic, because it, and many other religious groups usurp the right to call themselves the only ones who are right. Formalization of any religion can only be harmful - it leads to radicalism and aggression towards what's different. As well as extreme atheism, which assumes there is no spiritual world, even though atheists have no rational evidence to support that statement. As well as Catholics don't have rational arguments to support theirs. Agnosticism is a safe and fair solution for those who despise fighting other points of view - because it doesn't discard either option (atheism nor theism) a priori.

Unregistered user Wednesday, October 24, 2007 8:00:34 PM

JJThompson writes: "Being an agnostic doesn't mean you can't believe in God." "Freemasonry explicitly and openly states that it is neither a religion nor a substitute for one." ^^

GlowTheGlow Wednesday, October 24, 2007 9:44:25 PM

I know too little about freemasonry to formulate an opinion on that matter. xD Though I have no reason not to believe in that statement. And even if they lie: "I don't care I don't care I don't care fuck you". Anyway, I fail to see the connection between the entry and what you wrote now, maybe I'm not Malkavian enough. ; P

Unregistered user Wednesday, October 24, 2007 10:13:18 PM

JJThompson writes: I've just imagined B. Wildstein with TNT going to destroy one huge Polish radio station ^^

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