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Obama's Hate Speech

I'm posting about this since it hits home a little too closely. I'm Canadian and I don't want to talk about this, but it's something that needs to be said. I reject and denounce everything that Obama has said in this speech. Sure, some things were ok. His performance was good and all that. But the content was deplorable.

Before I say my short two cents worth, there are three unwritten rules about talking about race or other "groups" that are universal. Since they are unspoken, some people are able to cross this line and get away with it (so it's not really universal, but you get my meaning). I've had more death threats and have been called more things and been involved in more "unpleasant" situations than I can count because of my minority status. But those things aren't worth my attention. What is more upsetting is the constant reminder of false accusations that build up over time and luckily for me, I don't hear much of it anymore. Even so, hate should NEVER be defended. More than anything, if Obama had spoken about the unrelenting hate, how it is indefensible and how we should work to stop those specific people responsible from doing this, I would have agreed with him. He instead chose to defend hate and even threw his own grandmother under the bus because we have since learned that his grandmother's situation isn't as clear cut as Obama would lead us to believe.

The first rule is that any white (or other majority and minority for that matter) who talks about race or minorities is that you will suffer the consequences. You will only lose. This will affect your reputation and your character. Yes, the discussion will continue. But it will be done by those who do work in that area or with close friends outside the public eye. It's not even a question of breaking even and forget completely about winning an argument. Once you group people together, you will invariably attribute something that doesn't apply to everyone in that group. It's a lose/lose situation. And just to show that we all know this rule, CNN had almost exclusively black people on their network after the speech. CNN knows this rule. That's why I'm not talking about race, but about hate.

The second rule of spewing out hate is that it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. When I was younger, teachers, parents, friends and everyone drilled into us to NEVER EVER use hate or the minority card EVER. It was condemned as the worst thing anyone could do. This drilling continued even as I graduated from high school. The reason this is so important is that if you are negative toward a group, they will get ticked off. And then the accuser can just go "See, I told you so." And things spiral out of control.

The third rule of hate is that it hurts everyone including the accuser. If you tick off a certain part of the population, they will be less likely to interact with you once you do need to interact with them.

For me, it's clear that Obama was not given the same memo. True that I have no idea what he grew up with or in what conditions. But he is applying for the most powerful post on the planet. He can't be that bad off. And his defence of his pastor is reprehensible. Hate is NOT defensible. America must understand the fact that Rezko, Farrakhan, Wright and Otis Moss III are all people who agree with and spew hate of the most vile things I haven't heard since my childhood (and some of which I've never heard before). These people stand behind what they say. None of them have apologized and Obama has and still does call them all friends. Those are Obama's words. Everyone must come to terms with the fact that these people will continue to shape and influence who Obama is as a person and will continue to do so for years to come.

Why associate myself with Reverend Wright in the first place, they may ask? Why not join another church? And I confess that if all that I knew of Reverend Wright were the snippets of those sermons that have run in an endless loop on the television and You Tube, or if Trinity United Church of Christ conformed to the caricatures being peddled by some commentators, there is no doubt that I would react in much the same way.


Someone needs to tell Obama that this is reprehensible. You do NOT defend hate. You do NOT make excuses for it. It doesn't matter how much good he has done. You do NOT defend it unless the man has changed his ways.

But the truth is, that isn't all that I know of the man. The man I met more than twenty years ago is a man who helped introduce me to my Christian faith, a man who spoke to me about our obligations to love one another; to care for the sick and lift up the poor. He is a man who served his country as a U.S. Marine; who has studied and lectured at some of the finest universities and seminaries in the country, and who for over thirty years led a church that serves the community by doing God's work here on Earth – by housing the homeless, ministering to the needy, providing day care services and scholarships and prison ministries, and reaching out to those suffering from HIV/AIDS.


This is a classic textbook example of what not to do. If there's anything that has been said to me and others over and over and over where I grew up is that you do not do this. This is a classic pitfall. The good never negates the bad. NEVER. Obama clearly didn't get the memo.

I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community.


Why not? Why is Wright equivalent to the black community? Obama doesn't say. Obama CHOSE this man as his pastor. Obama can walk away as others have done all over the world when their pastor has said something reprehensible.

I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother – a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.


So he equates his grandmother, who can no longer defend herself because she is deceased, (correction: I read that she is indeed alive) with what Wright has said. The stuff that comes out of Obama's mouth is ridiculous. There is no excuse. And this is a common pattern with Obama and those who harbour hate. He'll defend anything as long as he can point to something else that he considers being just as bad or worse. Sorry Obama, that's not how you move forward. That's how you stay stuck in the politics of hate.

These people are a part of me. And they are a part of America, this country that I love.


Hate has no place in America or anywhere else. And to say that hate is part of you is despicable.

But we do need to remind ourselves that so many of the disparities that exist in the African-American community today can be directly traced to inequalities passed on from an earlier generation that suffered under the brutal legacy of slavery and Jim Crow.


Fine, just as long as you don't use this to defend hate.

Look, my ancestors were slaves too. I still have some documents about an uncle on my mother's father's side several generations back that lost everything he had. He hid and was able to impersonate an Englishman in order to keep one boat from his prior fishing business in order to keep feeding his grandparents with whom he lived as well as his friends. If he were discovered, he would have been hung along with his entire family and anyone who helped him. He was "lucky". Others, not so much.

But I'm not black. Neither were my ancestors. Some are still upset about what happened back then. But those feelings can only be pointed to the past. No one alive today is responsible for it or suffers from slavery. Could a point be made that my current situation or those of Acadians or Cajuns alike are the product of the Deportation? Of course. But there's no one around left to blame. Yet, there are still many Acadians that still harbour hatred.

And I'm not comparing my situation to anyone else's other than pointing out that African Americans aren't the only ones who suffered from slavery. I'm only speaking about hate here. Each has his or her own story to tell. But the main point is how the people responsible aren't around anymore.

But the anger is real; it is powerful; and to simply wish it away, to condemn it without understanding its roots, only serves to widen the chasm of misunderstanding that exists between the races.


It's not anger. It's hate. Get it right. This is the problem, Obama. You just don't get it. Hate is the problem. Unless you beat hate, you can't move ahead. You MUST condemn it. You MUST make it go away. If there are problems, then address those. But leave hate out of it.

Just as black anger often proved counterproductive, so have these white resentments distracted attention from the real culprits of the middle class squeeze – a corporate culture rife with inside dealing, questionable accounting practices, and short-term greed; a Washington dominated by lobbyists and special interests; economic policies that favour the few over the many. And yet, to wish away the resentments of white Americans, to label them as misguided or even racist, without recognizing they are grounded in legitimate concerns – this too widens the racial divide, and blocks the path to understanding.


This is a man who just doesn't get it. Anger isn't the problem. It's hate. And he's defending it. Over and over and over, he defends it. Yes, all of what he says about the disparities may be true. But leave HATE out of it. The above quote is a classic example of rule 2 and 3.

One must understand that pointing out current suffering is NEVER a reason to defend hate toward an entire group. NEVER. There is no argument that works here because if you make excuses for hate, then the ones perpetrating the injustices will also make excuses for their actions and nothing will get solved.

Please realise that I have ZERO intention of speaking about race in this article and hope I didn't do so. I only intended to talk about hate and hate only. I cannot talk for others. Not even those that have a similar past as mine. I can only tell my own story.

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Mark writes:

Obama wasn't defending hate. He was defending a person who made hateful remarks. My father (a Mexican / American) has said plenty of hateful remarks in the past about my black friends, yet I still shake his hand and hug him at Christmas time. I know that regardless of the upbringing that shaped his opinion in such a way, he's still a good man who I've the utmost respect for. And when I brought my black girlfriend of 4 years home a few years ago, he hugged her and accepted her as a potential member of our family.

It is anger. My father was angry about being taunted and threatened in his younger years while living in a predominantly black neighborhood. He was following along with what his role models told him about black people. He was angry about the stereotypes he had been told were true of these people. But when he had to come to terms with the fact that the inherent generalization that caused his anger was silly, his true colors shown through.

You're looking for some sort of black and white (no pun), which is fine in machine logic but useless when dealing with people. A hateful remark does not make a hateful person. An ignorant person, sure. An angry person, most likely. But not an evil or hateful person. More likely a scared person with an under-developed worldview.

You might not be a fan of Obama, but to discredit his speech as means of supporting hatred is short-sighted. He brought the subject into public discussion as an adult speaking to other adults who understand the complexity that is societal / multicultural coexistence. I haven't seen anything similar in all my time following public figures (as short lived as that may be).

By anonymous user, # 20. March 2008, 02:50:34

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Obama wasn't defending hate.


That's the problem. He was defending hate, but doesn't realise it.

He was defending a person who made hateful remarks. My father (a Mexican / American) has said plenty of hateful remarks in the past about my black friends, yet I still shake his hand and hug him at Christmas time.


There is no excuse for hate. Plus, this is a man he CHOSE as his pastor. Obama wasn't born into Wright's family. This excuse has been debunked time and again. Why you would choose to use it now is as deplorable as Wright's comments.

It is anger.


No, it isn't. And it's about time someone told you it isn't.

You're looking for some sort of black and white (no pun), which is fine in machine logic but useless when dealing with people.


There is no excuse for hate. NONE. Until you realise that, you will always make excuses. Wright has NOT apologized for his comments. Obama's new pastor agrees with Wright's comments. He's in the videos. People who willingly associate with haters are also supporters of haters. There is no excuse.

A hateful remark does not make a hateful person.


It is if they believe in it. That's the problem.

But not an evil or hateful person. More likely a scared person with an under-developed worldview.


So you're saying that "a scared person with an under-developed worldview" such as Wright has been Obama's pastor for the last 20 years and this is the man that might be in the most powerful position on the planet. WOW!!! If you're trying to convince me of something, I hope this ain't it.

You might not be a fan of Obama, but to discredit his speech as means of supporting hatred is short-sighted.


There is no excuse for hate. BTW, I'm not trying to discredit his speech. I'm reacting to how I'm deeply offended by it. After all the work people have done to put hatred behind them, this guy has the audacity to undo all that and give excuses. Sorry, but that won't fly with me.

He brought the subject into public discussion as an adult speaking to other adults who understand the complexity that is societal / multicultural coexistence.


There is no excuse for hate.

I haven't seen anything similar in all my time following public figures (as short lived as that may be).


There is no excuse for hate.

All his speech did was give reason to other haters to form their own excuses. The damage Obama has done with his speech will be felt for generations to come.

By Vorlath, # 20. March 2008, 05:33:23

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Kyle writes:

I do not know what you really mean by "There is no excuse for hate". I can agree with you on it's face, but the context in which you use it implies you are expecting Obama to take some specific actions. What are those actions?

If there is no excuse for hate, can restitution be paid? If a friend says hateful thing out of ignorance or fear, do I have a responsibility to stick with that friend and make sure he is schooled to correct his ways?

Sure, there is no *excuse* for hate, but then what? I can not refuse to talk to my grandmother, pastor and friends, because they all bring real value to my life. People can not be rejected like broken parts. From a selfish point of view, you must weigh the good and the bad in the person and determine if they bring enough value to you to maintain the relationship. From a selfless point of view, you have a responsibility to maintain the relationship and help guide your errant friends and family down the proper path.

By anonymous user, # 20. March 2008, 06:39:15

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can agree with you on it's face, but the context in which you use it implies you are expecting Obama to take some specific actions. What are those actions?


Either Wright apologizes for all his remarks and actually believes that he was wrong in saying those things, or else Obama MUST put as much distance between himself and Wright (and anyone who believes in Wright's remarks such as his new pastor Otis Moss). Oprah left years ago because of similar outlandish remarks.

If there is no excuse for hate, can restitution be paid?


I have no opinion on restitution. There are some in this area, and in a nearby city, (and other areas) that still want restitution from the English government for the Deportation and the English government is refusing. I think there are better things to worry about.

If a friend says hateful thing out of ignorance or fear, do I have a responsibility to stick with that friend and make sure he is schooled to correct his ways?


Depends. Do they believe what they say? The question isn't if you should stay, but if you should leave for their own good (not your own good). I'm not very concerned with someone that slips up when in the heat of the moment if they immediately see that what they said is wrong (when pointed out or not). But Wright is a different story. He harbours hate and preaches it (influences others to do the same). He is drunk with it. And Obama is defending that by associating with him. In this case, you MUST distance yourself. If everyone distances themselves, then hopefully that person will realise that he has to change or be alone. And this can only happen when friends distance themselves. Sometimes it takes every last one to distance themselves.

For an example of this happening, read up about Wil Wheaton. He started losing friends left and right while he was on Star Trek. People were telling him he was an asshole and when he turned to his last remaining friend about how ridiculous it was to say that he was an asshole, his friend told him "I know I'm your friend, but you *are* an asshole." And he changed after that because all his friends had left him. People had been telling him for years including all his friends. Today, he's completely different and has quite a significant fan base mostly comprised of people who used to dislike him in earlier days.

Obama hasn't learned this yet. For me, this is as obvious as water is wet because it was drilled into us at a young age.

I can not refuse to talk to my grandmother, pastor and friends, because they all bring real value to my life.


Absolutely, you can refuse to talk to your pastor and friends. It's your obligation to them. You were not born into your friends' or pastor's family and as I said earlier, this argument has been debunked time and again. When it comes to your family, you still shouldn't defend it. You should speak out against it every time. And distance yourself when you can. No one I know stays around a pastor or friend that would spew the kind of hatred Wright spews. The good never negates the bad.

People can not be rejected like broken parts.


That's unfortunate that you think this. They should be rejected. Immediately and forcefully. It's very effective and often the only right thing to do that works.

From a selfish point of view, you must weigh the good and the bad in the person and determine if they bring enough value to you to maintain the relationship.


NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NEVER EVER DO THIS!!!!

I can't stress how important it is to never accept hate in anyone. For any other flaw, sure. But never for people who harbour hate because then you sustain the hate. You feed it. You make it ok. You don't give them any reason for changing by staying around them, exactly what Obama is doing with Wright. Obama basically went on national TV and defended Wright on a national stage. You think Wright will change now? No way in Hell.

From a selfless point of view, you have a responsibility to maintain the relationship and help guide your errant friends and family down the proper path.


The best thing you can do to help them when they harbour hate is to leave them behind until they come back on their own.

And to make sure that I make myself clear. I'm talking about hate towards groups, whether they be race, gender or ethnic background, etc.

By Vorlath, # 20. March 2008, 07:37:27

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I do not know what you really mean by "There is no excuse for hate".


I'm talking about giving reasons for standing by someone who is hateful like what Obama has done. Those reasons can NEVER be valid no matter what. In fact, they are extremely detrimental.

As I quoted in my article:

But the truth is, that isn't all that I know of the man. The man I met more than twenty years ago is a man who helped introduce me to my Christian faith, a man who spoke to me about our obligations to love one another; to care for the sick and lift up the poor. He is a man who served his country as a U.S. Marine; who has studied and lectured at some of the finest universities and seminaries in the country, and who for over thirty years led a church that serves the community by doing God's work here on Earth – by housing the homeless, ministering to the needy, providing day care services and scholarships and prison ministries, and reaching out to those suffering from HIV/AIDS.


That's not a reason to stick by the man. NOTHING can be said to defend hate.

NOTHING!

This is actually a very good example of the kind of excuses and objections I and others would have against my teachers when growing up. What about all the good they did? What about the people who benefit from his deeds? What if he discovers the cure for cancer? It's not an easy message to accept up front to reject hate when you consider the good things. But the good never negates the hate. NEVER!

By Vorlath, # 20. March 2008, 08:42:25

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Vorlath, you took a very sensitive topic... Human kind at most is very privitive. And the hatred is a big and most valuable part of this primitiveness. Along with others - galacy, agressiveness...

You should know what Russians did to our and other nations is 1000 time more damaging than Englishmen did to blacks. It can be qualified as a sort of genocide. But ok, now we still live with russians and we still can accept their existane along with us and manage our hatred. By the way, there's no hatred to russians at all. It could only be addressed to russian state/government, and mostly to previous ones. We CANNOT hate them now. There's no any reasons. And ofcource, some of us wants a contribution or restitution. I too think this has no real point.

As humans will get more wise, they will understand that they should't fight against any evil. If it would be no evil at all, there would be no mesure for good. This is main principle of our nature and universe. We must not fight evil, we only should account for it. And tackle with it.

But 90% of the people mass don't know this and are not so wise. And Obama, like all other politicians just HAS to speak to the masses and speak in their words and terms. It he won't do this - he will never be a president. This is so obvious.

By vladas, # 20. March 2008, 09:36:59

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Anonymous writes:

Funny how you have thousands of words on this page that all have to do with the "hate" speech of Reverend Wright but never once do you actually quote something from the man himself. Is that perhaps because what the man has said - while not agreeable or even correct - is not really hateful? Maybe his point of view is actually part of a long tradition in black churches? Maybe that's why Obama - while not agreeing with him on those points - does defend his right to bring those points up? Could they possibly be part of a legitimate cultural history that we as Americans need to grapple with?

See this article: http://www.newsweek.com/id/124270

By anonymous user, # 20. March 2008, 19:54:39

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There is no defence of hate. NONE! Stop making excuses. That newsweek article is again trying to defend hate. My ancestors were slaves and I reject any excuse based on slavery. I also reject any other excuse that tries to defend hate. I suggest you do the same.

And I don't quote hate because we need to stop hate, not continue it. Go on YouTube if you want to see what he said. There are plenty of videos there.

I reject and denounce everything you have said and would hope others would also reject any and all excuses made in defence of hate.

By Vorlath, # 22. March 2008, 01:51:55

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No one is born hating another person because of the colour of his skin, or his background, or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love, for love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite.


- NELSON MANDELA, Autobiography

[A] new society cannot be created by reproducing the repugnant past, however refined or enticingly repackaged.


- NELSON MANDELA, Nobel lecture, 1993

If you hate a person, you hate something in him that is part of yourself. What isn't part of ourselves doesn't disturb us.


- HERMANN HESSE, Demian

Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.


- Coretta Scott King

You cannot hate other people without hating your self.


- Oprah Winfrey

Hatred is the coward's revenge for being intimidated.


- George Bernard Shaw

It is easy to hate and it is difficult to love. This is how the whole scheme of things works. All good things are difficult to achieve; and bad things are very easy to get.


- Rene Descartes

Hatred paralyses life; love releases it. Hatred confuses life; love harmonizes it. Hatred darkens life; love illuminates it.


- Martin Luther King, Jr.


I'll add my own quote. This one must already be out there, but I haven't heard it.

It is well known that you are never a victim just once when an injustice takes place, but are a victim multiple times over. Not only do you suffer the initial injustice, but are also responsible to make things right, usually at great personal cost above and beyond what has already occurred. Although hating is the easy route, it only compounds the injustice. If you are going to suffer with either route, take the one that sets things right as there is no escape with hate.

I'll add one more thing. If one cannot see that Rev. Wright preaches hate, then you are so absorbed by hate that you have been blinded by it. Obama himself has denounced those very comments, unfortunately not the person who said those things. If he was a true friend, he would have rejected the person as well until he changed for the better and sincerely apologized for those comments.

By Vorlath, # 22. March 2008, 02:19:22

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I have another saying that I live by. Hate is a response. As a response, you are following the lead of someone else who triggered this action. And followers always come in second. They always lose. If you wish to win, you must lead. You must live your own life and work with others in the pursuit of happiness.

By Vorlath, # 22. March 2008, 02:45:27

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I think that both uncontrolled hate and uncontrolled love are kinda extremes on each side... As all extremes these disturb much our main topic of life - gathering experience independently. Once I said - the ultimate human's obligation is - to be neutral. This is a sort of buddhist thinking. And I'm more close to their understanding of life. Any extremism (in religion, politics, work, love, sex, hate) is inappreciable.

However, I agree, it's better love than hate. On the other hand there is no love without hate, and - the opposite. To be neutral is a better way.

By vladas, # 22. March 2008, 06:00:08

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Kyle writes:

Vorlath wrote: "If everyone distances themselves, then hopefully that person will realise that he has to change or be alone."

This is where we fundamentally disagree. You assume everyone will distance themselves from the hateful person, leaving him alone. I believe the hateful person will not be alone, he will have friends; ones just as hateful as himself. Without a voice of reason, this group will feed off its own anger, and runs the risk of becoming a mob. The righteous have an obligation associate with the hateful and, like you said, speak out against their hateful tendencies every time.

I think your example of Wil Wheaton’s last good friend is similar to what I am proposing: The last friend knew Wil was capable of change, and continued to associate with Wil until he changed. You may believe Wil changed because of the friends that left, but I believe Wil changed because of the friend that did not leave. In any case, being an asshole is not like being a racist/hateful person; the former is disliked by all, but the latter will find friends with similar views, breeding hate among themselves.


Vorlath wrote: "When it comes to your family, you still shouldn't defend it. You should speak out against it every time. And distance yourself when you can."

I never said to defend family, friends or pastors. I only meant you should continue associating with them and “speak out against it every time”.




I hope you see our discussion has two parts:
1) Is Rev. Wright’s speech hateful? and
2) Should you associate with a person that says hateful things?
On the first part, I did not find Wright’s speech hateful (http://www.sluggy.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=315691&sid=4b3e97ace4ee8cee02bd6850e52f50b7). The speech is certainly political suicide because “God damn America” is a powerful sound bite, and is easily take out of context. For this discussion, I am willing to concede to whatever conclusion you may have.

The second part is most interesting, for we disagree greatly

By anonymous user, # 1. April 2008, 01:33:45

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This is where we fundamentally disagree. You assume everyone will distance themselves from the hateful person, leaving him alone. I believe the hateful person will not be alone, he will have friends; ones just as hateful as himself. Without a voice of reason, this group will feed off its own anger, and runs the risk of becoming a mob. The righteous have an obligation associate with the hateful and, like you said, speak out against their hateful tendencies every time.


I don't assume everyone will distance themselves. But if everyone does, then they will indeed be alone. And it does happen. I even quoted an example. When you do things that are hateful, eventually you will have no one around you. If you are NOT a hateful person and do remain, then the mob is more likely to happen. YOU are the reason the mob happens. In the case of mobs, you can't preach to the same people all the time. You need new people to fuel that kind of hate. If people start to leave, then it sends a powerful message.

Please consider these words. You cannot change a hateful person by remaining close to them. It's IMPOSSIBLE. The only way to do it is to distance yourself from them.

I think your example of Wil Wheaton’s last good friend is similar to what I am proposing: The last friend knew Wil was capable of change, and continued to associate with Wil until he changed.


No, you don't get it at all. HE HAD NO ONE LEFT TO FUEL HIS HATE. Not even his last friend. Before, when he had plenty of friends, he would always ridicule anyone who claimed he was an asshole by turning to his friends who would not disagree. But that all changed this last time. He couldn't do that anymore. He tried, but his last friend called him out on it and said he was done with that. So Wil realised the problem was with him. But he realised it only once EVERY single friend had left him, including his last friend.

To think that all his other friends leaving had nothing to do with his change of attitude is very dangerous and hurtful to those around you.

You may believe Wil changed because of the friends that left, but I believe Wil changed because of the friend that did not leave.


HAHAHA! WHAT? No, man. He changed BECAUSE he left.

In any case, being an asshole is not like being a racist/hateful person; the former is disliked by all, but the latter will find friends with similar views, breeding hate among themselves.


I chose that story specifically because it didn't involve race or sexism (AFAIC) but still got my point across. I must admit that I'm both surprised and disapointed with the fact that you're still trying to defend hate or make excuses for staying with hateful people. Hate and the people who spew hatred must stand alone or not at all. And just because others might stay around doesn't mean you have to be just as harmful to both yourself and your friend.

I never said to defend family, friends or pastors. I only meant you should continue associating with them and “speak out against it every time”.


Granted that family is family. But friends, pastors and everyone else who hates is a deal breaker. Distance yourself. There is no reason for hate and what you're trying to do is give reasons to stay around hate. STOP DOING THAT! IT'S WRONG! It's wrong for both you and your friend. You are causing the hate. You are feeding it. Making it ok. You are hurting yourself. And you are hurting those around you.


1) Is Rev. Wright’s speech hateful? and
2) Should you associate with a person that says hateful things?


1) YES!

Your second question is again trying to make excuses. It's not about a person that says hateful things and slips up. It's about someone who truly believe in the hate and don't see that it's wrong. You cannot convince these people.

So your second question should be this:
2) Should you associate with a person that spews hatred and believes in it?

2) NEVER!

About Rev. Wright, I did not want to quote anything, but here goes:
I'm paraphrasing these because I don't want to go back and look for them.
Bill's been riding us like he's been riding Monica Lewinski. He's been ridin' dirty!
- Rev. Wright

If that's not racist, I don't know what is.

White people killing black Jesus.
- Rev. Wright

Racist. He added the black Jesus thing to make it racial on purpose.

White people creating the HIV virus to kill black poeple.
- Rev. Wright

Racist.

The chickens are coming home to roost.
- Rev. Wright using Malcolm X quote meaning that white people are the cause of all evil.

Racist.

Hillary ain't ever been called a nigger.
- Rev. Wright

Sexist and racist (or just dumb). Why call out hillary anyways?

US of KKKA
- Rev. Wright

That was in reference to today's USA. I'm not american, but that's clearly racist and hateful.

Government gives them [blacks] the drugs, builds them bigger prisons, passes a three stike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America'? NO NO NO Not God Bless America. God Damn America. That's in the Bible for killing innocent people. God Damn America for treating us citizens as less than human.


WOW! That's such a peaceful, non-hateful, full of joy message, now isn't it?

People keep going to this church and so the Rev. feel justified in what he says. If no one went, even today, to Rev Moss III's sermons, then this hate would stop. Moss is the one patting the back of Rev. Wright in one of the videos and is Obama's current pastor. Nice, eh? Obama believes in hate. The only way you can stay with hateful people is if you agree with them. That's why Obama is a racist. And to have a racist President wouldn't be too good an idea. But that's for Americans to decide. For me, I can only say that you distance yourself from haters, or you are yourself a hater because you feed it and make the hate possible.

By Vorlath, # 1. April 2008, 05:41:37

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