Are bookmarks still necessary?
Friday, 21. September 2007, 08:15:07
Like most people I have a good number of web pages bookmarked. However I've noticed recently-in fact for quite a while now-that in reality I virtually never use most of them. In fact, what usually happens is that I bookmark something, and then I just forget that it's there.
Why? Well, Google.
The performance of search engines has become so good these days that I find it much easier to simply search Google for the site that I want, instead of going/searching through the hierarchy of my bookmark folders.
Instead of Bookmarks>folder>subfolder>subsubfolder>subsubsubfolder -- site Y
I use
Google -- Site Y
And baf, I'm there.
If you know the name of the website (and you usually do if it's something that you'd bother to bookmark) you'll get THAT web site as you're first result 99.9% of the time. Even if you don't know the name, a few good keywords will usually make your target appear on the first page of results. This tactic is of course more efficient for large websites, but I'm amazed by how well it works for small sites too, especially if you know their names.
The only bookmarks that I use regularly are those illustrious few that have been ennobled to the personal bar, the first of which is, of course, Google, followed by Yahoo! and then a baker's dozen's worth of others.
There are now bookmark websites, such as del.icio.us, that have put new twists on the idea of keyword bookmarking, but they've never won me over as my preferred way to bookmark...
So what do you think? Is bookmarking still pertinent? As Google and other search engines get better and better at reading our minds, are we going to see a day when browsers no longer offer a bookmark function?
Voilà, today's existential question...
Why? Well, Google.
The performance of search engines has become so good these days that I find it much easier to simply search Google for the site that I want, instead of going/searching through the hierarchy of my bookmark folders.
Instead of Bookmarks>folder>subfolder>subsubfolder>subsubsubfolder -- site Y
I use
Google -- Site Y
And baf, I'm there.
If you know the name of the website (and you usually do if it's something that you'd bother to bookmark) you'll get THAT web site as you're first result 99.9% of the time. Even if you don't know the name, a few good keywords will usually make your target appear on the first page of results. This tactic is of course more efficient for large websites, but I'm amazed by how well it works for small sites too, especially if you know their names.
The only bookmarks that I use regularly are those illustrious few that have been ennobled to the personal bar, the first of which is, of course, Google, followed by Yahoo! and then a baker's dozen's worth of others.
There are now bookmark websites, such as del.icio.us, that have put new twists on the idea of keyword bookmarking, but they've never won me over as my preferred way to bookmark...
So what do you think? Is bookmarking still pertinent? As Google and other search engines get better and better at reading our minds, are we going to see a day when browsers no longer offer a bookmark function?
Voilà, today's existential question...



claudeb # 21. September 2007, 08:53
And now... replace "browser" with "os", "bookmarks" with "office documents" and "Google Search" with "Google Docs". Sounds familiar?
NoteMe # 21. September 2007, 09:00
But I do use a nicknames quite often. And they are a bookmark feature. I have about 15 nick names I use daily:
my = My.opera.com
g = google
m = live search
and so on. I could not live without them. It makes my browser life a lot less stressing by letting me use the keyboard much more than my mouse by pressing Ctrl+L to go to the address bar, then just write the nick and hit enter.
I also have a set of bookmarks to blogs, news pages I visit more or less daily. Googling for them every day would be a hassle. But I guess RSS could one day kill all of those bookmarks as well, unless some Mircroformat beats it to it.
One random idea that just poppet up in my mind just now would be to use bookmarks as your own search engine. It would beat Googling on both speed as well as relevance. It could work like the history search in Opera, but only search on those pages bookmarked. You would only get interesting search result, but not necessary relevant hits. I guess this could be improved, but need to sit on that one for a bit.
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SuperKoko # 24. September 2007, 20:16
1) Pages that I find interesting and to which I could get back in future.
This is a sort of selective persistent history.
These pages aren't easy to find with google when, one month later, I vaguely remember them and want to get back to them, without remembering anything specific.
These pages aren't "my favorites", as I almost never open them.
Not only is it more persistent and pertinent (the history is full of irrelevant pages) than the history, but I also classify with a few folders. For example, I currently put everything related to Opera in an "Opera" folder.
With that, I never loose any page that I found interesting.
Now, I tend to bookmark every page on which I spent more than a few seconds except for discussion forums.
I systematically bookmark every page that I entirely read as well as pages that I think I'll entirely read some day.
2) Putting together a set of pages related to a single technology that I found at various places on the Web (i.e. many different domain names) but that I want to be able to access all at the same time because every of them alone contains too little information while all of them together are enough to work on the matter.
I just put them together in a bookmark folder.
3) Pages that I want to access with a nickname. Only my most favorite pages get a nickname. For pages that I use less, I type the URI in the address bar manually.
I don't use Google for my favorites. I don't want to eat resources of Google and give them information about my navigation for laziness that wouldn't even save my time.
I use google only to search the Web for new content that I cannot easily access through a database.
For example, I don't use Google when I want to read a specific RFC. I just enter ietf.org/rfc/rfcNNNN.txt in the address bar.
(I should add it as search engine).
ianp5a # 2. October 2007, 18:50
This applies if you collect bookmarks and organise them well.
Remember, You can open up a folder full of bookmarks in 2 seconds. Try that on google!
Wandering electrons # 3. October 2007, 07:33
Originally posted by Clear%20Wine:
This is true!
NoteMe # 4. October 2007, 10:29
ok, but don't try this at home...
*..silence for quite a while while all pages, as well as cached pages opens* Think a UserJs excluding the "cached pages" and "similar pages" would have done it a bit more painless, but I am starting to get used to have my bookmarks in folder again (instead of del.icio.us, although yesterday evening Opera started to make double folders/bookmarks after syncing yesterday. And they won't go away.
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ianp5a # 5. October 2007, 06:32
But back to the sentiment of this thread, I'm sure there are a class of sites that favour the google approach. And other links you keep safely because, if you lose it, you feel you'll never find it again.
bpm # 12. July 2008, 00:22