Weatherlawyer - The time of the end

The time of the end

Monday, May 31, 2010 8:18:05 AM

I ain't got no life, higher learning, truth and light, many moons ago

Are we living in the time of the end?
Or am I barking mad?

A cross reference.

I am very cross,
not a worshipper of iconic deadly weapons.

Here is a remarkable web site:
http://biblos.com/

It contains a variety of versions of the bible and an as yet unseen by me large buch of cross reference tools. So it is only fair I should look at it.

Surely one of us has to?
If not you, eh?

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Weatherlawyer # Monday, May 31, 2010 8:30:56 AM

So I looked up Revalation:

Originally posted by Easton's Bible Dictionary:

II. The Process of Revelation.

Meanwhile, however, God had not forgotten them, but was preparing salvation for them also through the supernatural revelation of His grace that He was making to His people. According to the Biblical representation, in the midst of and working confluently with the revelation which He has always been giving of Himself on the plane of Nature, God was making also from the very fall of man a further revelation of Himself on the plane of grace. In contrast with His general, natural revel...

Clipped that load of cobblers.
http://refbible.com/r/revelation.htm

First off there is nothiong supernatural about the behaviour of things that take place on this planet. A war can not be fought using humans where the superior forces are allowed to use what is to humanity Magic.

What would be the point? Why not just wipe the slate clean and start again with a new edition? We are not robots or machines are we?

On the contrary the whole story starts with the intimacy of family. We are sons of god. Sons born in exile admittedly. No more -nor less, different to the angels cast out of heaven.

If there is any magic we have to be a part of it if we are to learn from the experience or make an active, valid contribution.

Does that make sense to you?

Weatherlawyer # Monday, May 31, 2010 8:41:42 AM

Let's approach this thing with gentle logic.

First off, are you an idiot?

If you don't understand something, you are either thick or being sold a load of codswallop. Most people know when they are being fed a red herring.
Sooner or later.

Everyone gets scammed in almost every way imaginable sooner or later. It's called growing up in the school of hard knocks. When we get scammed we learn not to fall for that line next time.

As most of this learning takes place in our childhood, we learn on gentle slopes. Often because of our greed or desires, we have to go to the wall as adults.

Sometimes we give up whole cultures, commit the most heinous of crimes because of such scams.

So, it doesn't take a lot of brain cells for most people to understand a swipe across the back of the neck with a wet fish.

Is the Apocaslypse such a scam?

Weatherlawyer # Monday, May 31, 2010 8:47:49 AM

You get the picture that the lads who wrote the Gospels were fairly young at the time of their calling. Old enough to count as men to be listened to, perhaps but still in the prime of their youth.

The Revelation was given to one of these men when he was very old. He had seen how the early Christianity had prospered and in some places been subverted. He lived in an age of reason. The dark ages were about to arrive.

But not just then.

Weatherlawyer # Monday, May 31, 2010 9:01:09 AM

Originally posted by John X:

Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of the prophecy, and heed the things which are written in it; for the time is near.

Does he mean us?

Actually the Apocalypse started to occur even as it was being written about. And it continued to come true all through history from then until now.

zrafatdjmd1 # Thursday, June 3, 2010 5:04:22 PM

Originally posted by Weatherlawyer:

Originally posted by = John X:

Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of the prophecy, and heed the things which are written in it; for the time is near.
Does he mean us? Actually the Apocalypse started to occur even as it was being written about. And it continued to come true all through history from then until now.

Jesús dejó ver que deseaba que la gente conociera la explicación de las acontecimientos que ocurrirían en aquel tiempo específico y aún después. Por eso se lo reveló a Juan mediante visiones. Somos bendecidos -o felices, como dicen otras versiones- al darnos cuenta del significado de los acontecimientos actuales. Es horrible vivir en la ignorancia, es decir, no saber por qué suceden las cosas. Acaso no es natural en los niños preguntar siempre "por qué?" y no es natural en un padre amoroso dar respuesta a su inocente pregunta.

Weatherlawyer # Thursday, June 3, 2010 5:09:23 PM

Hi.

Originally posted by tdjmd1:

Jesús dejó ver que deseaba que la gente conociera la explicación de las acontecimientos que ocurrirían en aquel tiempo específico y aún después. Por eso se lo reveló a Juan mediante visiones. Somos bendecidos -o felices, como dicen otras versiones- al darnos cuenta del significado de los acontecimientos actuales. Es horrible vivir en la ignorancia, es decir, no saber por qué suceden las cosas. Acaso no es natural en los niños preguntar siempre "por qué?" y no es natural en un padre amoroso dar respuesta a su inocente pregunta.

Pardon?

Weatherlawyer # Thursday, June 3, 2010 5:10:30 PM

I've had an hard day and som fairly bad news maybe. Now I am off to bed, drained.

I'll get a translation later.

zrafatdjmd1 # Thursday, June 3, 2010 5:33:10 PM

Sorry, my brain works better in Spanish. But, yes, translation can wait.

Please, take care.

zrafatdjmd1 # Thursday, June 3, 2010 7:27:00 PM

Haven´t you download to your toolbar Im Translator, have you?

Look for it at Add=ons of Mozilla Home.

Weatherlawyer # Friday, June 4, 2010 1:57:52 PM

I'm using Opera. Is there such an add on or widget for that?

Weatherlawyer # Friday, June 4, 2010 2:00:13 PM

I'm using Opera. Is there such an add on or widget for that?

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Jesus left to see that he wanted people to know the explanation of the events that occur at that specific time and beyond. That's why I found John through visions. We are blessed, or happy, as they say other versions, to realize the significance of current events. It is horrible to live in ignorance, that is, not knowing why things happen. Is it not natural to children always ask "why?" and is not natural for a loving father to answer his innocent question.

zrafatdjmd1 # Monday, June 7, 2010 5:39:14 AM

Originally posted by Weatherlawyer:

I'm using Opera. Is there such an add on or widget for that?

I don't know it. I'm stupid in relation to Opera browser. I'm using Mozilla Firefox browser and that Im translator is from Add-on from Mozilla home page.

Weatherlawyer # Monday, June 7, 2010 7:40:06 PM

There is one for Opera but you must ask for the instructions in Spanish on the forums:
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/search.dml?term=spanish+users&id=

I'm actually trying Internet Explorer to see if it has a spell check. I cann't finnd out how to turnn that onn inn the Opera browser.
(De nada with the I£, BTW, as you cann see.)

I've given up with Linux for a while. I have bought a decent SATA drive and will probably load a few versions on that when I learn how to download and open stuff on it.

Sadly XP still has that advantage over the better operating systems.

Weatherlawyer # Monday, June 7, 2010 8:00:51 PM

Originally posted by Weatherlawyer:

Jesus left to see that he wanted people to know the explanation of the events that occur at that specific time and beyond. That's why I found John through visions. We are blessed, or happy, as they say other versions, to realize the significance of current events. It is horrible to live in ignorance, that is, not knowing why things happen. Is it not natural to children always ask "why?" and is not natural for a loving father to answer his innocent question.

Jesus left [where/who] to see that he wanted people to know the explanation of the events that occur at that specific time and beyond.

That is not a good translation I'm sad to say. (Try again. Please.)

That's why I found John through visions.
Eh?

We are blessed, or happy, as other versions say, to realize the significance of current events.

It is horrible to live in ignorance, not knowing why [horrible] things happen. Is it not natural for children to always ask "why?"

and it's not natural for a loving father to answer his innocent question. Que?

But that's what fathers are for. It's what we do. It's why we research things in the first place.

zrafatdjmd1 # Monday, June 7, 2010 8:30:34 PM

I do not like a particle webtranslators because are machines no humans evidently. We need an interpreter better. You will see, I'll try to interpretate the quoted text.

Jesus shows he wanted people to know the explanation of the events happening at current time of them and many years after.

So he transmited John that through visions. Revelation 1:1 states: "The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John,"(New International Version, 1984)

We are blessed, or happy, as some versions of the Bible say, to realize the significance of those events happened in the past or are happening today .

It is dreadful to live in ignorance, which means without knowing why those things were or are happening. Isn´t it natural in children always ask "why"? For example, "Why is sky blue?" and isn´t natural to a loving father gives an answer to his innocent question?

For that's our Heavenly Father did it. And Jesus is in accord with Him.

Weatherlawyer # Monday, June 7, 2010 8:53:33 PM

Oh, that makes sense now.

You think the angel that put John in a trance to give him the Apocalypse revelation was Jesus. I'll have to read that again. You forget so much when you get old.

{But it's best to wait and see for that one :~}

I thought your words were about Jesus' life on earth.

zrafatdjmd1 # Monday, June 7, 2010 9:24:12 PM

Originally posted by Weatherlawyer:

You think the angel that put John in a trance to give him the Apocalypse revelation was Jesus. I'll have to read that again. You forget so much when you get old.

{But it's best to wait and see for that one :~}

I thought your words were about Jesus' life on earth.

Don't you know The Bible explain itself, do you?

The same book of Revelation says on 1:10, "On the Lord's Day I was in the Spirit, and I heard behind me a loud voice like a trumpet," and Thessalonians 4:16, "For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first."

Yes, Jesus is that spiritual creature, an angel. Of course, not any angel. The chief of the angels. This is such word "arcangel" means one who exercises control over all of angels.

LOL The Bible is like a puzzle. You just know jointing pieces correctly. A sincerely Bible student will be able to do it oriented by God active force (Genesis 1:2)

Weatherlawyer # Monday, June 7, 2010 11:20:04 PM

Oh, OK. So the word is the Word is a trumpet?
Complex isn't it.

What was this thread about originally?
Got it:

Are we living in the time of the end?
Or am I barking mad?

A cross eyed reference.

Hmmmm....

zrafatdjmd1 # Tuesday, June 8, 2010 10:43:59 AM

When the disciples asked Jesús about the signs of the time of the end also they related this period to your return (Matthew 24:3 Later, Jesus sat on the Mount of Olives. His disciples came to him privately and said, "Tell us, when will all this happen? What sign will signal your return and the end of the world?")

That wants to say, that the Lord's day (Revelation 1:10) and the time his arrival alludes to the same period of time to which the Bible calls last days.

During the above mentioned time period (2Timothy 3:1-5), Jesús as renowned king of the God's kingdom assumes the proper functions of his charge, assemble his office of government (1Thessalonias 4:14), exercise commander in chief of his military forces (Revelation 12:7; 2Thessalonias 1:7) and and also the judicial functions assigned by his Father (Acts 17:30).

Gotcha?