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Friday, 5. June 2009, 04:56:16

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A constitutional change to the country’s law of succession to give the monarch’s first born child – rather than simply the first born son – the right to the throne could fail due to lack of interest in EU elections, according to a poll.

The referendum is scheduled for June 7th – the same day as the European parliamentary elections – and 40 percent of the electorate must vote in order for the law to be ratified since it requires changing the constitution.

But only 40.2 percent of eligible voters are expected to cast their ballots in the European Parliament election.

There has been a decreasing voting tendency to the most recent European parliamentary elections, and EU citizens from other countries can also vote in Denmark. And since those people can't vote on the referendum, it means the number of Danes voting is likely lower than that 40.2 percent.

However, the poll also showed that 84 percent of voters want the law of succession changed.

I think it's a shame that the politicians haven't been able to communicate what the whole EU thing is all about. I know that everybody is obliged to search information themselves, but a voting percent of 40 is to me just a signal of that people aren't just interested.

What exactly is it that they do down there in Brussels besides deciding the angles of our bananas?! :confused:

I'll do what I'm supposed to, and go down and vote. Not because of the EU thing - but because I want princesses and princes to have equal rights to the throne. :up:

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Dacotah 5. June 2009, 05:09

:up:

Phantom2 5. June 2009, 05:16

Good for you Kitty! :up: Make it as it should be.
I always thought the Monarchy passed to the firstborn, but you have to excuse my ingnance.....over here we got away from the King and Queen thing a few years back. :D

Zaphira 5. June 2009, 05:30

@ Carol ~ :cool:

@ Phantom ~ I think the rule here is from 1953 or something like that, where women weren't having as many rights as they do now. We've got a queen now, but only because the King who was her dad had 3 daughters only.
:D

Chas4 5. June 2009, 05:32

Time to Rock the vote

Dacotah 5. June 2009, 05:34

:D

Phantom2 5. June 2009, 05:36

Originally posted by Zaphira:

her dad had 3 daughters only.

Any of them single? :D

Zaphira 5. June 2009, 05:39

@ Chas ~ It sure is! :up:

@ Phantom ~ Umm no, I'm not really sure you'd be interested anyway. :D

Phantom2 5. June 2009, 05:51

:yikes:
*runs for Sweden*

Zaphira 5. June 2009, 05:58

Run for one of the princesses instead. :D

Moesring 5. June 2009, 08:21

What exactly is it that they do down there in Brussels besides deciding the angles of our bananas?!

Bløff!
:disappointed with Kitty for believing tall tales:
Drawing upon the knowledge of that wonderful know-it-all Stephen Fry, the EU have never said anything special about the shape of bananas. All they've done is adopt the existing standards. :rolleyes:
(First 1:40 of this "Stephen Fry kills anti-EU myths - Qi" video)

Back to the issue at hand. I think the Kitty is right to be voting in favour of changing the constitution. :yes:
If Kitty exerts her power as matriarch of the Catfia, she should easily be able to get enough support to exceed the 40% threshold. :yes:

rose-marie 5. June 2009, 09:13

Sweden passed that law when crown princess Victoria was born in the mid 70's. The king wasn't too pleased with it, the old fart, but we'll have a queen once - if the monarchy still stands then.

Zaphira 5. June 2009, 09:47

@ Moe ~ Bløff? :lol:
You can be disappointed all you want - my point was that what they actually do in EU is too far away from "the ordinary people" - and the people would be more interested in the elections if they knew what the EU was all about. :up:
As for the change of constitution - I've tried to spread the word. We'll see. :smile:

@ Rose ~ I am not sure why they want to change the rules now, it's not really relevant, since our queen has only sons, and our crown prince's first born is a boy. And I am not sure our monarchy stands for longer than that either.


ellinidata 5. June 2009, 11:28

it is about time that the Royal Family it's concidered as human. Divorce, success, passion, its all part of human behavior and if a member of a Royal family is capable of becoming King or Queen let his/her character and will be the factor not the his/her sex or if it is first born. Many tycoons had their daughters take over i.e. Christina Onassis...

Zaphira 5. June 2009, 14:05

I agree at some point, but not entirely. You see, our queen is like a figurehead - she doesn't have any power whatsoever. If we should have one because of the character - who should choose him/her? If we should have elections about it we might as well have a president. :smile:

Moesring 5. June 2009, 14:07

Bløff? :lol:

Yes, bløff. :rolleyes:
The :Zaphira: is laughing at me. :cry::cry:

what they actually do in EU is too far away from "the ordinary people"

Matter of opinion. After all, there are websites - there is one called Hvad har Europa nogensinde gjort for os? for example. :yes:

That site appears to be a translation of the English version, so I know roughly what it says :happy: (although the Danish have a different poll. Incidentally, what does the word suverćnitetsafgivelse mean? :faint::confused:)

I've tried to spread the word. We'll see. :smile:

Spread the word? You should be ruling with an iron paw. :irked:
Telling your subjects that anyone that doesn't vote your way will be fed to trolls, and other such terrifying threats. :rolleyes:

Zaphira 5. June 2009, 14:34

*nods* It is a matter of opinion, obviously.
Perhaps it is just me and the people I surround myself with - who are just not interested enough in getting the point.
And I don't know what suverænitetsafgivelse mean - directly translated it's giving up sovereignty. But that didn't made me wiser.
awww

Moesring 5. June 2009, 14:43

Originally posted by Zaphira:

directly translated it's giving up sovereignty. But that didn't made me wiser.


But... you're a very wise :cat:. awww:chinscratch::bellyrub:

Anyway, the question was

Synes du, at danskerne skal stemme om den nye EU-traktat, nĺr der nu ikke er tale om suverćnitetsafgivelse?

No
Yes


The last word was the only word that Google couldn't translate. awww
It was no trouble for such a clever kitty as yourself though. :yes:
:swoon:

Zaphira 5. June 2009, 14:53

I can translate it. But I still don't understand the question. awww

:big sigh:

I feel depressed.

Moesring 5. June 2009, 15:11

awww
hugz now avalabil no waytin
:bighug:

Chas4 5. June 2009, 15:48

Zaphira 5. June 2009, 17:52

Ah, that's nice! *hugs*
I loved the "no waytin"! :yes:

rose-marie 5. June 2009, 20:32

I don't get it either. Should I be depressed too? :left:

Moesring 6. June 2009, 02:06

You're also after a hug, aren't you? :sherlock:

Well, you can't have any! They're all for Kitty. :cat::knight:

Zaphira 6. June 2009, 06:07

:yay: :happy:

rose-marie 6. June 2009, 09:16

Fine. I'll just hug myself then. awww

Zaphira 6. June 2009, 09:18

Hey, you can hug me too! If you like... :left:

rose-marie 6. June 2009, 09:25

Ooooh, okay! :hat: :happy: and :hugs:

Zaphira 6. June 2009, 14:53

:yay: :love: :hugs:

Aqualion 6. June 2009, 20:20

Changing the Danish constitution is not something you just do.

The succesion rule might be a part of the constitution that matters very little in our days, but it is still a part of our constitution.

If we, the people, vote yes, we actually vote yes to any future changes of the constitution, meaning that our politicians might use this matter of very little importance as a spearhead penetrating the procedures of how to change the constitution.

Next time, they might want us to vote for a change that has substantial meaning to us all, fx the §42, which constitutes how law-changes are supposed to be treated.

After all, we are going to vote for this change only because the government couldn't get a majority of votes in the parliament for the change. And this government will use any means possible to get what they want. This time, what they want is a way to change constitutional laws (and rights) without getting the proper majority in paliarment.

Therefore, if you vote 'Yes' or 'No', this plan will work. The only right way to vote is to vote blank. Go to the poll and deliver an empty sheet. If they count more than 15% blank votes they will get the message and realize that they can't jerk us around. The succesion rule doesn't mean anything at the first place. It's a scam. Don't let them jerk you around, Kitty.

Zaphira 6. June 2009, 20:44

Thanks for explaining this!

Does the 15 % rule go for the other voting too, Lion?

Aqualion 7. June 2009, 07:08

No. I would never advice anybody how to vote in a strictly elective voting like the EU-voting, it's personal and democratic. You have to decide yourself. The succesion rules have absolutely nothing to do with equal rights. Grundloven has no paragraphs concerning equal rights between men and women. If the government really wanted to 'write' equality into the constitution they would have to change the entire thing. This will not happen with the current government, because Dansk Folkeparti don't want to have any kind of 'human rights' added to Grundloven. Fascists don't believe in human rights, you know.

act2bmp 10. June 2009, 22:46

Hi, reading through all this I will not be voting for the crooked Members of a uk or our eu government reps! If anything I read I see so many caught up in "like they give a shite about what us think!" believing it will get better ? I'm getting mine better first now and only because I live in the uk and I am one of the lucky few(?) some may say its still shite but av been to shiter round the place!
But you walk alone if you don't play there Game!

I wish voting in the hands real people "who see £150.000+ enough to get for the H.A jobs they do here in the uk first
"I find there a bunch of thieves with the power to do what they do, at best an ear to talk to with no ideas other than GTF out of there really or its "how dare you ask anything you daft Geordie"? BTW lush blog :jester:

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