Art for Arts sake
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 6:18:43 AM
She meant well, the cleaning Assistant at Ostwall Museum in Dortmund, Germany.
She removed a faint mark of paint from deceased artist Martin Kippenberger's sculpture "Wenn's anfang durch die Decke zu Tropfen" (When it starts dripping from the ceiling).

Problem is that the paint dollops were put on the tray deliberately by the artist. He wanted to represent a dried puddle of rainwater.

A spokesman for the museum says that the sculpture is ruined, and since the artist is dead it cannot be reconstructed. The sculpture, which was loaned to the museum by a private collector, is insured for six million dollars.
The spokesman emphasizes that the cleaning staff had been specifically told to stay at least 20 centimetres from the exhibited works of art, but it is unclear whether the zealous cleaning assistant received the message.
It is actually not the first time cleaning staff in museums have been a wee bit eager:
In 1986 a cleaner removed what he assumed was a stain or two on an expensive piece by the much revered Joseph Beuys, exhibited in Düsseldorf. The piece was a dirty bathtub, The cleaner just went ahead and cleaned it.
In 2004, a cleaner threw a bag containing rubbish (part of an artwork created by the German Gustav Metzger) in the trash, believing that it was waste. It wasn't. The artist declared the piece ruined, and created a new bag full of rubbish to replace it. Ironically, the exhibit was designed with the intention of demonstrating the finite existence of art.
In 2001, Damien Hirst experienced something similar in a gallery in London. His work included a collection of empty bottles, dirty ashtrays, paint tins and coffee cups. He wanted to illustrate the chaos of an artist's studio. It all ended up in the garbage container. The cleaner : "As soon as I clapped eyes on it I sighed because there was so much mess. I didn't think for a second that it was a work of art - it didn't look much like art to me. So I cleared it all into bin-bags and dumped it."
Bravo! So I am not the only one who doesn't know about art.
She removed a faint mark of paint from deceased artist Martin Kippenberger's sculpture "Wenn's anfang durch die Decke zu Tropfen" (When it starts dripping from the ceiling).

Problem is that the paint dollops were put on the tray deliberately by the artist. He wanted to represent a dried puddle of rainwater.

A spokesman for the museum says that the sculpture is ruined, and since the artist is dead it cannot be reconstructed. The sculpture, which was loaned to the museum by a private collector, is insured for six million dollars.
The spokesman emphasizes that the cleaning staff had been specifically told to stay at least 20 centimetres from the exhibited works of art, but it is unclear whether the zealous cleaning assistant received the message.
It is actually not the first time cleaning staff in museums have been a wee bit eager:
In 1986 a cleaner removed what he assumed was a stain or two on an expensive piece by the much revered Joseph Beuys, exhibited in Düsseldorf. The piece was a dirty bathtub, The cleaner just went ahead and cleaned it.
In 2004, a cleaner threw a bag containing rubbish (part of an artwork created by the German Gustav Metzger) in the trash, believing that it was waste. It wasn't. The artist declared the piece ruined, and created a new bag full of rubbish to replace it. Ironically, the exhibit was designed with the intention of demonstrating the finite existence of art.
In 2001, Damien Hirst experienced something similar in a gallery in London. His work included a collection of empty bottles, dirty ashtrays, paint tins and coffee cups. He wanted to illustrate the chaos of an artist's studio. It all ended up in the garbage container. The cleaner : "As soon as I clapped eyes on it I sighed because there was so much mess. I didn't think for a second that it was a work of art - it didn't look much like art to me. So I cleared it all into bin-bags and dumped it."
Bravo! So I am not the only one who doesn't know about art.








FlaRin # Wednesday, November 16, 2011 11:56:42 AM
in 2006 a dude tripped over his shoelace at Cambridge's Fitzwilliam Museum (in the U.K.) and fell down a central staircase, colliding with three 300-year-old Chinese vases and shattering them. The large decorative vases dated back to the Qing dynasty in the 17th century and were some of the museum's most valuable pieces, worth in the region of 800,000 pounds.
The man was unharmed. Phew!!
Freya RedFreya # Wednesday, November 16, 2011 1:58:45 PM
Dan Alexandrudantesoft # Wednesday, November 16, 2011 2:35:51 PM
KittyliciousZaphira # Wednesday, November 16, 2011 3:02:16 PM
@ Freya ~ I don't claim to know anything about art, but I do know what I like and especially what I don't like, and I'm obviously not going to pay for some of the latter...
@ Dan ~ I'm so pleased it was subtitled.
DHdarkesthour # Wednesday, November 16, 2011 7:40:58 PM
Mad Scientistqlue # Wednesday, November 16, 2011 9:24:26 PM
Mad Scientistqlue # Wednesday, November 16, 2011 9:27:13 PM
Martin K™Aqualion # Thursday, November 17, 2011 1:47:20 PM
FlaRin # Thursday, November 17, 2011 3:03:26 PM
Dark FurieFurie # Thursday, November 17, 2011 6:36:57 PM
The way I see it is this; if you're going to value what amounts to an ashtray with a splodge of paint in it at six million then you need your head read as it isn't worth that and the effort wasn't put in. If you're going to infer the value from the meaning behind it then each of us is an unpublished artist worth millions and that still shouldn't stand out except as a bad way to express such meaning. Art has become less about talent and more about shocking people and standing out from the crowd these days. The word that best describes it is one that is so often used around art - pretentious.
Spaggyj # Friday, November 18, 2011 2:23:35 AM
Originally posted by darkesthour:
Yes, yes it does. Seriously, that constitutes art these days is fucking absurd. *shakes head*
DHdarkesthour # Friday, November 18, 2011 2:34:26 AM
Martin K™Aqualion # Friday, November 18, 2011 11:45:13 AM
KYrenKYren # Saturday, November 19, 2011 3:51:59 AM
Bad WolfCois # Saturday, November 19, 2011 4:50:27 AM
Mad Scientistqlue # Saturday, November 19, 2011 7:01:24 AM