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Another anti-competitive move by Microsoft

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I am sure by now most people would have heard about the new Microsoft Office live, aka Microsoft Office in a browser.

From Wikipedia

Microsoft Office Live is a set of Internet-based services designed for consumers and small businesses interested in creating a website or storing and sharing documents online. As of 2009, it consists of two services, Office Live Workspace and Office Live Small Business



It looks cool right? No as long you got access to a browser you are able to use Microsoft Office, without paying for it. Well that is so wrong. Because currently Microsoft Office Live only works for Windows (FireFox and IE browsers only) and Mac (Safari and FireFox browsers only). So a big "fuck you" if you using ANY other browsers in windows or if you not using Windows at all, you can dream about using this Microsoft service.

This caught my interest because I remember in November/December 2009, when Google was demonstration their Chrome OS they managed to use Office Live on Chrome Web Browser, but now magically it doesnt work. You can do a few quick searches around google/yahoo/bing/etc and find out that OfficeLive use to work for ANY webbrowser and ANY Operating System.

Now for those who are tech-savvy, there is a method to check if REALLY it doesn't work on other Browsers/Operating Systems as Microsoft says. It involves modifying the UserAgent-String ( a list of User Agent String can be found here:- http://www.useragentstring.com ).

Depending on your browser you are using there are different methods to change the User-Agent String. For Opera you can go to the about:config and find the user agent strings there and change it. For google chrome and firefox there is an extension/plugin for it. (Just search the keyword, User Agent)

Just remember to change to something which reflects the following requirements:-

Office Live Workspace requires an Internet-connected computer running Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, Windows Vista, Windows 7, or Mac OS X 10.2.x and later. It works with the following browsers:
Internet Explorer 6.0 or later
Firefox 2.0 or later
Safari 3.0 or later



After you change the User-Agent String, you will see that Offive Live now magically works. So what does this tell you, either Microsoft is purposely blocking it or that they got shitty programmers who cannot program according to open web standards or maybe even they jealous of other Operating Systems/Web Browsers. Remember if it really doesnt work in other web browsers, you can just put a warning, "blah blah blah might not work, proceed at your own risk", but here we have Microsoft just block you out straight.

Another Anti-Trust case might open soon?? Maybe in the EU *wink wink*

A good way for Google to kill Internet Explorer

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Google has a service (written in their App Engine of course) which allows users to give feedback on variety of Google products (example Youtube, Igoogle, Google Reader, Gmail, etc). Recently there has been alot of buzz that Youtube 2.0 whcih will be updated by Mid this year should have HTML5 support and completely remove the Flash dependency.

While I am not going to go into the details of which format is better or which is worst, I would like to state if google does do this, it will be a good way to kill off internet explorer (all versions). Since ALL most major browsers makers (Mozilla, Opera, Google, etc) have HTML5 video support except Microsoft's flagship internet explorer, when people visit youtube with IE, it will probably state "Download a more standard browser". Since there are tons of people dependent on youtube for their source of trailers, anime, game reviews, etc etc, this will certain CUT Internet Explorer in terms of market share ALOT.

While it is still to be said if Google will do this, but I am guessing they might just do it.

Even Opera has noticed this : http://my.opera.com/chooseopera/blog/2010/01/13/vote-for-html5-theora-support-at-youtube-to-promote-open-standards

The "Great" Internet Explorer 8

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Internet Explorer 8

What I think about IE8, besides saying it sucks, sucks and sucks. Well frankly, IE8 is not as bad as say IE7 or IE6, but IE8 has the inherited the same dam problem that the previous IE's all have, which is following standards. Currently all other major browsers can get 100/100 for Acid3 test (Opera, Safari and Chrome) with Firefox a little behind with 93/100, but IE8 is only 20/100.

As a web developer I sometimes get annoyed as each different IE has it's own set of problems. IE6 had problem x, IE7 had problem y, and IE8 has problem z. It doesn't help that whatever develop for IE might work for IE but breaks in every other web browsers (Firefox, Opera, Safari and Chrome), but whatever developed for other web browsers works well within non-IE browsers.

Time for me to do some analysis on Microsoft's website ( http://www.microsoft.com/windows/internet-explorer/get-the-facts/browser-comparison.aspx ).

Security – Microsoft claims IE8 takes the cake for security, where most security websites will prove that most web browsers have the same amount of security flaws. (refering to the comparison of security of Firefox VS IE at http://secunia.com/ ). All web browsers have security problems, it is really lame for Microsoft to claim that their web browser is the best. (Well all web browser companies do that). So this point is clearly wrong.

Privacy – IE8's InPrivate Browsing, this is a real RIP-OFF from Google Chrome Incognito mode. Here is the best part, Microsoft claims that google doesnt have it. Wander what kind of researches they have at Redmond, clearly lazy ones who didnt try pressing ctrl + shift + n in Chrome before

Ease of Use – This clearly is not IE, as much as I love Opera, I can admit the most simple to use browser is Chrome. Again another lie.

Web Standards – Microsoft claims IE support web standards??? Bull shit, it really amazes me that this software giant cant even come close to 90+/100 in acid3 test when nearly every other web browser can.

Developer Tools – Yea right, every web browser has developer tools for it. Sure IE claims to be out of the box, but isnt that just a plain waste of space, after all how many people will actually use it. It should be separated, after all developers can easily download what they need, there are savvy enough.

Reliability - Only Internet Explorer 8 has both tab isolation and crash recovery features; Firefox and Chrome have one or the other. Again, best crash feature recovery is Chrome, as much as I hate to admit, Microsoft again lied.

Customization – Seriously? IE's addons aren't really that great. Besides you still can't change the skin.

Compatibility - Internet Explorer 8 is more compatible with more sites on the Internet than any other browser.? Seriously, I wonder why Microsoft included the IE7 emulator mode, it is because most sites ARENT compatible with IE8.

Manageability - Neither Firefox nor Chrome provide guidance or enterprise tools. Again this is BULLSHIT. Google and Mozilla does provide it.

With all this comparison, did you notice that Microsoft didnt bother to compare with Opera or even Safari?? I wonder why. I know Safari is about the same as Chrome, (powered by WebKit), but why didnt they compare to Opera? Scared people might know there is a better alternative??

Opera has all the things mentioned above, from skins, widgets (plugins/addons), web-standards (infact they always insist on it), developer tools (Dragonfly) to enterprise tools. I guess it is true what they say, Microsoft does like to spread FUD. (Fear , Uncertainty and Doubt). Shame on such a company. I am kinda glad that they lost the case regarding IE with the EU. I have no quarrel with Windows, but Internet Explorer is really going down the drain. Every other web browser is improve and gaining more market share, IE is decreasing day by day. I think Microsoft needs to do a bit of soul searching regarding their crappy browser.

IF I WERE TO REVIEW IE8 AND COMPARE IT TO OTHER BROWSERS ILL RATE IT 5/10

- Haresh

Web Browser Wars at BarCamp Melaka 2009

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Web Browser Wars: A comparison of web browsers

This is a summary of one of the presentations I did at BarCamp Melaka 2009 at Multimedia University which took place on the 14th and 15th of November. The topic of my presentation is as stated above, I was quite lucky that my session got over 50+ people out of the 170 people who attended the BarCamp.

Basically I began by introducing myself and then introducing the top 5 web browsers (Base on Market share). I explained that I will not be going into above the top 5 as there will be too many to compare and I could not do all that in 1 hour. The web browsers that I choose to compare are as followed:- Mozilla FireFox 3.5, Microsoft Internet Explorer 8, Google Chrome, Apple's Safari and last but not least Opera Software's Opera.

I started off by asking which web browsers most people use, the response I got was quite shocking, out of the 50+ people in the room, none of them even mentioned using Internet Explorer 8 or below. Some however did admit that they use Internet Explorer at work as their workstations didnt allow them to install additional softwares or that even the web application that they are using are only Internet Explorer compatible. (Worst still, it was only IE6 compatible.)

After that I went to introduce each of the web browsers one by one to the audience, I gave my take on each of them. I went though the pros and cons of each browser, without trying to be bias. The only browser I had a problem giving thumbs up was well again Internet Explorer 8. Seriously it got to be one of the hardest to praise, I only could think of disadvantages of using IE8.

Once I explained my take on all the top 5 web browsers. I went and gave my ranking of the browsers (this is just my opinion, if you have a different take, it is ok)

  • 1st – Opera – Comes with almost everything out of the box without installing plugins. First to come up with features that other browsers follow.
  • 2nd – Google Chrome – Simple and Clean, love the interface and the speed of browsing. Also love the ability to sandbox each of the tabs.
  • 3rd – Mozilla Firefox – Tons of plugins, but giving a bit of memory leak problems. Still good in security sense.
  • 4th – Apple's Safari – Nothing much since I dont own a Mac or use Windows a lot.
  • 5th – Microsoft Internet Explorer – Nothing good to say (Also only for Windows).


I explained why I think Opera is one of the best web browsers between the 5. The main reason is that Opera is one of the first web browser to go into the cloud with both it's Opera Link and Opera Unite services. I explained Opera Link and Opera Unite in detailed and also mentioned some other features such as Speed Dial and Mouse Gestures.

After all that I took some questions and answers. One of the questions required me to explain how opera turbo functions which I gladly answered. Once all is done I gave away some Opera pens (Sponsored by Opera Software) to the audience.

Presentation Slides:- http://files.myopera.com/Zentarien/files/Web%20Browser%20Wars.pdf

Pictures can be found on my facebook profile, tons of people took pictures of this event and tagged me smile