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Life in AbruzzoAfter several years living in Abruzzo, working here and experiencing all the ups and downs we feel we talk about it with open eyes and a deal of experience.........

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intersting article about how the spanish view the expat invasion

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Spanish illegal homes pressure group AUAN (Abusos Urbanisticos Almanzora NO) has lost its case against a minister in the Andalucian government who it alleged had made xenophobic comments about the plight of “homeowners” in the region.

The Superior Court of Justice rejected an appeal from AUAN upholding a previous judgement that Josefina Cruz, the Andalucian government's public works and planning minister, had not acted illegally when commenting on the housing situation affecting thousands of British expats in Almeria.

In a parliamentary debate in March this year Cruz called the illegal homes situation:

“An intrusion of people... who are not of this country, who have settled here illegally and have shown a lack of respect for the culture of the territory, for the culture of the landscape and the culture of planning... and are now demanding that we solve a problem that they are responsible for having created."

She later clarified her position in an interview with British newspaper Costa Almeria News:

"My comments mean exactly what they say: foreigners who have built illegal houses in Andalucia have shown no respect for us.

"I find it incredible that one seeks to defend people who have committed illegal acts."



A recent study carried about by the Spanish government identified 12,697 "irregular" constructions in the Almanzora Valley, the majority belonging to British expats who had bought their homes in good faith.

920 of these homes were found on specially protected land, were less than four years old or were incomplete and have been earmarked for demolition.

The remaining 11,777 homes will be subject to a special decree, currently being worked on by government officials, to define a uniform set of procedures that would allow them to be granted an occupation license and obtain access to services in a manner described as "self-sufficient", making it clear that the occupants would incur all costs.



Maura Hillen, president of AUAN says she will accept the verdict but believes Cruz’s actions are politically irresponsible:

"We have to abide by the decision of the Supreme Court, and though the words are not regarded as criminally reprehensible, we consider them to be at least politically reprehensible, and have no doubt that this will be taken into account in the polls."



Mark Goodwin of Spanish estate agency, First Property Choice goes further.

“What a joke”, he says.

“She makes out British expats to be latter day vikings, raping the landscape and ignoring the "clear and easy to understand planning consent" laws.

Her comments are ill conceived, deeply offensive and will undo any of the progress recently made in terms of PR for overseas investors thinking about putting cash into Spain”.



The comments of Cruz and the negative publicity they have generated are badly timed for the Spanish authorities. On the 4th May the government launched a series of European road shows promoting the benefits of Spanish property.

The road shows have been criticized by campaign for not addressing current grievances such as the failure of some banks to make good on their “bank guarantees” on failed developments.

Source: Global edge

punta penna vasto, new power station and proposed new high tension lines through 17 comunes

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just been asked to join this page on face book... to be honest its a good way of keeping in touch with what goes on here... i get sagres and problems notified to me quite regularly and invited to all sorts of strange bits and pieces..

anyway this is about a biomass center planned in a place called punta penna near vasto.. in essence it would seem to be a reasonable solution to what is a big problem for all the western rubbish producing nations and Italy does produce a faiir bit of rubbish and lacks behind many other countries in its continuing use of non sustainable material use which then goes into land fills.. burning safe stuff is obviously one solution although the problem with Italy in general is that what seems like an honest and good attempt at sustainable development often turns out to be something completely different..

anyway this is planned for Vasto and it doesn't really make much sense to me but it seems that the provincial politicians of Chieti at the moment seem intensely interested in developments that have to do with rubbish,oil and gas.. no doubt in a few years time someone will be arrested for it all , which seems to be another usual part of Italian political life

anyway its worth a look for those interested in life in Abruzzo ...

facebook protest group against bio mass complex near vasto

the other bit of news which might be of interest to many looking for places to buy in Abruzzo is a meeting held yesterday

new high tension electric lines planned

this is all about a new electric line to be built at heights of pylons up to 80 mt and 70 km long about to be built by abruzzoenergia spa bewteen pescara (colline della pescara) to vasto terminating at Gissi where the turbo gas center is..its crossing 17 comunes and its obviously a high tension main supply type of project, the ones that hum and buzz all the time..

anyway it seems that combined with the bio mass project for vasto and the turbo gas production of energy already there that unlike many ideas that come to the fore and rumors this one looks to be logically about to happen.. there is already a generating plant there.. another one proposed that burns rubbish.. and they have to get it into the main grid somehow.. and the Pescara valley area has already plenty of high tension grid lines to take it around the area..

another thing that in normal areas one might accept as quite a valuable and green effort to produce sustainable energy is also often used in Italy for other reasons.. not talking Abruzzo right now ... wind turbine energy production.. several big scandals written on that in recent months and people arrested in the south and rome because of it.. everyone knows naples and rubbish and camorra(mafia)

what is not obvious is the scope and involvement of all the mafias in the rubbish trade in Italy, you can pretty well accept without question that their money funds rubbish collection and disposal through out Italy.. so what have wind turbines which are clean got to do with it.. well in sicily getting planning permits to construct and build in certain areas is very difficult even for cosa nostra, their home grown mafia.. so what they have done is set up green energy companies situated in rome and funded by them.. these companies are building the massive amounts of wind turbines that now line the sicilian landscape .. which have been allowed to be built in previously protected areas.. the long term aim is that once protected areas have these built there is no longer the usual defense argument against investment in other cement projects because the area is already developed... much like when a motorway is built it soon gets surrounded by new builds.... so the long term aim of this mafia investment is to make previously unavailable land available for them.. and a new place to dump waste before building over ..

anyway much as i support wind turbines as a source of clean energy.. am not sure i would be happy here in Italy to see any being built anywhere near to me... the money behind it is not clean .. and the thinking behind the future use of the area is all to clear.. as we will most probably all see in the south in a few years time..
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Italian property trends September 2010

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The other night, yesterday in fact the latest figures for property sales in Italy were published.. not by estate agents but via the land registry

Numbers of sales have risen by almost 3 % over all and in terms of residential sales 4 % ..commercial sales are still stagnant.
Prices have risen by just over 1 %
Ok these are general Italian figures ..for instance Rome sales have risen by 23 % whilst Bologna – 7 %, so its not a complete picture of an area you live in.
Several factors help to maintain property market stability here. Credit, banks do not loan easily. There is no mentality of stretching yourselves beyond your earnings.
The other thing maintaining the market at the moment during times of crisis outside is the fact that there was a offer recently which allowed Italians with money outside in hidden accounts to bring it back into Italy without tax penalties, this money is not being kept in banks but is being invested in the property markets. Italians rightly still trust bricks and mortar above their often not quite so secure banks or investment market.
Enough frauds have taken place in the past to make them very wary. So there is lots of money floating around and lots of people buying to let, rentals do well here. Of course in the right place, cities and larger towns.
So all in all its a pretty good market, recovering well from a position that was never that bad in any case and times taken to sell have been cut back to times almost equivalent to times before the crisis hit the world.
Anyway Rome seems to be the place to buy , if you have a few million spare, not sure why its the place of the moment, its always been pricey but smart money seems to be heading that way.
Locally if anyone is interested again, things are also moving on in the right place, clients of ours debating over a difference of a couple of thousand euro just lost a property to a local farmer, maybe he was one of those that had brought back in some extra euro from abroad, they asked us why we had not said someone else was interested, in fact they had been told by both the owner and us there was, but who is going to believe that old story....
Teramo the city is full of university students once more and property here is always bought quickly as rentals easily pay mortgages.. and there are always a shortage of rentals.
Another story re L’Aquila surfaced this week , rentals there have more than tripled in price, its always been a very big part of the L’Aquila economy. Student rentals that is and the property market there in the city had always been very strong, with rentals almost comparing to Rome prices, now it costs even more, rentals that have been taken out since the earthquake have sometimes more than tripled , and when contracts come to an end the people are finding that increases of 100 % or more are being sort. There is an obvious shortage of housing, but its causing quite a stink that people there are complaining on one hand of no support and yet on the other anyone wanting to find a home or an office due to lack of space is having to pay so much.. how do you restart the local economy if no-one can afford to live in the properties left standing.
I wouldn’t say go and invest in property in L’Aquila, risks are too high, unless you know the right people.

Abruzzo Property Views

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Ok here are a few thoughts on Abruzzo 2010-08-26

To be honest it has been a positive year for us as the aftermath of the L’Aquila quake has resulted in people that are choosing to make a purchase i believe throughout Italy but specifically Abruzzo in my case are now more than aware that careful research need to be undertaken and its amazing the amount of our clients that have the web address of the INGV Italian seismic web site in their favourites. Teramo which once appeared to be expensive for no apparent reason in most peoples minds has suddenly been able to justify its price differential. In the past when we had touring clients they had either just come from or were going to the Province of L’Aquila and were comparing property values here against what could be bought there.

Despite offering to my mind quite logical reasons regarding the risks of buying in Seismic class 1 areas i was left with the clear impression that my thoughts and advice were seen as just estate agent talk in the sense of trying hard to sell here. These days people that come often ask without any prompting about earthquake risk and regulations regarding the structures they are interested in. They seem to understand that the intervention required on an old building in a high risk zone is going to be something that will add significantly to restoration costs often placing low priced properties well beyond their resources.

So Teramo has benefited as a province when it was clearly seen by the world as a whole that the majority of the people moved from L’Aquila in the immediate aftermath were place here in the Province of Teramo, some 45,000 initially, many of whom have made this province their permanent home ,as it is the only Province within Abruzzo with no class 1 seismic zones.

Typically now we have clients arriving that have chosen Teramo and most want hill side properties between the mountains and the sea. The type of property most sort at this time are those which will e suitable for a future business use, mainly bed and breakfast.

Bed and breakfast rules here are complicated but they do allow for a very easy tax regime, and if you start by following all the rules and regulations and adapting your property to those during any building interventions its possible to quite easily become legally registered here. They are popular not only with the non Italian holiday market but more and more so with domestic clients. Traditional seaside holidays are still taken but for shorter periods and days are kept back now for long weekends or weeks away outside the normal August coastal rush.

In many areas of Italy the largest growth in tourism is within the agriturismo and rural holiday type of vacation. Interest in regional food and national parks is growing hugely. Abruzzo is well placed to take advantage of this new interest and Teramo is benefiting as the closest Province to Rome on the coastal side of the Apennines is well placed to provide easy access not only for holiday trips but also second home owners with a short drive of ninety minutes from Rome.
Another significant interest this year for the first time is the amount of enquiries we get from the North of Italy. Northern city based Italians are looking to escape the ret race and find a better life style. A familiar story outside Italy but new to us. They ask lots of questions but are very current with all the bio diverse opportunities offered here in Italy via grants and are very knowledgeable on traditional construction work. They ask significant questions before viewing and want specific details ,for example they want the location of the property in terms of the comune and they view far fewer properties in a day. They seem to be more aware of distances and time taken, rarely viewing more than three properties in a day they ask for very clear facts about for example water supply. Foreigners seem to take it as read that a water company will supply them clean and continual water to a property. Italians know this in some areas is not true. So they want the name of the supply company. Italy has thousands of water companies, some good some terrible and water quality difficulties that make the water unsafe to drink in many areas. They use a legal loophole which gives them temporary permission to supply unsafe water whilst they are fixing a problem and then just keep extending it, for instance there is no safe water in the Pescara valley area supplied by the ACA water company. Other companies run out of water in the summer so for instance they stop water through the day. Hence they ask the name and then check.

Pescara has established new regular flights to Oslo so we are seeing increased Scandinavian interest as well, many already know the area well from previous summer beach holidays, many are looking for apartments inland slightly away from the coast, the advantages are a much lower price per square meter, a sense of being in a real Italian town or small village and views over the sea and mountains without the coastal chaos, whilst the beach is an easy bus ride away. Best sellers in this case are those apartments with large areas of outside space and with pools. Italian construction companies are putting more effort into research and are therefore building to suit these requirements.

All in all Abruzzo is benefiting from increased exposure due to the earthquake, which brought a huge number of international journalists to a region which few of them knew, and then they were amazed at the diversity and scope of our national parks, the fact that it is the greenest region in Italy is now a recorded fact with the national parks covering a higher percentage of the land than any other region. So green tourism here has been vastly increased adding to the interest in properties and lifestyles that include setting up businesses in that area, interest in the Gran Sasso area as an outdoor pursuit Mecca, horse riding, mountain biking, rock climbing, or just simple nature watch holidays are all becoming more popular. Themed holidays and experiences with truffle hunting, the sheep herding (transumanza) where weeks are spent on the ancient paths moving flocks between winter and summer pastures are all growing in popularity. This leads to people wanting to choose the life here for their future, either in retirement or in lifestyle change which is all helping to add interest into good well prepared sales of property.
So interest in Abruzzo has remained strong , even increased , tempered by world wide crisis problems but people are looking for secure places to buy having seen failures in many of the so called new hotspots they now want secure areas and Italy from centre to north provides a secure and steady growth area to buy. Property prices in these areas have remained steady with no perceivable drop in property values outside the main city area’s. Abruzzo has thankfully lost its hotspot status even if it ever had one, a small gold rush occurred with people taken in by very low prices but as in all cases when purchasing a property there is always a logical answer as to why property values are low, many have lost their homes in the province of L’Aquila, not destroyed but declared unsafe to live in and now cannot be used until interventions , often costly are undertaken, with solutions meaning that loose pretty stone walls now have to be caged in steel and sprayed with concrete. People amazingly are still going for areas of low cost, my advice to anyone thinking of purchasing here and thinking they have found an unbelievable bargain is to research the comune, even Wikipedia now gives the seismic status of each comune, check the water company, check local newspapers for arguments over planned developments. Do your research it will save you a lot of hindsight pain.

http://www.protezionecivile.it/cms/attach/editor/Classificazione2006_perRegione.pdf

this is a link from the civil protection group in Italy which classifies all communes in Italy and their seismic risk.
What i have noticed is that obviously L’Aquila was always heavily sold because of low prices and that has i believe seriously decreased as people have become aware of not only the risk but the costs that will be almost beyond most peoples budget in making safe any building in terms of money and time. What is clearly unknown and often concealed that there are many areas of both the province of Chieti and to a lesser extent that of Pescara that are equally at risk. Significantly you will find that seismic one areas in these two provinces are those where more properties are advertised and sold to non Italian buyers.
One of the main reasons that so many buildings collapsed in L’Aquila is that despite being classified as a class 1 zone the communes refused to implement class 1 safety regulations in their building controls. Italy has a funny legislative procedure, national rules are published and applied but then each province and region has to approve and accept them, neither L’Aquila or the provinces of Chieti and Pescara had done so. Now however things have changed and that means many places sold with say the promise of planning permission being easily attainable will now be almost impossible to get or if managed the structure will be very costly to build, way beyond the normal estimated 1500 euro per sq meter.
I know that this cannot be written about in a specific sense by anyone involved in overseas property sales as its obvious you or anyone else in that field would loose the majority of advertisers so am not expecting anything to change in that sense. Indeed i believe that people are quite happily led down garden paths into loosing money and life as long as it doesn’t cost them up front so in a sense their lack of interest and research in their planned projects here are their own faults. Property sales people do not have obligation to make sure people understand these problems, although the fact is that if a registered agent here is asked a specific question for example on risk then they have to give the correct answer. But then who can check .
Anyway its quite an interesting map of centres of ex pats here and most probably throughout Italy, they are all being sold property in hot zones which are class 1 seismic , not through choice but driven by property price and bargains. Sadly there is strong evidence and predictions of another quake to come in the Sulmona valle peligna area, this is based on evidence from satellite measurements of the movement of the marrone mountain area in the majella, one side of the fault there is moving perceptibly which is creating a huge pressure build up and there are even Italian forums discussing what measures can be taken to be safe.Because of the make up of the basin in that area and the surrounding mountain walls there is a real concern over the damage. Earthquakes are measured in acceleration terms, a bit like a rippling pond and this valley will allow very free acceleration towards the mountain sides and as they hit more solid rock the ripples will be returned at an increased rate over and over again. The consequence like the L’Aquila quake is that significant damage will be done far from the epicentre.. as in the case of Navelli due to these acceleration factors through soft valleys. Estimates are there will be another significant quake in the Sulmona,L’Aquila Rieti triangle within the next ten to 15 years. Which is how earthquakes are predicted, despite the denials about the possibility, L’Aquila was predicted in the sense that there was expected to be a significant quake in the area of L’Aquila within the next ten years. This was documented in 1999. There are three main areas where they expect quakes in Italy within the next ten years, these are called areas of significant risk by the civile protection group and they most probably already have response plans to deal with them, one is the above mentioned area Rieti,Sulmona,Aquila, the other is Friuli and finally one down Calibria Sicily way... there was a big one there in the sea a while back which might be a clue as to something starting..historically there are very defined gaps between quakes in history so areas are quite easy to identify.

Anyway its there for all to see, mainly in Italian. So if you hear of any of your friends buying in any of those areas a friendly word might get them to do a bit of research first.

A final word.. we did research.. it was not easy i didn’t understand so much Italian then or even realise where to look, but the that campobasso quake made me aware and i looked before we moved here. Our choice was based on that as well as other factors regarding Teramo to do with education, pollution,climate,coast and quakes. Its the only province in Abruzzo with no class 1 rated communes, indeed if you look all the way along the Adriatic most probably the only province in Italy defined with no high risk areas. I believe this is to do with the gran sasso, something to do with the geology here caused the highest mountain to be pushed up when the earths plates were moving.. i believe its because the plate that Teramo is on is significantly more fixed than many other areas, so we have no major fault lines.

Well more than you asked for... and maybe not a lot of relevancy to your original question .. maybe it will give you some food for thought..

hot weather

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We are arriving at the end of August and the weather seems to be getting hotter and hotter, 37 c today. Which is good but sometimes you would like a bit of relief. Funny thing here is there are no water restrictions and yet we get very little rain this side of the Apennines in the summer. I record reading somewhere that Tuscany gets more rain than Manchester for example.Its true it always seems to be damp and misty there outside of a few summer months and one wonders why people choose to live in such cold damp areas when they give the reason for leaving the UK as the weather.
Another thing i read recently was an article from Ireland which made me laugh a bit,property journalists pushing areas so that people invest in very odd projects are about to be sued over their advice.Maybe this will put a stop to the paid days that they take abroad to recommend products from the people paying them and write it up as independent views.
I have some sympathy with both sides and if people believe who and what they read about without question they are obviously not really aware of how the current world works. I think this story carries a more sinister side, that the journalists actually had vested interests beyond just a few backhanders to promote some of these areas. It happens here with Calabrian developments a lot. Luckily Italy has never reached Spanish rip off proportions essentially because it is not popular enough. But Calabrian off plan projects carry more risk than any other investment here and more vested promotion via news and magazines.

Castel di Sangro

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We visited this part of Abruzzo yesterday, its an area we know well, my in laws have a summer house there, what always astonishes i guess is the size of this region, we live just outside of Teramo and it takes us two hours to drive the 180 km.

The route takes in Pescara,Chieti and Sulmona, brief glimpses only, but the extraordinary thing is how everything changes through your journey.

The A14 coastal motorway from where we pick it up at giulianova with its traffic this time of year, but also its wonderful hedges, its almost like driving through a landscaped garden with the sea shining blue to one side and the olive groves,vineyards and rolling hills, golden yellow with sun flowers or harvested grain fields.

From Pescara the A25 inland to Sulmona.. the landscape changes to harsh almost bleak terrain, a much harder landscape, less traffic now... and the temps drop as you turn towards Sulmona..climb out of the valley it almost feels like winter as you arrive to the high plain that leads you through to Rocarasso..

What impresses the most when you finally reach Castel di Sango is how developed it is in terms of tourism. Loads of people that obviously appreciate the fresher air and the mountain climate , walking fishing and cycling.

What it lead me to think of is why the coastal side provinces seem to put all their efforts and investment into the coast, when they have the advantage f the national parks and high mountain areas that draw a different but more sustainable tourism . That would allow far less remote areas than Castel di Sangro to grow and prosper keeping young people in their communities and letting them thrive...

Maybe the problem is that the coastal lobby will not allow investments to be made away from the beaches, or is it just a simpler choice, it takes litle imagination to keep developing and pouring funds into areas that have always done well, a bit more thought might make the people that govern the region see that the thin coastal strip is a finite resource, continual development will eventually destroy the area, already flood problems because drainage cannot cope, fields and green belts being encroached on. Sad really when there is such a wealth of opportunity further inland a chance to tidy up and build sustainable and resourceful tourist villages utilizing existing abandoned areas and taking advantage of a world trend amongst discerning holiday makers to take holidays with their young families in healthy areas that allow them to return to the basic good values of healthy air and healthy food.

Is there no-one in this region that sees the waste of continual cementification along the coast, that it is full now to overflow, that inland they have a wasted resource that needs life breathed in to it and that if they researched their markets properly this is the future of tourism, and that starting now although late will provide the region as a whole with something to grow from and a future to many lost and dying communities

Cut to national parks budget

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With 23 national parks covering 5 % of the total of Italy they are an important resource. With spending cuts being announced in every field of life here its really not surprising the national parks would have their funding cut, the cut though is quite extreme, 50 %.

For Abruzzo its quite big news, many are employed, many have taken for granted that grants in these areas will or would have always been available, often to maintain small rural communities that might well have dwindled and died without help.

If i look at how it all works here am not actually sure its a bad thing to happen.The National parks in many central and especially southern areas are a national disgrace. The grants and funding skimmed off for personal use and areas being eaten away by forest fires set to allow developers to build within their boundaries.

Huge amounts of money being taken and not spent on tourist facilities but cash for the boys..useless unmeasured spending on projects which are never sustained, millions of web sites set up with park money and then never kept up to date, local and national administrators handing out funds to friends without any real qualifications in land management, tourism or nature.

So the gold mine is finished , supplies cut off, will it lead to more measured investment, more control over how and what is spent. I doubt it.Those that skimmed all the benefits due to their communities and their heritage will still take the lions share.

Hopefully what will happen is that people truly and honestly involved in the parks and the people that live in the comunes will see that the little money left is not arriving and they will at long last report the people that are stealing and squandering now precious resources and people will be taken to account.

I blame more the fact that people are just so used to grant money being stolen,misused or just plain wasted that nothing is ever done to stop it. Hopefully now with scarcer resources they will wake up and report facts. If only there was a real will here to do something to be proud of instead of always hoping to gain a few euros for free. They do not seem to realize nothing is free, it comes out of all our pockets.

The stupid thing and the saddest thing is that if they had invested the huge sums from previous years they would have millions of more visitors, thousands of more jobs and communities thriving instead of dying.Instead they squabble over bears eating lambs, and poison them, wolves moving down from the higher plains and disturbing them. Poaching and poisoning a way of life. Cement blocks of tourist centers. Sights of natural beauty without a simple restroom area or any facilities for hikers to eat,rest, you tell me the last place you saw a baby changing room in a national park facility here.


Staff that resent answering questions if they are ever at work, because this is their third or fourth job with a guaranteed pension, so attendance is generally impossible due to other job commitments where they might well be compelled to attend.

A horrible joke in most instances that is typical of instant greed and lack of foresight here, which means so many national monuments either man made or natural are never taken full advantage of and promoted in a sustainable way. Italy has so much natural wealth, shame on the people that run the associations and groups which are supposed to promote and sustain. Running expensive TV adverts and taking overseas trips to countries with no hope of tourist interest here to promote broad pictures of natural beauty but when people do visit the reality is dangerous paths, no signs and no facilities if you ever do manage to find the well hidden treasure that has been pictured for you.

Knowing what to say

I guess i think sometimes too hard about what to say and then say nothing, my new philosophy is to stop thinking and stop worrying about what others think, well its hardly new in that respect, but often i try to create something by planning it too much.
So now my new attempt at blogging without thinking.
I get so furious sometimes about what appears to go on here in my chosen area of the world to live in. It seems that there is so much new interest which has led to almost a mass "rape" of what the region has to offer. People using headline stories to promote websites,books,hotels or whatever. Bad headlines used by political marginalized parties here to get newspaper headlines and try to regain lost powers at the expense of the regions attempts to promote the area as the Green heart of Italy.
Actually it should be the Green heart of Europe, very few areas anywhere in old type western Europe can offer an area where more of the region is under the control of national park lands and its diversity of both fauna and flora. many unique species that mean that Abruzzo can rightly clai to have more of a divers natural habitat than any other place in Europe.
All well and good but what gets me pissed off is the way some people pretend to live here and run web advertising campaigns that at the very least mis-lead at the worst take advantage of things like the L'Aquila earthquake to increase sales.
I even see that one rental property because its down a side alley with no sun on google maps is using a house we know very well as its advertisement picture. How sad is that and what do people say when they get there and find they are stuck in a shaded hovel not in an open and bright property just next door.
Apart from that i have seen onions being harvested in June, tomatoes in May and weather reports based on meteo sites rather than if you live here and know for sure it hasn't rained that day.
Other areas that get to me are so called expert advisors on forums that pretend all is well and offer advise that is based on nothing. I just saw some mis-fortunate thanking someone for finding them a house, they had just lost their first purchased property in a pile of rubble in L'Aquila and now were being led down the garden path once more and had been persuaded by an agency in Chieti to buy a property there.In another clas 1 seismic zone.Am sure the unfortunate people had not been informed of this and that the mountain they were buying on is being constantly monitored as its movement is causing quite a bit of concern amongst geologists here who are predicting a problem in that area.
So what do you do, well i sort of get angry and feel like saying something and then shut up, here i have my private views and so feel freer to express them. A pressure release valve so that i do not get into trouble on other sites that often have very dubious reasons behind their operations and are loathe to accept critical comments.
In fact one big site on face book Italy Magazine has removed my option to comment as it does not go down well with their commercial side, telling everyone how wonderful everything is here in order to sell advertising space to property sellers.
Thats despite the fact that they were closely associated with a major scam in Calabria where many lost their deposits via a closely linked UK law firm. They dont want the truth on these things to appear whilst they are still selling more developments in an area where not even Italians would attempt to buy.

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