Opera Add-ons

Unite is such a great feature. Stop Widgets and Extensions. If I wanted that crap I would use F***f**, but I don't see the advance of a browser bloated by worthless extensions.

Opera Unite and Opera Widgets were the only reasons why I installed Opera. Now I will just stick to Chromium 100%.

To date we have collected 27 signatures wanting to bring "Open Opera United" two great services we are trying to save.
Remember spread the word and sign. When enough signatures are collected the data will be sent to Opera for review.

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/openoperaunited/

This project had a lot of potential, I hope enough consideration was given to this decision.

Unite had filesharing that I constantly used to send clients large documents or letting them drop them to me.

I used notes and task manager to give my sales force tasks they could see anywhere they were.

The lounge was also very useful to have a quick chat without installing any kind of software.

All were rough, but I though this was because the project was just starting... not dying!!

I could envision a simple CRM combining unite and mail to notify tasks and keep track of sales...or a series of pictures that could be bulk downloaded by family and friends, let's say for a wedding.

Opera had a competitive advantage with this services, they had to work (many never really work so not many people used them for anything than playing around) but would become invaluable for anyone.

Widgets...they run separately from the browser, that was a great feature, I use the notepad always, now I'll have to install windows or yahoo widgets instead.

It's just sad.

It's sad that Opera is getting rid of the two things that made Opera truly unique - now its features just look the same as all the other browsers. I always thought Opera was commited to innovation, but it seems I was wrong.

It's funny that you mention cross platform extensions for Opera because that's why I'd just started using the widgets - the only truly cross platform implementation. It least it used to be.

But I'm really upset Unite is going, it had so much potential, it was revolutionary, I couldn't wait to start using it. But you let it die almost as soon as it was released. You didn't try to enhance it at all. Just think what could have been done with (for instance) built in PHP - it would have been truly programmable, we could have run our own websites just by installing Opera, had our own Facebook, communicating securely from our own computers to just the people we wanted to... now it's gone, the idea died before its time.

All that's left is what everyone else is doing. This is a sad day.



Maybe there's still time to change you mind (if you must ditch something try the email client, it just seems pointless.)

Opera Unite is one of the best unique features in opera. Whether there is any alternative to unite?

Originally posted by mwilco:

if you must ditch something try the email client, it just seems pointless

web + mail + feeds is how I've been enjoying my internet experience through Opera since the last millenium!

(And I'm sure there are a large number of us using Opera for all three basic net functions...)

M2 was far ahead of the rest when it first came along - the ability to search all your mail in a variety of ways... back in the days before GMail etc. even existed! *This* is the kind of development Opera used to do best - and I would include Unite as one of those revolutionary ideas (along with Turbo and Opera Link).

Originally posted by mwilco:

(if you must ditch something try the email client, it just seems pointless.)

NO!!!! That's my only email client! I use that to consolidate my dozen or so email accounts and my several dozen RSS feeds! I couldn't LIVE without Opera Mail!

The email client is here to stay, there's even some new features in Opera 12 Beta.

Opera 12 must die if it without Opera Unite.

Originally posted by doclinux:

Opera 12 must die if it without Opera Unite.

I agree with you!!!

And it gets worse, in the MAC version took out the IRC chat, torrent, and some bars.

I already started to migrate to SeaMonkey, because at this rate will not be anything of Opera.

Might be the reason Unite was not used So much is that this feature most opera users did not know how to take advantage of this. + there was always kind of something missing that keep me away from it, perhaps because it did not run stand alone mode from menu ?
Had few and more ideas how to make users more know about unite (well, about Opera in general..) but will re think them a bit now

Might be the marketing as main problem here - we did not know how to market these features enough so users would see them as awesome as they might become. We did not share out our revolutionary ideas what was in our mind ..
Maybe most just see it as it is? And will drop it after first up to 5 minutes, at best if it does not interest person or if one can not see instantly how to use it in their life. Might be we a bit sleep as well..

Now its just matter of time when chrome and some others come out with new unheard-of features like file-sharing from browser and what else.:D
I would like it.

Actually would have wanted to meditate longer on this Unite feature, newer got any time on that as of all the other things that was needed. But it did seem like one (last and) easiest way to privately share / chat.
In these times where data sharing is under some threat, or at least under fear - free-willingly leaving feature that promotes freedom out.. is kind of harsh for these few hardcore fans.. unless pretty similar/better solution for same thing appears from extensions or from standalone plugins that nearly as easy to adopt.
Of-course, there might have been concerns that the file hosting/maintaining service was costing resources by him self to much - but i believe there is good solutions for that, with co-operation..

People have habits (and same time they do not like new most of the time..), and for so big add-on - in general we need some other tricks to get people to use it. To see the benefits, i am pretty sure there was ton of people who had opera in computer and was searching some ways how to share files they have in computer. :D.. not even mentioning all the others who did not have Opera, eg most of the world.

Sharing opera (and why not linux) is like doing the work that Mormons do (last ones just seem to have now more success looking latest trends in US), but work is as hard - one by one converting, holding hand, arguing, fighting, explaining, slipping in to users computer and installing Opera if needed and promoting it by random chance or waiting when other browser irritates user to jump in with the Good Message... but even that is not enough often
as some totally silly things are totally missing for some strange reason from every version of opera. Last one did not remember form data, did not have good auto complete, the password manager was accessible only for the ones who know how to add the login button to the browser, not mentioning all the other great features that most users simply have no clue about as there was kind of missing the "beginner user more for 3 weeks with Nice tool-tips and help to promote all the features(can be turned off for ˇadvancedˇ users).
Lets not forget that the one who downloads version 11 also needs promotion to all the other old features that one has no idea, not just what is new for that version.

Remember one time when i wanted to promote how cool opera is as one reads for me news by voice and then discovered this feature is not in linux, but up to there user was pretty hyped by just this idea that this is possible in from browser (well.. how long it is..)

Would totally want to come and share my mind with labs and developers in real life, to also enlighten my self about upcoming visions that are compatible with chrome and other similar domination visions..

well.. what am i talking here out loud, letäs rap it up


Greets and Sunny life to all of you readers, keep dreaming :)

But yeah, some annoyances in opera are just like "You must be kidding me??"

Originally posted by regrabables:

And it gets worse, in the MAC version took out the IRC chat, torrent, and some bars.

I already started to migrate to SeaMonkey, because at this rate will not be anything of Opera.

+1 What is this!? Bye, bye Opera!

Originally posted by jhilla:

To date we have collected 27 signatures wanting to bring "Open Opera United" two great services we are trying to save.
Remember spread the word and sign. When enough signatures are collected the data will be sent to Opera for review.

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/openoperaunited/

That's interesting, but I'm afraid we're too far from the 10000 signatures.

That's kind of sad. On the other hand, it did need a lot of love. I was working on building a Wiki for a while, but the documentation had some gaps in it, the testing process wasn't as smooth as it could have been, and debugging was a pain.

An open source standalone release would be hugely nifty. If that's not going to happen, perhaps someone could port bits and pieces to Node.js. I guess the nicest part of Unite was that new applications were click-to-install, and all the NAT traversal was already taken care of, though. That will be harder to replicate.

Originally posted by icare:

That's interesting, but I'm afraid we're too far from the 10000 signatures.

This just shows how "popular" Unite was...

I intend to write my own version of Unite as an extension for Firefox.

Originally posted by AleksOD:

Originally posted by icare:

That's interesting, but I'm afraid we're too far from the 10000 signatures.

This just shows how "popular" Unite was...

No. It shows that not enough people are aware of this petition. And Opera is not popular either, it's not a reason to dump it. By the way, according to gs.statscounter.com, the peak of Opera's popularity (3% of market share) was in june of 2009, around the time when Unite was released.

Xobrt,

You're a developer ?
Do you think it's possible to make Unite as a platform-independent standalone software ?

Originally posted by icare:

Opera is not popular either

Originally posted by Opera Software ASA:

Today, more than 250 million people are using Opera every month.

Compare that to 10000 signatures needed for the petition.

Originally posted by icare:

icare # пятница, 11 мая 2012 г. 23:30:14
Xobrt,You're a developer ?Do you think it's possible to make Unite as a platform-independent standalone software ?

icare, I'm just _web_ developer.
No. I think that Unite is good precisely because it is associated with the browser. This gives the advantages. Unite as a separate program - it is a different theme and a lot differently.

Originally posted by AleksOD:

Originally posted by icare:

Opera is not popular either

Originally posted by Opera Software ASA:

Today, more than 250 million people are using Opera every month.

Compare that to 10000 signatures needed for the petition.

You wanna compare ? Then compare the market share of Opera Dekstop Browser to the one of Safari, Chrome, Firefox, Internet Explorer. And compare the progression. In more than 10 years, Opera has rarely achieved more than 2% (except, as I said, when Unite was released.). The numbers you give are not reliable : it comes from Opera Software ASA and it mixes Opera desktop, Opera mobile and other devices. Plus, it was in april 2010 and Opera has losed some market shares since then. The question is how many Opera users will miss Unite ? On this thread, there's more people unhappy with this decision that people happy with it. You are the minority, here. And it's not only about Unite by the way. Ever since Jon has left, the decisions taken are getting more and more inconsistent. Unite, Widgets, the IRC chat (for mac Users only, talk about logic...)... Opera loses the features that made it original. And what about the skins ? Opera was once original, now it looks like a copy of Firefox/Chrome. Do they really think that imitating will give them more users ?

Originally posted by icare:

Originally posted by AleksOD:

Originally posted by icare:

Opera is not popular either

Originally posted by Opera Software ASA:

Today, more than 250 million people are using Opera every month.

Compare that to 10000 signatures needed for the petition.

You wanna compare ?
Then compare the market share of Opera Dekstop Browser to the one of Safari, Chrome, Firefox, Internet Explorer.
And compare the progression.
In more than 10 years, Opera has rarely achieved more than 2% (except, as I said, when Unite was released.).
The numbers you give are not reliable : it comes from Opera Software ASA and it mixes Opera desktop, Opera mobile and other devices. Plus, it was in april 2010 and Opera has losed some market shares since then.
The question is how many Opera users will miss Unite ?

On this thread, there's more people unhappy with this decision that people happy with it. You are the minority, here.

And it's not only about Unite by the way. Ever since Jon has left, the decisions taken are getting more and more inconsistent.
Unite, Widgets, the IRC chat (for mac Users only, talk about logic...)... Opera loses the features that made it original. And what about the skins ?
Opera was once original, now it looks like a copy of Firefox/Chrome.
Do they really think that imitating will give them more users ?

+1

Originally posted by icare:

You wanna compare ?
Then compare the market share of Opera Dekstop Browser to the one of Safari, Chrome, Firefox, Internet Explorer.
And compare the progression.
In more than 10 years, Opera has rarely achieved more than 2% (except, as I said, when Unite was released.).
The numbers you give are not reliable : it comes from Opera Software ASA and it mixes Opera desktop, Opera mobile and other devices. Plus, it was in april 2010 and Opera has losed some market shares since then.
The question is how many Opera users will miss Unite ?

On this thread, there's more people unhappy with this decision that people happy with it. You are the minority, here.

And it's not only about Unite by the way. Ever since Jon has left, the decisions taken are getting more and more inconsistent.
Unite, Widgets, the IRC chat (for mac Users only, talk about logic...)... Opera loses the features that made it original. And what about the skins ?
Opera was once original, now it looks like a copy of Firefox/Chrome.
Do they really think that imitating will give them more users ?

+1

There is a supposedly reason why they are dropping Unite.

Originally posted by regrabables:

In more than 10 years, Opera has rarely achieved more than 2% (except, as I said, when Unite was released.).
The numbers you give are not reliable : it comes from Opera Software ASA and it mixes Opera desktop, Opera mobile and other devices. Plus, it was in april 2010 and Opera has losed some market shares since then.
The question is how many Opera users will miss Unite ?

On this thread, there's more people unhappy with this decision that people happy with it. You are the minority, here.

And it's not only about Unite by the way. Ever since Jon has left, the decisions taken are getting more and more inconsistent.
Unite, Widgets, the IRC chat (for mac Users only, talk about logic...)... Opera loses the features that made it original. And what about the skins ?
Opera was once original, now it looks like a copy of Firefox/Chrome.
Do they really think that imitating will give them more users ?

+1

The sad thing is, Firefox seems to think copying is the way to go, too. I was mildly surprised to see that Opera 11 looks exactly like the newest Firefox (they probably got their crappy design from Chrome). With unite gone,... I'll just keep Opera 11, Firefox 3.6, Konqueror and look for yet another browser....

This is funny Fire Fox has addons still and it will be supior if Opera next don't deliver then screw it we all can move on also why develope something you cant afford you sound like and look like today's game developing companies they release a decent product but either give you content or take it way due to them not being able to afford anything no one is gonna run opera if it aint fast or have addons Gooolge suppress this by fare and Fire fox does to say by to Oprea ill just wait to see the Lame version of Next.Watch is become just a normal browser below IE or get bought out by Google or something typical.

Originally posted by kidxrated:

This is funny Fire Fox has addons still and it will be supior if Opera next don't deliver then screw it we all can move on also why develope something you cant afford you sound like and look like today's game developing companies they release a decent product but either give you content or take it way due to them not being able to afford anything no one is gonna run opera if it aint fast or have addons Gooolge suppress this by fare and Fire fox does to say by to Oprea ill just wait to see the Lame version of Next.Watch is become just a normal browser below IE or get bought out by Google or something typical.

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Changes: Reduced count to 1,000 - we have "44". To be honest, I was being optimistic in hope we would be a loud enough voice to make a change.. Based on release 12.0 it seems that decision was already made.

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/openoperaunited/

Originally posted by icare:

You are the minority, here.

You are right, it seems that I am the minority among people who commented here.

Originally posted by d4rkn1ght:

Originally posted by icare:

You wanna compare ?
Then compare the market share of Opera Dekstop Browser to the one of Safari, Chrome, Firefox, Internet Explorer.
And compare the progression.
In more than 10 years, Opera has rarely achieved more than 2% (except, as I said, when Unite was released.).
The numbers you give are not reliable : it comes from Opera Software ASA and it mixes Opera desktop, Opera mobile and other devices. Plus, it was in april 2010 and Opera has losed some market shares since then.
The question is how many Opera users will miss Unite ?

On this thread, there's more people unhappy with this decision that people happy with it. You are the minority, here.

And it's not only about Unite by the way. Ever since Jon has left, the decisions taken are getting more and more inconsistent.
Unite, Widgets, the IRC chat (for mac Users only, talk about logic...)... Opera loses the features that made it original. And what about the skins ?
Opera was once original, now it looks like a copy of Firefox/Chrome.
Do they really think that imitating will give them more users ?

+1

There is a http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=279644&t=1336796226&page=3#comment12251532]supposedly reason why they are dropping Unite.

Hmmm... make sense now... But it's really pity to end Unite this way... I'm wondering to use FF or Chrome instead... This is sad...

Tonight I attempted to modify http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera_(web_browser) and include the recent news about Opera Unite phasing out. For whatever the reason, Opera itself has been blacklisted for changes. I even used a short code trying to hide the petition and it still would not authorize changes. Guess will continue to search for other venues to speed things along.

Originally posted by d4rkn1ght:

imitating will give them more users

It will be easy for Fierfox/Chrome users - migrate to Opera

Originally posted by areteichi:

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/openoperaunited/

anyone knows who's the petition creator?

Is this one of those things like losing your rights with out you knowing it!
( http://seekingalpha.com/article/562021-should-investors-worry-about-cispa )

It just seems like there is an attack on the internet, like people want it to go away. It brings freedom, over turns governments. Educates everyone. I see it as they want to control the people. You cant say it's not true!

People here in the USA lost our rights we had the thing called ALEC. It took away our rights to better pay etc. And no one knew about it until it got out in the open.

Keep unite, don't fall to these people that want it to go away!
Give us freedom!

I've always loved Opera Unite too. I use still for sharing files and such on my laptops, my PSP, and my other computers. I have a backup copy of Fabrice Bellard's JavaScript PC Emulator aka JSLinux that works on Opera Unite's Web Server and File Sharing.
Say good bye to newer versions of Opera Unite :{

Originally posted by jhilla:

jhilla # sábado, 12 de maio de 2012 15:49:27
Changes: Reduced count to 1,000 - we have "44". To be honest, I was being optimistic in hope we would be a loud enough voice to make a change.. Based on release 12.0 it seems that decision was already made. http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/openoperaunited/

Hey jhilli, please, add to petition others retired features, like Voice, Opera Chat (IRC), the bars (start/main bar), the skin theme colors option and icon size option

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/openoperaunited/ - Good evening, We now have 56 signatures participating getting the word out. Please continue to inform anyone that is ever used this product and joy in its use to hurry as the deadline approaches before Opera Next goes RC. By request I went and added "Torrent, Voice and IRC" to the petition. Perhaps if we succeed we could see "Open Opera United" as a unique build. Kind of last moment of good will, as Boxee gave 1.5 as a parting gift before it axed the software from its own servers and support.

The fight continues as we now grow stronger at "62", more exposure by seeking out those covering the release of Beta 12 and dropping the Petition in the comments. I encourage everyone to copy the URL and paste it in any conversations relating to Opera Unite. http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/openoperaunited/

also no more IRC? WTF, why? Then please dev an official oex...

For lack of interest, there bunches of activity here and on the petition site. we are holding at "85" signatures. Continued pressure on news partners that covered the story from Past and present time. Now besides signing the petition here is how you can help show your interest. If you are still on Opera version 11 activate and use your "Unite" and "Widgets". Use your features to your ability. Perhaps activate the web server. The sky the limit. From previous reports the service was not scheduled to go down until late in the year. Let's show them how much we really want to keep our services running. http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/openoperaunited/

You should mention the petition in comments to articles on the Desktop blog... that's where all the newest test versions are discussed. People there (including me) are quite passionate about the sudden decision to scrap a lot of "useless" functions.

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Originally posted by MossMan:

You should mention the petition in comments to articles on http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/">the Desktop blog... that's where all the newest test versions are discussed. People there (including me) are quite passionate about the sudden decision to scrap a lot of "useless" functions.

Sign
Open Opera United Petition and take our poll. =) http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=1398742#poll

dropping Opera Unite will make me dropping Opera completely, as this was for me the biggest and most important difference to all other browsers out there. really sorry about your decision.

i can't say i didn't expect this, what with unite feedback having been no-existent for so long. *sigh*. i won't argue with your decision; i expect you know what makes sense to you business-wise. but unite is what makes opera unique for me. i never used widgets, and i don't care about them,; there are lots of ways to replace their functionality. i didn't use bittorrent; dedicated clients are much better for that. i don't use your mail either; i prefer keeping private mail on my own machine. i do use extensions, and i agree it's important to focus on them. but there's nothing out there to replace unite. and no, i don't think trusting in google instead is the way to go for cloud services; less so now than ever since they decided they have a right to know everything about my identity so they can market it better. i don't WANT a middleman between me and the cloud like that. i trusted your setup a heck of a lot more. yes, i can duplicate much the functionality for myself; using dynamic DNS and running my own web server again, but a lot of my friends don't have the technical knowhow to do that.

opera unite is visionary. i don't know why it didn't take off; nobody out there ever seemed to know about it. maybe its day hasn't yet come like with so many visionary things. i'm sad you didn't/couldn't give it the attention it needed; i will miss it. it feels like a step backwards, and i hate it when business decisions interfere with technological advance. well; thank you for trying it at all!

Originally posted by piranh4:

i don't use your mail either; i prefer keeping private mail on my own machine

Eh?

Mail in Opera ≠ operamail.com !

Opera browser has an independent POP/IMAP(+newsfeeds+newsgroups) mail client. I keep all my mail at home (I use several different PCs to use mail stored on the main PC) - just like you say you want.

It's confusing (and a mistake IMO) that they call it Opera Mail, but it is *not* the OperaMail web service...

To the people saying that are going to use other browsers because these features are being removed: others browsers also don't have these features so you make no sense!

I'll add the petition to my signature to show my support and get people to know about it, then we'll see how many users are actually interested. :/

Originally posted by rafaelluik:

To the people saying that are going to use other browsers because these features are being removed: others browsers also don't have these features so you make no sense!

Yes, but the other browsers do not have many compatibility problems with web pages.