Opera Add-ons

They wanna get out from Browser business i think. I hear voices that sais Facebook will buy Opera, so i think this is a strategy that will make people stop useing Opera Browsers, cause this 2 futures (Unite+Widgets) are the reasons, that me and some of my friends are useing Opera. Think its time to make a switch to firefox or chromium.

Opera without Unite is just like IE without errors Don't do this, guys...

Oh nO! Not opera Unite! I use it for my company, to share files.Please! dont shut it off. I dont wanna pay for dropbox!
Opera was an excellent answare for companies

Dont do it guys! Bad call

Guys install Opera 12 RC6 it will update to 12 with existing functions including unite! This only works for 32bit though.
http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2012/06/13/rc6.

This is what 260 +wanted we just need Unite servers to stay active! Continue the fight http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/openoperaunited/

So much for the "de-activated by default" in Opera 12! Maybe it's off for new users, but since most users will still see it I wonder if this means they're reconsidering...

Only 32bit? Why would somebody still use 32bit, we're not living in 2004 anymore :x

Perhaps because 64-bit has so far offered ABSOLUTELY NO IMPROVEMENT ON ANY SOFTWARE I'VE EVER SEEN!?

Originally posted by MossMan:

So much for the "de-activated by default" in Opera 12! Maybe it's off for new users, but since most users will still see it I wonder if this means they're reconsidering...

hope so!!!!

why dont we some kind of manifestation, a massive use of unite or something similar?

Originally posted by juan gil:

...why dont we some kind of manifestation, a massive use of unite or something similar?

I guess the petition from Jhilla is a good start!:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/openoperaunited/
(Keep publishing this petition link on new posts so everyone can see it!)

Originally posted by regrabables:

Originally posted by Frenzie:

You can still use it in Opera 12. Just add the button.

And where do we draw the UNITE button? If it is not nowhere in version 12. In the panel "look" - "status" button no longer exists.

opera:config#Enable Unite

If you have updated from a previous version where you were already using Unite it'll already be there.

Unite, as of information from now, will be discontinued in a future update. In 12.00 they've just hide it.

Originally posted by rafaelluik:

Originally posted by regrabables:

Originally posted by Frenzie:

You can still use it in Opera 12. Just add the button.

And where do we draw the UNITE button? If it is not nowhere in version 12. In the panel "look" - "status" button no longer exists.

opera:config#Enable Unite

If you have updated from a previous version where you were already using Unite it'll already be there.

Unite, as of information from now, will be discontinued in a future update. In 12.00 they've just hide it.

that also means one thing: unite doesnt seem to have a strong presence among new users (dont know it, dont value it and dont use it) but long time users as we are value this feature. it seems that unite didnt attract people to the browser as it was expected hence the idea of discontinue it

In contrast to most people here, I think it's a good move to remove unite from the browser, although the best move as far as all users (for or against unite) are concerned would be to have it as a separate app.

I hope this happens to email client as well; I don't want it gone, I use it heavily, but it makes next to no sense embedding it into the browser.

I just read about this in the release notes for Opera 12, so I came here to add another vote: please, please keep Unite!

Originally posted by WolfHook:

Unite had so much potential, I remember reading about it the first day of launch. However I never found a consistant use for it and it remained a "cool feature" rather than being something I depended on.

My thoughts exactly. But besides being a cool feature, it's an extremely useful one that sets Opera apart from the rest. I never needed to depend on it, but it's great to have it around in case of need (just a few days ago I used it to share screenshots to do some remote support.)

I have enjoyed opera very much. I can see a parting of the ways this year. Unite was the 'killer feature' for me.

Obviously they are worried about 'file sharing' and all the legal frenzy associated with it. By removing the capability they remove any impediment to Facebook's acquisition of the company later this year or next.

It was a fun couple of years, the internet done right. But now its the age of the corporate lawyering and Unite had to go. Goodbye Opera. I shall miss you.

The opera loses the uniqueness! though I and not often used units, I after the first start noted that it isn't present more.

The Voice was the only reason for me, to use opera.
English is not my first language, and "the voice" was an excellent way to read articles and improve my knowledge of English.

If the company does not reconsider its' decision, I will not use Opera, and I will choose a product that offer me this option.

Keep opera unite up

Originally posted by eternal1:

I hope this happens to email client as well; I don't want it gone, I use it heavily, but it makes next to no sense embedding it into the browser.

Quit slobbering.

I can understand the strategy of only one external platform, but man, I really hate to see Unite go. I'm using it at work to keep bookmarks and quick dials synced with both computers. I'm using it at home to share files and photos with friends. I guess I can do the latter with dropbox or samesuch, but what about the former? I guess there will be a way to sync two operas together that replaces unite and if I find it, I won't be so heart broken. But still.. it's a lot what made Opera unique to me.

Originally posted by rafaelluik:

Originally posted by eternal1:

I hope this happens to email client as well; I don't want it gone, I use it heavily, but it makes next to no sense embedding it into the browser.

Quit slobbering.

What is it with some people and the e-mail module? I thought I'd heard the end of the "make it a separate application" arguments five years ago - after it'd been argued to death already that it's smaller and better to have it integrated.

Originally posted by MossMan:

What is it with some people and the e-mail module? I thought I'd heard the end of the "make it a separate application" arguments five years ago - after it'd been argued to death already that it's smaller and better to have it integrated.

I haven't read arguments from five years ago, so you better explain here how it is "better" to have it integrated.

The reason it is integrated has nothing to do with end-user practicality. Many users of Opera/Chrome/IE/whatever use Firefox in "parallel" (duo to it's poweful extensions (framework), which even some Opera staff acknowledge). With that in mind, how is it then "smaller and better" to run Firefox with Opera + email client when one could instead be running Firefox with only the email/rss client ?

I know there are email clients as extensions for Firefox, but by now you might have understood that I don't find it a good idea to use these type of software as extensions (beside the fact that they are interpreted and inefficient). I'm also aware of the existence of separate email clients out there. But, the reason for my opinion is that I far prefer Opera's client over anything I have tried, just not within the browser.

Well to summarise the end result of all those arguments in the late 1990s / early 2000s:

- from a programming point of view it's a small amount of extra data to be included in the package; creating a separate application would mean duplicating a lot of the UI functions from the browser to the mailer. This would also make things more complicated since UI changes in one application would need to be tracked in the other and vice versa.

- from a user point of view it's an advantage for those who want to use it because it's in the same package: it's running whenever we're online, it means only one application is using screen/memory/etc. instead of two, there are some advantages from better integration between web and mail. For those who don't want to use it, it makes just a couple of hundred KB difference in the browser and you never have to see it if you don't activate it.

Originally posted by MossMan:

Well to summarise the end result of all those arguments in the late 1990s / early 2000s:

- from a programming point of view it's a small amount of extra data to be included in the package; creating a separate application would mean duplicating a lot of the UI functions from the browser to the mailer. This would also make things more complicated since UI changes in one application would need to be tracked in the other and vice versa.

Even early 2000s is far from 5 years ago, but anyway.. I'm not following how this is a complication. As an on-and-off programmer I can't understand this reasoning. The mailer simply uses Opera's "built-in" UI toolkit, so if the client would be made separate it would get it's own copy of that toolkit. It could even detect and use the toolkit of an installed Opera browser in case the browsers toolkit and the one targeted by the mailer are compatible; that would reduce memory footprint.

- from a user point of view it's an advantage for those who want to use it because it's in the same package: it's running whenever we're online, it means only one application is using screen/memory/etc. instead of two, there are some advantages from better integration between web and mail. For those who don't want to use it, it makes just a couple of hundred KB difference in the browser and you never have to see it if you don't activate it.

There are always some overhead of software in separate processes compared to a uni-process approach, but like I pointed out in the earlier post, it makes next to no sense fusing some type of software with another type of software, in this case a browser and a mailer. What sort of integration do you need that cannot be implemented otherwise ? Also, I'm sure Opera only benefits from die hard users of other browsers using their mailer, maybe along with widgets, and maybe unite if they'd offer it as an app. I liked unite as a simple and nice internet framework. And let's not forget that users of the mailer _and_ opera may not want to run opera all the time because they need as much resources as possible for work (video editing, 3d modelling/rendering, or any other resource heavy work). Regardless, happy Operating!

I'm using both Opera Unite and Operas' BitTorent Client. As a matter of fact I don't have other torrent client installed yet Hope they will be there as extensions.

Adding to the wish for UNITE to remain in some form. It is a powerful differentiator in the browser market. It continues to bring me back to the Opera Browser when ever I stray.

There is a deplorable fact is that Opera does not listen to users when they are upset with the product. Only listen when they ask for the opinion, and if the release of trial versions. Already in the past made changes that were not quite good, users protested, but never reversed any action taken.

So do not expect that the functions are taken away, come back.

Too bad for the "Opera Unite" features, I guess "opera mail" will be next.
It looks like Opera is Firefox copycat now, but with closed source and crappy flavor.
It's just sad.

Opera Unite is a very useful feature which I used occasionally, though not as much as I might have done. The ability to give others access to large files without having to upload them to someone else's server is probably more secure. It is very sad that Opera apparently see no use in it.

Me too!

Very disappointed to hea Unite is being dropped! I'vde been a dedicated Opera User nigh on 15 years. I alyweays played up how Unite was such a cool innovation... Cloud Schmoud! Geive the Internet back to the user. I guess I'll have to live without Unite. Too dedicated to Opera otherwise! But truly disheartened! If you don't innovate you just imitate! Is Opera the Dr Pepper of browsers? (ok less market share but more than cherry coke niche)
I found Widgets nice and fun but I will not really miss them. I spend time with my browser and I like that Opera is ion their kickin' for me! I am disappointed !!

With this: opera:config#Enable%20Unite you can enable Unity but u can't download more apps anymore...
This is the problem of non-open source software, the owner always do what they want destroying their own soft...

I want unite it was brilliant iv just downloaded 12 and i dont like the fact theres no unite function on the panel or no running apps wheres my lounge gone,media player etc i know this is the only the begining but unite was the shit and it made opera, the extensions are fine man keep them all but unite was what made my opera browser man.

Well if any one is wondering why this great feature is being removed, all you have to do is follow the money. Who has the greatest to gain when all the power of unite is removed from software/ the INTERNET? I believe it is the hardware developers and the people making money using servers. I believe these are the "server middle men" that are responsible for the removal of Unite.

http://youtu.be/D5hr-6cw4M8

I like all these technologies, since Opera 8 - I enjoyed the IBM voice reading pages, then they took that out or silently ignored the issue, if they could migrate to the built in OS voices /or the other free text-to-speech libraries somehow - like through a JavaScript API, I also could easily tell where Opera profile settings were, so I could keep the ADR files where I kindof wanted them, there were backup and sync utilities for bookmarks and mail, and you could find and see the images that were actually in your cache if you wanted to instead of backtrack, they kindof had it so you could edit webpages or almost even create pages in the browser with some DOM/CSS plugins. Then thy added in the Opera link sync for notes, bookmarks, speeddial - never once this worked for me and I lost the bookmarks, and the remove duplicates didn't work. And widgets kept breaking where you should be able to just re-import them or copy them to their directory, same with Extensions. I used to have rows of links in my toolbar I have gotten tired of rebuilding them with each upgrade and just forget about them now. I wonder how such 'sabotage' gets by. Opera is a bastion of great development and ideas. Thanks for the leaps ahead but you guys shot yourselves in the foot. I don't know why these changes occurred, a theory I had about Facebook was it could somehow be a secret MS or other company, partially created so they could buy and sink Opera, or some mutual interests, MS had acquired a company about the same time as Hotmail that was very similar to Facebook called FireFly - developed at MIT and sunk it. Look just what they've done with all the Hotmail/Outlook/Live/Messenger clients over the years, so if Opera gets sold to a US company they will strip the good stuff out than to let the invaders do with it as they will. Unite is cool - please keep it. How come the vicious circle in software, even at MS they shoot themselves in the foot a lot. If Opera is acquired I hope they can still retain their development autonomy somewhat, in a partnership, or opensource somehow which I don't know if it would be for the best. But out of the uncaring hands. Opera, It keeps getting better, but always with these extraneous costs.

Originally posted by AleksOD:

Originally posted by Pamalosebi:

I can not understand why they did not want to support.

In order to understand this, you should look at the Unite apps site since it was first introduced. One word could describe it best - stagnation. Few new apps were introduced since the beginning, and even fewer were being maintained by their creators. What's the point in keeping it up any longer if it diverts Opera's resources to something only few people are interested in developing for? Even such giants as Google with its seemingly unlimited resources know when to discontinue a failed project (Google Wave or Notebook, anyone?). Such discernment is even more crucial in the case of smaller players like Opera.

i cannot see your logic, we are not interested in new applications, we do not need new, only need what is used and useful, that is the stupid thinking of most programmers, you have to see what people wants and no what you wants

Originally posted by onsen-00:

Originally posted by AleksOD:

Few new apps were introduced since the beginning, and even fewer were being maintained by their creators. What's the point in keeping it up any longer

What's the point in developing stuff for something that is already complete? There is no need for further development. Unite works, what else could you expect from it? Right, that it will continue to work.

completely agree, that is the point , we do not need new this or that , only need unite as it is today, really i think that man is a programmer or stupid to much to not know what is talking about,unite is unite, do not need any thing more than file sharing , images etc

Originally posted by regrabables:

Originally posted by Frenzie:

You can still use it in Opera 12. Just add the button.

And where do we draw the UNITE button? If it is not nowhere in version 12. In the panel "look" - "status" button no longer exists.

go to opera:config , write unite ins search and activate unite, that the button appears Enable Unite check box

Originally posted by jhilla:

Guys install Opera 12 RC6 it will update to 12 with existing functions including unite! This only works for 32bit though.
http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2012/06/13/rc6.

This is what 260 +wanted we just need Unite servers to stay active! Continue the fight http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/openoperaunited/

stop with this Spam, your are requesting money in this link, moderators ban this guy

esto es una tragedia nacional... I miss Opera Unite :'(

I just found out about this yesterday when the update popped up and I checked the changelog before updating. I'm glad I did, as losing Unite is a big shock!

As it happens I'm currently sharing a 77Mb file with it for my Brother to pick up. I don't know how else I'd do it, as I don't have enough room on my webspace, and uploading that size to anything will take ages. Sharing from my PC is perfect and I'm amazed they are removing it without creating some other way to share directories in V12.

I won't be updating for a while, which is a shame, as it sounds like we can actually remove attachments from emails now, which is something I've wanted for years. Losing Unite is a bigger problem.

IMO this two addons gives opera some else than others browsers, (imho no one browser has this brilliant functions), and what i have now? I have browser, which are very similar with other browsers in support functions and it isn't fastest browser now. Imho opera will hight procent loose positions in browser rivalry without those add-ons.

OK, the "summit" says this features didn't attract new users, but how will their deletion make the number of users increase?

If they're expensive, it's because the company hasn't financial return and, if the company hasn't financial return, the problem is marketing and publicity, not the own features, because they (usually) works excellently. I use Unite's Files Sharing and Web Server, and they are top notch.

Opera People do not realize the damage that makes people really used UNITE and not realize the harm they do to the browser.

UNITE still say that because it attracts new users, at least, fallacious reasoning.

Ultimately this is to camouflage the bad marketing was done to UNITE.

lol, what marketing? Never heard of unite until after I installed Opera and I did that, because firefox sucked just a little too hard with all those fast releases. Now I know unite and never want to miss it again.

Sure leaving it there may not attract new users, but getting rid of it is certainly making its existing user base think twice about staying with opera...

Opera Unite was what made Opera different from the rest for me, and I used it everyday.
I am very disappointed with Opera and lately had been forced to return to Safari.
To be honest, only Google Chrome and Apple Safari get anywhere in the world of web browsers today.
Opera looks to be following Mozilla Firefox and Windows Internet Explorer to the graveyard of web browsers.

Since I am stubborn to install Opera turned 12, I was often disaster. I deleted the address bar, I had to manually uninstall all load all over again. I was losing valuable time.
Horrible this new version, unstable as any.

For a few days my youtube videos are lagging and my procesor jumps to 100% when I start a video on youtube in opera. This has to do with the new opera or whit the new flash player?
If I used the internet browser that comes with my windos my processor ramen under 25%, otherwise I do not have problems with the new opera. So is the opera or flash player? has anyone met with this problem?

Originally posted by vyck:

For a few days my youtube videos are lagging and my procesor jumps to 100% when I start a video on youtube in opera. This has to do with the new opera or whit the new flash player?
If I used the internet browser that comes with my windos my processor ramen under 25%, otherwise I do not have problems with the new opera. So is the opera or flash player? has anyone met with this problem?

I think it's Opera, since I updated (I'm a stubborn) when I fullscreen and then back to normal screen crashes Opera. I have to go down from the task manager.