Population genetics of Y chromosome in Macedonians
Monday, 10. August 2009, 02:32:37
A Y-HAPLOGROUP
A M91, P97
Haplogroup A is common among the Dinka Sudanese (62%) (21) and Mitilini-Greece=3.7% (04
Y-DNA haplogroup A represents the oldest branching of the human Y chromosome tree, thought to have begun about 60,000 years ago. Like Y-DNA haplogroup B, the A lineage is seen only in Africa and is scattered widely, but thinly across the continent. These haplogroups have higher frequencies among hunter-gather groups in Ethiopia and Sudan, and are also seen among click language-speaking populations. Their patchy, widespread distribution may mean that these haplogroups are remnants of ancient lineages that once had a much wider range but have been largely displaced by more recent population events.
http://www.isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_HapgrpA09.html
C Y-HAPLOGROUP
C M130/RPS4Y711, M216, P184, P255, P260
Haplogroup C is common among the Turco-Mongol invaders and Athenians Greece=1.1 (04)
Y-DNA haplogroup C appears to have arisen shortly after modern humans” left Africa” and is estimated to be approximately 50,000 years old. The haplogroup can be traced across the southern Arabian Peninsula through Pakistan and India into Sri Lanka and Australia, and Southeast Asia.
http://www.isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_HapgrpC09.html
F Y-HAPLOGROUP
F M89, M213/P137, M235, P14, P133, P134, P135, P136, P138, P139, P140, P141, P142. P145, P146, P148, P149, P151, P157, P158, P159, P160, P161, P163, P166, P187
• F* -
Macedonians Mkd=1.3 ; Herzegovinians Croatians=1.9 (03)
Y-DNA haplogroup F is the parent of all Y-DNA haplogroups G through T and contains more than 90% of the world’s population. Haplogroup F was in the original migration out of Africa, or else it was founded soon afterward, because F and its sub-haplogroups are primarily found outside, with very few inside, sub-Saharan Africa. The founder of F could have lived between 60,000 and 80,000 years ago, depending on the time of the “out-of-Africa migration”.
The major sub-groups of Haplogroup F are Haplogroups G, H, (IJ), and K, which are discussed elsewhere at this site. The minor sub-groups, F*, F1, and F2 have not been well studied, but apparently occur only infrequently and primarily in the Indian subcontinent. F* has been observed in two individuals in Portugal, possibly representing a remnant of 15th and 16th century contact of Portugal with India.
http://www.isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_HapgrpF09.html
Haplogroups BT, CT, CF, are hypothetically.Until today, no male in haplogroup BT or CT or CF has yet been discovered.
F haplogrup…. no father.
As we can understand, Some Macedonians (and Herzegovinians) are “the fathers” of most of today's people..
T Y-HAPLOGROUP
Haplogroup T-M70 is a haplogroup that has been detected in
17.6% (3/17) of Fulbe in Cameroon (21) and
Macedonia (Greece)= 1.8 ;
Athenians (Greece)= 4.3 (03)
Cretans in Lasithi Prefecture 8.7% ;
7.3% of Cretans in Oropedio Lasithiou (20)
(pic. left:Early Minoan skull)
E Y-HAPLOGROUP
V13-E1b1b1a2
Macedonians
Macedonians (Greece- not non-european “Greeks”)= 19.3 ; Athenians (Greece)= 16.3 (03)
V22-E1b1b1a3
Macedonia (Greece)=1.8 ; Athenians (Greece)= 1.1 (03)
M521- E1b1b1a5
Athenians (Greece)= 2.2 (03)
M123- E1b1b1c
Macedonia (Greece)=1.8 ; Athenians (Greece)= 2.2 ; Albanians (Mkd)= 3.1 (03)
E1b1b1a*
Albanians (Alb)= 1.8 ; Albanians (MKD)=1.6 (03)
R Y-HAPLOGROUP
R1a Haplogroup is common among the Polands (“slavs”) and
02- Macedonians (Macedonia)=15.2 and Macedonians in Greece (not non-european “Greeks”)
01- Agrinion=04.8 ; Patrai=05.6 ; Serrai=08.0 ; Ioannina=08.3 ; Larisa=09.5 ; Kardhitsa=20.0 ; Thessaloniki=25.0 ;
03- Macedonia (Aegean part of Macedonia)=10.5 (from 1913 y. under occupation of non-european “Greeks”) and
03- Athenians=16.3
Who says that no Macedonians living in Greece? Macedonians living across all “Greece”…..
01- Iraklion=00.0 ; Khania=03.4 ; Lasith=10.0 ; Rethimnon=22.7 (Crete)
01- Khios=09.5 ; Mitilini = 11.1 (Aegean islands)
“Slavic” marker in Albanians
03-Albanians (Alb)= 09.1 ; Albanians (Kos)= 04.4 ; Albanians (Mac)= 01.6
K....Y-DNA haplogroup K is an old lineage established approximately 40,000 thousand years ago.
K* and K1 to K4 which do not have any of the SNPs defining the major groups.
In Macedonians, this halplogroup (K*) is found in 1.3% of population.
G....Y-DNA haplogroup G...The founder of haplogroup G is thought to have lived about 30,000 years ago.
In Macedonians, this halplogroup is found in 5,1% of population.
In the Aegean part of Macedonia, this halplogroup is found in 1.8% of population (Greek 1,1%).
Haplogroup G is found in approximately 18% to 20% of Kalash.
I....Y-DNA haplogroup I is a European haplogroup.
The two main subgroups of haplogroup I likely divided approximately 28,000 years ago :
The I1b-M227 subclade is concentrated in eastern Europe and the Balkans...
I2a-P37.2, which is the most common form in the Balkans and Sardinia..
The Macedonians have frequencies of I1a of 5,1% and I1b*xM26 29,1%.
http://www.isogg.org/tree/index.html
Notes:
6.MACEDONIANS-SLAV,WHAT THIS MEAN?
1.the oldest Balkan R1a1 population, 11,650±1,550
2.there are no indications regarding “Ukrainian refuge” for R1a1 ancient population allegedly 15,000 years ago; instead, evidences have been obtained that the oldest R1a1 lived circa 11,600± years ago on the Balkans (Serbia, Kosovo, Bosnia, Macedonia).
3.except the Balkans, present-day bearers of R1a1 across Western and Eastern Europe
have common ancestors who lived between 3550 and 4725 years ago (the “youngest” in
Scotland, Ireland and Sweden, the “oldest” in Russia (4725±520 ybp) and Germany
(4,700±520 ybp).
Anatole A. Klyosov
Who is more Greek, the descendants of the Modern Turks of Constantinople or the Modern Greeks of Greece proper?
color crimson:High-Resolution Phylogenetic Analysis of Southeastern Europe Traces Major Episodes of Paternal Gene Flow Among Slavic Populations- Pericic et al. 2005
Y-chromosomal evidence of the cultural diffusion of agriculture in southeast Europe
King et al. (2008) Differential Y-chromosome Anatolian Influences on the Greek and Cretan Neolithic, Annals of Human Genetics 72,205–214
"short" and "normal" comments only.
01.Differential Y-chromosome Anatolian Influences on the Greek and Cretan Neolithic-R. J. King et all 2008
02.Y-chromosomal evidence of the cultural diffusion of agriculture in southeast Europe-Vincenza Battaglia et all 2008
03.High-Resolution Phylogenetic Analysis of Southeastern Europe Traces Major Episodes of Paternal Gene Flow Among Slavic Populations-Marijana Pericic et all 2005
21.16/26, Hassan et al. 2008
continue.....
A M91, P97
Haplogroup A is common among the Dinka Sudanese (62%) (21) and Mitilini-Greece=3.7% (04
Y-DNA haplogroup A represents the oldest branching of the human Y chromosome tree, thought to have begun about 60,000 years ago. Like Y-DNA haplogroup B, the A lineage is seen only in Africa and is scattered widely, but thinly across the continent. These haplogroups have higher frequencies among hunter-gather groups in Ethiopia and Sudan, and are also seen among click language-speaking populations. Their patchy, widespread distribution may mean that these haplogroups are remnants of ancient lineages that once had a much wider range but have been largely displaced by more recent population events.
http://www.isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_HapgrpA09.html
C Y-HAPLOGROUP
C M130/RPS4Y711, M216, P184, P255, P260
Haplogroup C is common among the Turco-Mongol invaders and Athenians Greece=1.1 (04)
Y-DNA haplogroup C appears to have arisen shortly after modern humans” left Africa” and is estimated to be approximately 50,000 years old. The haplogroup can be traced across the southern Arabian Peninsula through Pakistan and India into Sri Lanka and Australia, and Southeast Asia.
http://www.isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_HapgrpC09.html
F Y-HAPLOGROUP
F M89, M213/P137, M235, P14, P133, P134, P135, P136, P138, P139, P140, P141, P142. P145, P146, P148, P149, P151, P157, P158, P159, P160, P161, P163, P166, P187
• F* -
Macedonians Mkd=1.3 ; Herzegovinians Croatians=1.9 (03)
Y-DNA haplogroup F is the parent of all Y-DNA haplogroups G through T and contains more than 90% of the world’s population. Haplogroup F was in the original migration out of Africa, or else it was founded soon afterward, because F and its sub-haplogroups are primarily found outside, with very few inside, sub-Saharan Africa. The founder of F could have lived between 60,000 and 80,000 years ago, depending on the time of the “out-of-Africa migration”.
The major sub-groups of Haplogroup F are Haplogroups G, H, (IJ), and K, which are discussed elsewhere at this site. The minor sub-groups, F*, F1, and F2 have not been well studied, but apparently occur only infrequently and primarily in the Indian subcontinent. F* has been observed in two individuals in Portugal, possibly representing a remnant of 15th and 16th century contact of Portugal with India.
http://www.isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_HapgrpF09.html
Haplogroups BT, CT, CF, are hypothetically.Until today, no male in haplogroup BT or CT or CF has yet been discovered.
F haplogrup…. no father.
As we can understand, Some Macedonians (and Herzegovinians) are “the fathers” of most of today's people..
T Y-HAPLOGROUP
Haplogroup T-M70 is a haplogroup that has been detected in 17.6% (3/17) of Fulbe in Cameroon (21) and
Macedonia (Greece)= 1.8 ;
Athenians (Greece)= 4.3 (03)
Cretans in Lasithi Prefecture 8.7% ;
7.3% of Cretans in Oropedio Lasithiou (20)
(pic. left:Early Minoan skull)
E Y-HAPLOGROUP
V13-E1b1b1a2
Macedonians
Macedonians (Greece- not non-european “Greeks”)= 19.3 ; Athenians (Greece)= 16.3 (03)
V22-E1b1b1a3
Macedonia (Greece)=1.8 ; Athenians (Greece)= 1.1 (03)
M521- E1b1b1a5
Athenians (Greece)= 2.2 (03)
M123- E1b1b1c
Macedonia (Greece)=1.8 ; Athenians (Greece)= 2.2 ; Albanians (Mkd)= 3.1 (03)
E1b1b1a*
Albanians (Alb)= 1.8 ; Albanians (MKD)=1.6 (03)
R Y-HAPLOGROUP
R1a Haplogroup is common among the Polands (“slavs”) and
02- Macedonians (Macedonia)=15.2 and Macedonians in Greece (not non-european “Greeks”)
01- Agrinion=04.8 ; Patrai=05.6 ; Serrai=08.0 ; Ioannina=08.3 ; Larisa=09.5 ; Kardhitsa=20.0 ; Thessaloniki=25.0 ;
03- Macedonia (Aegean part of Macedonia)=10.5 (from 1913 y. under occupation of non-european “Greeks”) and
03- Athenians=16.3
Who says that no Macedonians living in Greece? Macedonians living across all “Greece”…..
01- Iraklion=00.0 ; Khania=03.4 ; Lasith=10.0 ; Rethimnon=22.7 (Crete)
01- Khios=09.5 ; Mitilini = 11.1 (Aegean islands)
“Slavic” marker in Albanians
03-Albanians (Alb)= 09.1 ; Albanians (Kos)= 04.4 ; Albanians (Mac)= 01.6
|
0 P-15 M-406 M-406 M-70 M-253 M-21 M-227 P-259 M-227 M507-S79 P-37 M-161 M-26 M-423 M-223 M-223 |
F F* G G2 G2a* G2a3c G2d K (T) K* K*xp K2 I* I1 I1a I1b*xM26 I1c I1* I1b* I1e I2 I2* I2a I2a* I2a1* I2a1a I2a1 I2a2 I2b1 I21b | MKDN 01.3 05.1 01.3 0 05.1 29.1 0 | MKGR 01.8 0 07.0 01.8 03.5 17.5 0 | GREK 02.2 01.1 0 02.2 01.1 06.5 0 | AMKD 01.6 0 03.6 01.6 09.4 01.6 0 | ALBA 01.8 0 04.7 14.5 03.6 0 | AKOS 0 05.3 2.65 0 | ROMA 0 01.8 03.5 0 | SERB 7.08 0 01.8 05.3 29.2 0 | BULG 0 0 | PEAK/COMP antalia 80.000 y/ago 30,000 y/ago neanikomedia Causcaus Causcaus neanikomedia antalia Lema/frantchi 40,000 y/ago. Crete/egejmk Old europe Old europe Old europe old 9.3 czehoslov Balkan Old europe Turkey/ Causcaus Causcaus balkan balkan balkan balkan Sardinia/chechs balkan 2.7 slovenians 0 |
K....Y-DNA haplogroup K is an old lineage established approximately 40,000 thousand years ago.
K* and K1 to K4 which do not have any of the SNPs defining the major groups.
In Macedonians, this halplogroup (K*) is found in 1.3% of population.
G....Y-DNA haplogroup G...The founder of haplogroup G is thought to have lived about 30,000 years ago.
In Macedonians, this halplogroup is found in 5,1% of population.
In the Aegean part of Macedonia, this halplogroup is found in 1.8% of population (Greek 1,1%).
Haplogroup G is found in approximately 18% to 20% of Kalash.
I....Y-DNA haplogroup I is a European haplogroup.
The two main subgroups of haplogroup I likely divided approximately 28,000 years ago :
The I1b-M227 subclade is concentrated in eastern Europe and the Balkans...
I2a-P37.2, which is the most common form in the Balkans and Sardinia..
The Macedonians have frequencies of I1a of 5,1% and I1b*xM26 29,1%.
http://www.isogg.org/tree/index.html
Notes:
6.MACEDONIANS-SLAV,WHAT THIS MEAN?
1.the oldest Balkan R1a1 population, 11,650±1,550
2.there are no indications regarding “Ukrainian refuge” for R1a1 ancient population allegedly 15,000 years ago; instead, evidences have been obtained that the oldest R1a1 lived circa 11,600± years ago on the Balkans (Serbia, Kosovo, Bosnia, Macedonia).
3.except the Balkans, present-day bearers of R1a1 across Western and Eastern Europe
have common ancestors who lived between 3550 and 4725 years ago (the “youngest” in
Scotland, Ireland and Sweden, the “oldest” in Russia (4725±520 ybp) and Germany
(4,700±520 ybp).
Anatole A. Klyosov
Who is more Greek, the descendants of the Modern Turks of Constantinople or the Modern Greeks of Greece proper?
color crimson:High-Resolution Phylogenetic Analysis of Southeastern Europe Traces Major Episodes of Paternal Gene Flow Among Slavic Populations- Pericic et al. 2005
Y-chromosomal evidence of the cultural diffusion of agriculture in southeast Europe
King et al. (2008) Differential Y-chromosome Anatolian Influences on the Greek and Cretan Neolithic, Annals of Human Genetics 72,205–214
"short" and "normal" comments only.
01.Differential Y-chromosome Anatolian Influences on the Greek and Cretan Neolithic-R. J. King et all 2008
02.Y-chromosomal evidence of the cultural diffusion of agriculture in southeast Europe-Vincenza Battaglia et all 2008
03.High-Resolution Phylogenetic Analysis of Southeastern Europe Traces Major Episodes of Paternal Gene Flow Among Slavic Populations-Marijana Pericic et all 2005
21.16/26, Hassan et al. 2008
continue.....
WIDGETIZE
Anonymous # 15. August 2009, 19:29
Can I find out the total number of Caucasian, Arabian and Sub-Saharan tribes of Greeks and Albanians?
ancientmacedonia # 16. August 2009, 11:21
Sadly ...they (the so-called Greeks and Albanians) dont believe in science and rational thought....