Macedonian Civilization

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The Book of Esther


Esther is usually dated to the third or fourth century BC.
Chapter 3
1 ...King Achashvairosh raised the salary of Haman son of Hamdoso, a descendant of Agag,...
10 The king removed his signet ring from his hand and gave it to Haman son of Hamdoso the Agagite,..

the Septuagint version noticeably calls Haman a Macedonian-makedîn where the Hebrew text describes him as an Agagite-Aege-Aige-Ajga

continue...

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Makedonka Friday, December 4, 2009 6:37:36 PM

Everything what we need to know and rise the questions "why we Macedonians are genocide with a millenniums by now" it's here...in the Book of Esther.

I will post just one quote from there for now, then the rest analyses.

"By the time Esther was written, the foreign power visible on the horizon as a future threat to Judah was the Macedonians of Alexander the Great, who defeated the Persian empire about 150 years after the time of the story of Esther; the Septuagint version noticeably calls Haman a Macedonian where the Hebrew text describes him as an Agagite."
http://christianityinview.com/books/additionstoesther.html

Everywere you look it comes to MACEDONIANS been the treat to Judah (Jewish religion in general)and their enemy, therefore they did everything and still same apply, to distroy MACEDONIA AND MACEDONIANS.

"AGAGITE - a'-gag-it, ('aghaghi, from, 'aghagh, "a member of the house of Agag"): A title of opprobrium given to Haman (Est 3:1,10; 8:3,5; 9:24). Jewish tradition always assigned the arch-enemies of Israel membership in the house of Amalek, the hereditary foe of the nation. Compare Ant, XI, vi, 5. The word Agag has properly been taken by Delitzsch as related to the Assyrian agagu, "to be powerful," "vehement," "angry." In the Greek parts of Esther, Haman is termed a Macedonian (Est 12:6; 16:10). The name Haman is probably of Elamitic origin. Oppert's attempt to connect the term "Agagite" with "Agaz," a Median tribe mentioned by Sargon, has found no supporters.
http://net.bible.org/dictionary.php/dictionary.php?word=Agagite

What "AMALEK" means to them, read here;

Wipe Out Amalek, Today?
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/267677/jewish/Wipe-Out-Amalek-Today.htm


I'll continue...

macedonancientmacedonia Saturday, December 5, 2009 6:17:24 AM

OK, I know the story of that book .....

The name Haman is probably of Elamitic origin .... my a_s ..

According to the Hebrew dictionary of 1997, the name Haman is Persian....come from Persian language....
Targum Sheni", Encyclopaedia Judaica (CD-ROM Edition), 1997, Judaica Multimedia (Israel) Limited.

Avestan haoma and Sanskrit soma.....
The linguistic root of the word haoma, hu-, and of soma, su-, suggests 'press' or 'pound'. (Taillieu, 2002)

you know,when person is pressed....then says (H)Amman.
Haman has "press" the Hebrews.....

Sanskrit:press
Ama3yati=press on, harm
ham_=an exclamation expressive of anger or courtesy or respect

but....
dhAman=dwelling-place , house , abode , domain RV...DOMA
dhAman=law , rule , established order ; power , strength , majesty , glory , splendour , light RV

mahAmanuSya=m. great person, gentleman.
mlecchamaNDala=n. the country of the Mlecchas or bñbarbarian

MLECCHAS
http://my.opera.com/ancientmacedonia/blog/show.dml/4496802

p.s...
1(mwd) AbaddhamaNDala=mfn. forming a circle , sitting in a circle Ka1d.
250=(mwd)=zvetadhAman m. (only L.) `" having white lustre "' , the moon [1107,1] ; camphor ; cuttle-fish bone ; Achyranthes Atropurpurea ; a whñwhite-flowering variety of Clitoria Ternatea.

"250 Haman" in so called IE language.....its hebrew,aramaic...IE? NO

macedonancientmacedonia Saturday, December 5, 2009 6:58:38 AM

agAgra=n. mountain-top.
Capeller's Sanskrit-English Dictionary

Agagite = "I will overtop"

why overtop?
.King Achashvairosh raised the salary of Haman son of Hamdoso
The king removed his signet ring from his hand and gave it to Haman....

dhAman=law , rule , established order ; power , strength , majesty , glory , splendour , light RV

mahAgaGgA=f. `" the great Gan3ga1 "'N. of a river MBh.
khagaGgA=f. the Gan3ga1 (Ganges) of the sky L.

The word Agag has properly been taken by Delitzsch as related to the Assyrian agagu, "to be powerful," "vehement," "angry."
true....

but....
word agag....
(bh)agAG(kura)=m. the clitoris L.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=bhagAGkura&btnG=Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

nagAgra=n. mountain-top

nag=nag(ore;no)

agag=mahAgaGgA=f. `" the great Gan3ga1 "'N. of a river MBh.=aege (EGEJ,VODA)...?

river=Agama (sanskrit)=Aige-Ajga-EGEJ

who knows?

but...
Aramaic-Macedonia=Kittim
Persian-Macedonia=Yauna takabarâ

the Septuagint version noticeably calls Haman a Macedonian-makedîn..
Creation of the Septuagint
Jewish scholars...note: (Aramaic-Macedonia=Kittim) first translated the Torah into Koine ....
Josephus, Flavius, Antiquities of the Jews, 12.2.11-15

but....
He was born Joseph ben Mattathias in Jerusalem in 37 CE, a few years after the time of Jesus,....

Macedonians...2 centuries after Pydna?

He first wrote in his native language of Aramaic, then with assistance translated it into Koine....
then with assistance translated it into Koine....

hmmm....

in his native language of Aramaic...Macedonia=Kittim
then with assistance translated it into Koine....Kittim=Macedonia

http://my.opera.com/ancientmacedonia/blog/2007/12/07/kittim

the Septuagint version noticeably calls Haman a Macedonian-makedîn where the Hebrew (Kittim=Macedonia) text describes him as an Agagite-Aege-Aige-Ajga (Egej=Macedonia)

Agagite="to be powerful," "vehement," "angry."
Kittim=kituum=‘to kill’

Agagite=Kittim
why?
In the first book of Maccabees, Kittim is land of Alexander the Great, a Macedonian by blood. In that book, Macedonia is called the "land of Kittim."

long time before Maccabees....
Moses-Numbers 24:24
Ships will come from the shores of Kittim;
they will subdue Asshur and Eber,
but they too will come to ruin.”

and of course, ships arrived on "right" time....
http://my.opera.com/ancientmacedonia/blog/2009/08/11/sea-people
Moses was great prophet...

Makedonka Saturday, December 5, 2009 1:59:11 PM

My point was Macedon that in whatever names they (Jews, including Greeks as part of their "12 Lost tribes") address to Macedonians as, the bottom line was/is their ENEMY! I'll get to that point later, but firstly let me highlight that we can not or we must not get too much into their trap of many names....since is pointless and very confusing - but that is their trap in aim to confuse, make a chaos and despair, as part of their religion beliefs.

In the book says;

"As a future threat to Judah was the Macedonians of Alexander the Great"

And in Greek version, Macedonians were treated the same, just the name was changed, but they all means same, their ENEMY - as in the above site explains; were says that Agagite is ORIGIN...but called by other names, as missinterpret or in purpos to confuse. Their last naming of their "enemy" is AMALEK...and that applys to all they think are "treat to their Judahisam".

If you had read how the Jews named us Macedonians in ancient times (Agagite) you will understand WHAT THEY MEAN by saying that 'the king od Amalek is AGAG!!!

So further we have another Jewish "prophet" which says;

Kings of the Amalekites
Agag (1 Sam. 15:8)

'From man unto woman, from infant unto suckling, from ox unto sheep, so that the name of Amalek not be mentioned even with reference to an animal by saying "This animal belonged to Amalek".'
http://infao5501.ag5.mpi-sb.mpg.de:8080/topx/archive?link=Wikipedia-Lip6-2/68643.xml&style#5

Do you see now WHY they want to wipe out OUR COMPLETE IDENTITY?

Whatever you see as a different interpretation of "haman" OR "human" is just misinterpret, deliberate or not doesn't matter, rather then their point is (always was) that THEY JEWS ARE "CHOSEN PEOPLE" - therefore "above the rest" and "divine, immortal, demons", while we all (especially us as their biggest treat) are just HUMANS...mortals! Same way the so called "Greeks" from ancient times were preaching around and treat the rest "non-them" by calling them all barbarians.

Strack - The Jew and Human Sacrifice
http://www.scribd.com/doc/3540988/-Strack-The-Jew-and-Human-Sacrifice-

Look why they celebrate 25 December as Jesus Passover...and we do the same on 7th January. If you’ve read somewhere you will know why Romans didn't agree on that time for THIS date to be used as Jesus crucifying.

"Our Christian festivals are generally adaptations of pagan feasts. As the Church found it impossible to suppress the ancient heathen 5 rites, the clergy tried to infuse Christian ideas into them. 13 Easter,which is ecclesiastically observed in commemoration of the resur- rection of Christ, was originally an ancient pagan Spring festival. It is connected with the name of a Germanic goddess of Spring, Anstro, which is identical with the Latin Aurora (for *Ausosa). 14 The seventh 10 Sunday after Easter, Pentecost, which was originally a harvest festival, l:> became in the post-Biblical period a feast commemorating the giving of the Law on Mount Sinai, 16 and in the Christian Church it is observ- ed in remembrance of the descent of the Holy Ghost upon the Apostles during the Feast of Pentecost."

.....3 The blood-rite 19 of the
Passover corresponds to the ceremonies in the German (or rather Austrian Raitknackte (or RauchnacJite]/. e. the Twelve Nights from DEC. 25 to JAN. 6 (cf. below, p. 49, 1. 3*. Houses and stables are 30 fumigated and sprinkled with holy water AT THAT TIME IN ORDER TO WARD OFF EVIL SPIRITS."
http://www.archive.org/stream/purimaddress00haupiala/purimaddress00haupiala_djvu.txt

And what about their Easter (our VELIK_DEN) - don't you think that they celebrate the "glory" of their Jewish women (a plot women to the Persians) about whom the book of Ester is written? Instead of Jesus rising offcourse!

Moram da kazham deka mi se povraka pishuvajki gi ovie raboti...zoshto vistinata e tolku grozna, shto ne se podnesuva od normalni lugje. Ke prodolzham pak.....

Regards coffee

Makedonka Saturday, December 5, 2009 2:53:40 PM

Ke dopolnam sega samo ushte za znacheto na zborot AGA_GITE.

We can not talk about some Hebrew language as been "ancient language" nor about "Greek"...since both are Semetic language - meaning without origin, rather then later on made up languages, to sound and be used as an ""old and ancient".

I've read somewhere that Jews already admitted having NO written language before 3 century BC.....meaning that MACEDONIANS again, been there as Alexander's empire spread through, give them a language too. As well as some "Aramaic language"...are just made up stories.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic

AGA_G means same as AGA...said today that it is from Turkish origin and means "OWNER"..."BOSS" - but if we know that today Turkey in ancient times was Anatolia, and has many things in common with us MACEDONIANS, including establishment of Brygia...Paplagonia...we will know that those words are NOT Turkish, rather then old Anatolian, which in ancient times had been very similar language to our Macedonian language.

We say today AGRAR..for farming..or in other words will be owner of the land..since AR still is word used for land or measure for the land, so we have DEK_AR_I...

smile

Anonymous Monday, December 21, 2009 9:20:14 PM

James&Nathaly writes: MACEDONIA? I do not know what is Macedonia now but I know something and I would like to share with ALL OF YOU who respect THE WORD OF GOD: 1) "For we know,brothers loved by God, that He(God) has chosen you... (You are chosen?) 1 Thessalonians 1:4" [THE (s) SALONIANS] Is this the real name of Salonika? 2) "So that you were ensamples to all that believe in Macedonia and Achaia. For from you sounded out the word of the Lord not only in Macedonia and Achaia, but also in every place your faith to God-ward is spread abroad; so that we need not to speak any thing." 1:7-8 WHAT DOES IT MEAN? 3) "For who is our hope or joy or crown to boast of before our Lord Jesus at his coming? Is it not of course you? For you are our glory and joy!" 2:19-20 ALL THESE VERSES ARE UNIQUE IN THE BIBLE! HOW IT IS POSIBLE? 4) "...pray for us, brothers and sisters,1 that the Lord’s message may spread quickly and be honored3 as in fact it was among you,and that we may be delivered from perverse and evil people. For not all have faith." 2 Thessalonians 3:1-2 O GOD, WHO ARE THE MACEDONIANS? {"INSIGHT ON THE SCRIPTURES" says /"THE MACEDONIANS ARE DESCENDANTS OF JAPHETH, THROUGH KITTIM THE SON OF JAVAN (Genesis 10:2,4,5; Jewish Antiquities I, 128 [VI,1]; Maccabees 1:1) THE MACEDONIANS ARE DESCENDANTS OF KITTIM..." Macedonia was the first area in Europe to be visited by the Apostle Paul, Acts 16:8-9. Publishers: Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of New York,INC. International Bible Students Association, Brooklyn, New York, U.S.A. 1988, VOL.2,Page 228-229"} READ THE APOCRIPHAL BOOKS AND FIND OUT WHAT IS MACEDONIA, MACEDONIANS AND WHY ALL THIS BOOKS ARE NAMED APOCRIPHAL BOOKS? BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN GOD'S SON JESUS, REMEMBER THIS: "For nothing is hidden that will not be revealed, and nothing concealed that will not be made known and brought to light." LUKE 8:17 Do not touch the Name Macedonia and The Macedonians, that Name is Biblical Name... "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding." Proverbs 9:10

Makedonka Tuesday, December 22, 2009 1:16:05 PM

Thank you James&Nathaly, dearly! You truly touch my heart with your will to spread a good word and with it you bring some hope for my people – we are NOT alone, someone still cares about us!

Thank you ones again heart