Wandering by mistake

We're actually getting more users in Poland, as far as I know.

Do you have any stats? I can't confirm it. Moreover, the Polish Opera Community becomes less and less active (less posts, less "veteran" users). Or maybe people do not have problems any more and that's why they post less and less messages to the Polish forum.

The stagnation has started over 2 years ago, so it was long before the new methodology was introduced. And… maybe the aggressive caching could be a reason of an underestimated results, but it surely may not be "responsible" for the flat line (or rather a slow drop-down noticeable recently).

I wonder how many downloads come from opera.onet.pl. This page is so well hold back from the onet.pl users and even Google… I bet that the operapl.net fan site gives you dozens times more downloads.

The official Polish site (translated by me) located at pl.opera.com suffers another problem - the titles of the pages are not translated (it was Opera's decision) which makes lots of Google users omit them, since they see English texts (like "Opera browser: Homepage") in the search results, while they are looking for Polish ones.

BTW, the ranking.pl (Gemius) scripts are plainly everywhere here in Poland, and unfortunately Opera has often strange problems related to these scripts (while trying to connect to the Gemius statistics servers Opera often stalls and stops downloading the actual content of the page). That's why lots of Opera users decide to block Gemius. This, of course, has no influence on the ranking.pl results, since "normal" users do not do it. But these problems have impact on the overall Opera Browser image - Opera seems to be slower than other browsers when downloading the Web pages containing the Gemius scripts (which means almost every important Polish portal and site).

On the other hand, blocking Gemius (http://*gemius.pl/*) causes other, widely discussed at the Polish forum, browsing problems.

Regarding the Gemius script issue,

I think this issue is known for years. It is not specific for Gemius – it’s generally related to the way Opera handles external JavaScript files, not just Gemius (this is one of the mutations, 4 years old). In case of Gemius it’s super-annoying, since these scripts are commonly used in Poland.

The bug is not easy to reproduce, since whether it’s visible or not, depends on many conditions, including the location of the Javascript within the HTML code, the current load of the Gemius stat servers and probably Opera settings. So it’s something like this one, easy to get marked as eternal analyze or WFM.

I hope that by asking your question you don’t try to blame me for this bug. And that you do not want to say, that I should feel guilty just because the bug was not filed personally filed by me, nor was personally mentioned in the English fora by me.

But by mentioning the English fora, you’ve touched another interesting problem. Polish group is the most active group of my.opera.com. The Polish community is one of the biggest Opera communities. Poland is one of your biggest markets. You have dozens of Polish employees. It would be good, for you, for the Polish community and for Polish users, if a single Polish employee watched the Polish forum and (this is important) gave you the feedback. Good for you – you would be able to notice and value some problems specific for a big local market, before launching the final version (as it was with in case of Opera 9.20, which really made lots of bad in Poland). Good for community – people would feel much better if they knew that they were directly listened by Opera. Good for the Polish users – they would get a better product. And finally good for you again, since the chances to get greater market share would be meaningfully increased.

Some Polish community members, who have supplied English fora with the feedback from the Polish forum, seem to get bored with this already.