Truth Is: Pagan Media that Bites

Anonymous writes: AWESOME! BRAVO! THANK YOU FOE WRITING THIS IN DEFENSE OF CLAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sunshine Petal Blossom writes: I truly think you've lost your mind. This guy is an example for people? It seems to me he is a liar and a hypocrite and about the worst example anyone could follow. He WOULD be a good example if he just came out of the closet and admitted it - but no, he is an example of being ashamed of who you are. You think he is walking tall?? He is about as low as it gets. Where is the denial? Where is the lawsuit? Why in the world would anyone not respond to something that has got his fans in such an uproar if it was not true? He will even be a worse role model coming out and lying about it- but then I hope the guy comes after him with his text messages and DNA cloth and he will prove it. A role model??? According to this guy, Clay is preying on guys on the internet, hooking up with them in hotels, having unsafe sex and then not even returning their phone calls!! Then he as the NERVE to go around saying he is example for youth!! That is insane!! Elton John is a role model. Clay Aiken is no role model for anyone to follow. If he had any integrity or self-respect, he would just come clean about it all- then I would respect him. I have heard NOTHING from Clay about these charges and until I do, I will consider it the truth. It's ridiculous for you to bury your head in the sand and pretend in some far-fetched crazy scenario of him taking the high road! He's on the low road, and you're right behind him.

Anonymous writes: Your artice is interesting and somewhat true?But how do you know for sure this did not happen? When you make yourself a public figure as he has there is a certain standard that he himself has said he wishes to be a role model for everyone including kids. By not saying anything it is not doing himself any favors at all. People will come to the conclusion that it is true. He in no way defends himself or leads us to believe otherwise. I am and have been a fan since i heard this man sing i love his voice but he does represent a Christian man he wears what would jesus do bracelet everywhere. Clay is a very smart man but he is just that a "man". But if he has done what they are claiming he has done and then for him to go out there and play on all the claymates and get them all excited looking at his body parts etc and then fake who really is is not fair to his claymates! Nor is it it right to be a hypocrite and be something your really not! I for one wish he would come forward and say who he is. It just is not right and i know and he knows God would not be pleased if indeed he is living this doouble life. I know Clay could not live with himself if he is doing this. He is too honest and caring of a man "The measure of a man" to do this. So we can write all the articles we want and believe whatever we want but we dont know the truth unless we hear it from Clay himself. And i hope and pray the truth will come out so he and all his claymates can know. I want to go on supporting him and believing what he said is true but we dont know for sure. Do we? we all slip up in life and make mistakes Christians or not. Even Jesus said when they tried to stone Mary magdalene caught in adultry He said neither do I condemn you but "Go your way and sin no more" If Clay wants to be role model and be a Chrsitian wearing christian apparel and sayings then he needs to be the person he says he is. and if he chooses to be gay that is his choice and he will have to live with the choices he makes but he needs to be honest about who and what he is portraying to his adoring fans! Many will continue to support him regardless of gender but Clay knows in his heart heck he wrote the book his own biography :Learning to sing: and talked about how important honesty and integrity are! He talked about the fact he was not gay at the time this book was written unfortunatley alot can happen in Hollywoood everyone lableled him as gay and he continued to deny it. but again we are human and we all fall that is why clay is Clay in the potters hands! If he has not done anything then why not say i did not do it. and come clean. If he has an alibi tell it. Doesnt he want people to admire him? And be a role model for children? what about his mother? did not she teach him honesty and integrity while he was growing up? Well enough I just know that truth always has a way of coming out. and my heart says Clay! speak up! be honest you will end up being more of a measure of a man by being honest then by hiding and saying nothing. Unless he is afriad of losing fans so he feels he has to hide behind this false portrayal of who he is it will catch up with him eventually. Clay i love you as your fan i am praying for you and here is a scripture verse for you: Proverbs 12:22. Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord but they that deal truly are His delight! Anonymous loving fan of Clay Aiken!

Anonymous writes: Thank you for your defense of Clay Aiken. The lies made about him are so obviously false - made up by a wanna be porn star. His "story" changes from day to day. Clay is exactly who he has protrayed himself as. He's a good, decent young man who also happens to have a wonderful voice and puts on an incredible show.

Anonymous writes: Thank you for the article, it was very well written and a perfect example of how stupid some people can be in judging others. He said he is not gay, my gay friends say he is not gay, his mother said he is not gay, enough said. Love ya Clay!!!!!!

Anonymous writes: I agree that Clay needs do defend himself, a few years ago some male stripper said he had sex with Tom Cruise and Tom's lawyers went after him and the story went away. Clay don't you have a lawyer? Go after this scumb bag porno peace a sh...

Anonymous writes: Arne Enjoyed reading your well written article. I have been an admirer of Clays since day one. My comment is this: This has been handed to Clay for a reason. When he figures out what that is I know all of our questions will be answered. So often something good in our lives is revealed from a bad experience.

Anonymous writes: Thanks, Arne for your wonderful article on Clay... I know that he is just who he says he is... His loving fans will back him up no matter what is thrown at him...And in return he should make a statement to his fans to help them begin to heal from this, and he must know that as he is hurt by this, so are they hurting right along with him...

Arne writes: Sunshine Petal, It is clear that you will listen to what you want to listen to. First that statement by Paullis was retracked, or didn't you catch the Howard Stern show? The reason Paullis had to backtrack, is because like any lie, its never perfect! You see Paullis is so stupid, that he didn't check Clay's event calander. If he had, he would of known, that Clay was at an event miles away from were Paullis said he met with Clay. I think with a Charity event and tons of people knowing full well that on the date that Paullis stated it happened, Clay was at the event! Yes he is a good example of a fine person. You may want to think about why the big news media like CNN, ect... has not picked up the story! They haven't because of the above they know its a lie. The same tabloid dropped the story like a hot tamale, because they to did not do their homework with Paullis story! Sad isn't it! Arne

Arne writes: I have answered that, Clay was at a charity event on the same date/night Paullis gave! That's why Paullis back off, sheesh, I guess there goes the move deals, bood deals, hell only Howard Stern had him on as a guest. No Larry King for Paullis. That's how I know! Arne (quote) Anonymous writes: Your artice is interesting and somewhat true?But how do you know for sure this did not happen?

Arne writes: Your welcome, to all of those that have said thank-you. Arne

Anonymous writes: Sunshine Petal Blossom: You want to know "Where is the denial? Where is the lawsuit? Why in the world would anyone not respond" Here's why: You and people like you aren't worth his time and trouble. The last time I checked, this was America and you had to prove guilt not defend your innocence. And don't even go down the path that JP took a lie detector test. So did Scott Peterson and he's on death row. THANK YOU ARNE FOR STANDING UP FOR CLAY.

Anonymous writes: You people are blind. There are nine former fans in a lawsuit claiming he deceived them because of this guy and you say it's not worth his time to deny it????? How gullible can you be?? If Clay refusing to deny it is not evidence that this guy is telling the truth, then you are so brainwashed, you'll believe ANYTHING to make youself believe what you want to.

Anonymous writes: The issue is NOT about him being gay. It's about his actions while maintaining a ruse of being chaste and displaying a holier than thou arrogance. Through numerous reports (and his own words) he's proved to be an ill-tempered, judgmental, sanctimonious jerk. If this story is also true, it's only another example that goes against him being accurately described as "a spiritual person" who's "conduct and behaviour has been exemplary". Aiken set himself up for such intense scrutiny by actively creating an image he can't live up to. Otherwise, no one would give a hoot about this latest story. Frankly, you do him no favors by putting him on a pedestal and insisting he stay there.

Skeptic writes: Why should anyone believe gossip that is unsubstantiated? Why should your attitude about someone change just because someone with their own agenda accuses them of something? Why should someone who is a public figure have to dignify trash tabloid "stories" with a public reply, anyway? Silence in a case like this does not in any way imply guilt. (Whaddya want, anyway? That celebrities should have to put out a press release to deny every gossip rag story that's printed about them? Gimme a break!) Until there's real evidence that a story is true, I say a celebrity should ignore it. That way, if and when they do decide to sue for libel, they haven't shown all their cards in advance of the trial.

Anonymous writes: As Dr. Phil said, once you start defending a rumor, you will have to spend all your time defending every rumor that is said about you. I don't blame Clay Aiken for saying not a word. Anything that he says will be twisted to suit the agenda of the haters. As to Tom Cruise, his filing a lawsuit was not the end of the gay rumors. They are still being said about him even as he is about to become a Father. Clay Aiken has self-described himself as being straight. Who are you to call him a liar? I think there are some people who desperately want him to be gay. After all, he is attractive, smart, witty and has a purpose in life. Let's see...who would I believe? Someone who spends his personal time doing charity work and going to dangerous parts of the world on behalf of UNICEF, and being a kind, caring person or some wannabe porn star? That is a no-brainer. Clay Aiken gets my vote. The haters like to classify the Clay fans as over-zealous and obsessed. I say they are no more obsessed than the bashers and haters who spend time patrolling the Aiken fan sites, going to his concerts just to pick apart everything he does, even going so far as to join his Fan Club so as to know everything that is going on, and reading his blogs all with the intent of ruining his image and his career. Now tell me, who is the more obsessed? At least the fans are motivated by love and not hate. I dare say if this lanky young man can overpower this ex-Green Beret, then I think our country is in deep trouble if this is the best the Green Berets have to offer. He is a sorry excuse for a Green Beret. We live in such a cynical world that some people just can't accept that a person wants to be a positive role model for young people. So, the guy may lose his temper from time to time, maybe he's not always in a good mood or can be very stubborn at times. Well, golly gee. Throw him in jail for being so mean. I would venture to say that his good far outweighs his bad. It is just so hard for some people to believe that he is genuinely a nice, caring person because they have such dark, evil hearts and Clay Aiken serves to remind them of everything they are not. Great article Arne!

Anonymous writes: The idea of fans suing over Aiken's sexuality and image is one of the most outrageous things I have ever heard. I guess people will then be suing Britney Spears cause she professed to be a virgin and they will be suing Jessica and Nick because they presented themselves as happy Newlyweds and guess what? They're getting divorced now. And they say the Clay fans are delusional. Arne - your article was very interesting and you made some valid points.

Anonymous writes: your article is very interesting. Clay aiken doe not need to defend himself against a over the hill porn star wannabe who is seeking his 15 minutes of fame by dragging a celebrity name over the mudd. who are you going to believe? a man who try to make a better world or a fame whore who sole intent is to make a name into the pron world by splasing naked pictures of himself everywere. Every smart person knows garbages when they see it. the guy cannot even keep his story straight, the more he spaeks the more he hangs himself. Clay fans are not stupid, they can see trough the lies. what is sad in pour society is that tabloid are allowed to spew unfounded rumors just for sensationalism.

Anonymous writes: Aiken has always stood tall and dignified in the music world where bad behaviors are acceptable. Tabloids are happy to run with stories which are false on the world of a seedy character who is seeking fame by any way he can. why would anybody believe his tales? he is parading around with a producer of a porn film maker giving interviews to whoever would grant it, changing his stories everytimes. our society is so scandal happy that they run with non stories.Why dont they investigated this so called marine and the patterns. celebrities are very easy target for a fame seeker. aiken is just a normal, goofy, smart kid that wanted to make a difference. these 3 years in the public eye have proven that he has kept his words.

Anonymous writes: "arrogant, ill tempered judmental" "jerk" , I'm sick of hearing all this accusations about clay. This whole things semms like a set up to me. Maybe someone who knows Clay or had worked for him trying to get back on him by making up lies when they know that his CD is comming up soon, If clay is so arrogant, smart, doesn't make any sense that he is going on the internet looking for sex, that's is something that a stupid person would do,more they talk about him dere6ecpmore famous he becames, that's how a see

Anonymous writes: Arne, thank you for this article. It addresses so many issues and so well, but still..people can't just get past it. I guess these are the same people who have a problem with 'gay' issues and probably a lot of other issues as well. Their opinion is so important (not), but no one else's is. These are the people who can't wait for everyone else to finish talking so they can tell their story...they hear nothing. The ones that people dread having a conversation with. We all know them. They just don't know that what they have to say means nothing. We just nod and pretend we're listening. LOL Can everyone just believe what they want and move on? Let's see who's life can we destroy and tear apart today? How about no one's! Being straight or gay is 'one' of so many features about a person. Why can't people see that? I wonder if they will someday?

Anonymous writes: I think that by now, Clay knows how to handle bullies. This is just another chapter in his life (sadly). He's good at seeing the good in people and ignoring the crap others have to dish out. I'm proud to be a fan of Clay Aiken.

Anonymous writes: Arne, thanks for a well-written, believable article. I have one thing to say "Innocent until proven guilty". That is democracy in action! That is the American Way! If you don't like it, move to Russia, China, Africa, or any other place you had rather live and leave the rest of us alone! I would be glad to pay for your one-way ticket. So, Goodby, what's holding you? Are youy gone yet?

Diana writes: Bravo! Thank you for trying to show people the truth, and for standing up for Clay.

Lola writes: Clay, keep walking tall. Hurry up and get that new CD out. I can hardly wait to get my hands on it. My husabnd and I are LOYAL FANS.

Anonymous writes: All the above letters are very interesting. For me the answer lies in the whole truth whatever it is. In the beginning of Clay's career I don't think even Clay knew about his own sexuality. At some point he became sexually active. It must have taken great hold of him as it does with most men. I think he was very shy around women and it is just possible that some gay male got to him first. He was very close according to an article I read with his hair dresser. The thing that got to me was (if he did meet this guy) he was so cold and demanding. He had no regard for him and strickly wanted to have sex. It was almost a desparate need. There are two others he got in contact with on-line and one met him in his dressing room. Clay was definitely the agressor according to that guy. The fact that he showed no real affection at all for them tells me that they were just a means to an end. That is very good news in a way because I still think he will get married sometime and have a family. Many men at a young age have sex with another male. Its just no big deal.

Anonymous writes: Thanks for speaking out. It is ridiculous that people are bent out of shape over Clay's sexuality. How dare anyone have a say in someone else's sexuality. What he does in his private life is private. Be real, so-called fans. Did you ever think that there was a chance that you would end up in a relationship with Clay anyhow. We love him because he is a great singer and entertainer. And furthermore, no one has a right to ask who he perfers to have a relationship with. His sexual preference doesn't change what kind of person he is and what kind of performer he is. I, for one, love watching him perform and listening to him, and I hope that this doesn't hurt his chances for another album. I know we have all been waiting for that. So get over yourselves and remember why you loved him in the first place!

Judy writes: Thank you for a wonderful article on Clay. I share your sentiment. Clay is a gifted, sensitive young man with his whole life ahead of him. He has given much and been an inspiration to so many in such a very short time. Few have accomplished what he has. I feel sad to think that because he does not fit the what few feel is "norm" that he has to go through something like this. Shame on Clay fans who feel they have to believe the smut these papers and thrill seekers put out there. Sensationalism is the name of the game these days. Clay is still the same man he was on AI2 and had everyone from "Take time....." As I have read on one of the sites about Clay; it is stated as saying and I quote: "We came for the voice, we stay for the man." Stand tall, Clay. Your fans are still with you.

too many writes: Too many exclamation points.

JamieNJersey writes: You had me thinking this was an awesome article til you got to the paragraph that started with, "Finally, why is there such an importance attached to whether a person is gay or not? I do not get what the difficulty is in that thought process. I think as long as it is two CONSENTING ADULTS, in any relationship there should be no issues on gender." It very much matters to God. One can't choose to believe just parts of the Bible. One has to believe it all or nothing. It is against God's laws that same gender have sex or relationships. It has nothing to do with being phobic or hating gays. My cousin is gay and I love her. BUT, I hate the sin. You can't talk about God in one paragraph and then say being gay is ok in another. That doesn't work with God. I pray for Clay and not for one minute believe the rumors about him because he says he is a child of God, period.

Arne writes: Um in case you missed it, this forum says Truth is PAGAN media that bites. I urge to read my posts on fundmentalists............. How do you know it matters to your God? You know xian's have tradionally kept some important parts out of their bible. For example judge not and be not judged!!!! is one that people don't seem to quote or they miss!! or how about the one that God will come to man by any way and any means! I am not going to get to much into a xian debate,but it is not an xian form. However, I think when anyone uses A God as a sheild for them to discriminate agaisnt others, demonstrate racism against others then that is that persons own failure in what spirt is about. Aboriginals have it right, they just say the great spirit. Your type of thinking is why we have such a problem into today's world. no acceptance of other's right to define the great spirit in thier own way!!! Further the word God!!!!! is a universal word and was meant to extend to all nations, how those nations or each as an individuel perceive and define that God is up to them. My argument wasn't about xianity, it was about each person's human right to choose. That was a birthright even in xian view!!! I think you missed it! oh by the way Pagans, only become pagans once they have viewed and have been taught the xian concept.

Anonymous writes: Clay is every bit of a man because he is not paying any mind to this type of lunacy. He is doing just what I expected of him, turning the other cheek. He has better things to do than go back and forth with a liar who is just out there trying to get publicity. By talking about it and mentioning their name, it is just giving publicity period who someone that doesn't deserve it. Any publicity, negative or positive is publicity for someone like that. Clay is the best thing to have happened to music in a long time. I can't wait for his new cd to come out so I can play it over and over again and share it with others. Some entertainers and actors out there today should take a lesson from Clay and the way he lives his life. Those people looking to get a lawsuit out of this weren't real Clay fans in the first place and are out there to get personal gain. Shame on you!

Mary from Florida writes: Thank you for your defense of Clay. Just because he is not the norm of cursing when he sings, non-sexual overtones in his music, believes in his faith and strong family ties, well you can see where our society has gone. Literally to the dogs. Better yet dogs are adorable and lovable so I don't want to say that either. Where are the comments when you have Flavor/Flavor out there (is he really human?) and snoop dog, etc, etc. Are these role models? Absouletly not. I would hate to see Clay get so upset with all that is going on about him to through in the towel. I love his voice so much. That is what got me to vote from day one for him. I did not look at his appearance, I was swept away by the voice. Please let this young man be and do what he does best or since I don't know him well one of the things he is acceptional at. I wish him all the best and my you doubtors fall off the face of the earch.

Anonymous writes: I'm quite tired of people getting it wrong. There is no lawsuit. A lawsuit is a court action. The FTC is a federal agency and anyone can file a complaint. Go to their website and you can even do it online. It is in no way a formal action, not unless the FTC agrees to merits and even then, it still would not be a lawsuit because it's not before the judicial system. The FTC is part of the Executive Branch. There is no way that such a complaint will pass a merits test. I can pretty much guarantee it. Hundreds of people fill out that online form every day and 99.9% of them are nuisance actions. People get their kicks all kinds of ways and fooling around with internet forms is one of them. The FTC laughs and nothing is ever done. Well, except someone hits the delete button. The end. As for Mr. Aiken responding to the non-mainstream media, as in mostly blog sites and tabloids, that would not be smart. Half of these places say right directly on the site that they make no claim to have accurate information and they exist for entertainment purposes only. Not much different than gaming sites. Yes, there is a segment of the population that believes these internet sites and the tabloids but quite frankly, who cares? Just as I pay no attention to various bigotries, I don't pay attention to gossip junkies. Both groups act in ignorance. Why waste my time? More to the point: why should Mr. Aiken waste his?

Anonymous writes: ARNE APPARENTLY PAULIS AND LUCAS ARE SO DESPERATE FOR ANY KIND OF PUBLICITY THAT THEY WILL GO TO ANY LENGTHS TO ACHIEVE ANY KIND THEY CAN GET. EVEN TO LYING ABOUT SOMEONE AS GOOD AND DECENT AND WONDERFUL AS CLAY. I SUPPOSE IT DOSEN'T HURT THAT CLAY IS SO DARN GOODLOOKING AND SEXY. THEY ARE JEALOUS BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T DARE LOOK IN A MIRROR. THANK YOU ARNE FOR YOUR BELEIF IN CLAY AND FOR HAVING THE GUTS TO SAY SO.

Bridge writes: I have the feeling that these women that are complaining to the FTC would probably sue their own grandmothers because they didn't get a birthday or Christmas gift - or were left out of the will! It's ashame that society as we know it today cannot be held responsible for ANYTHING that they may have done wrong. However, I sincerely doubt this complaint has anything to do with "misrepresentation", but more bout $$$$$. Please - I'm sure there's alot that THEY'VE misrepresented about themselves. As far as that dirt-bag that claimed to have had sex with Clay - I think your 15 minutes of fame are up.

Anonymous writes: I am with you. I will boycott local radio stations, newspapers, any and all media that continue to spread these filty lies. ANd thanks for your words of support for Clay.

Anonymous writes: Thank you Arne/

Anonymous writes: I'm sorry...but I'm having a hard time understanding the intelligence of these people who believe what they read in the Natl Inquirer. For real. Are you ok?

den-den in pa. writes: Who is without sin ,cast the first stone ! Only Clay and His Creator know the truth. We are all responsible for our own actions and answerable only to God for what is private. The pressure this guy Clay endures with his fame and success is overwhelming ! He remains a geat example to all of us. Clay has charm and a presence that is a special gift to us all . God has given him a mission beyond any of our weak comprehensions. At any given moment Clay is capable of bringing joy to thousands with one performance. I'm a guy , secure in my feelings , old enough to be Clays father and love him with the true sense of the word. He deserves the best and is entitled to the best. NO ONE HAS ThE RIGHT TO RUIN ANOTHERS REPUTATION ! WE ARE ALL ENTITLED TO A GOOD REPUTATION ! Hang in there Clay , be assurred that there are hose who know you are sinceree and care so much about you!

janscott writes: I put this link in Arne's other thread about Clay. I wish the whole world could see this but I think my Photobucket account might crash! LOL Clay is a beautiful human being. I have never put him on a pedestal, nor shall I. He has faults - just like the rest of us. BUT - I cannot fathom why people are doing this to him...but can only assume it is jealousy because of what he has achieved in such a short time. There are homophobic macho types out there who just love to bait. Well - my answer to them keeping on about it...makes me think of that old saying....... "methinks thou dost protest too much"! They don't like that when I tell them....(hey some of them need it explained hahaha - go figure!) Anyway - here is the link......please spread the word and pass it on to all you know...may be it will do some good. Thanks http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b205/OMC_Jan/ODDS/chopped-2.jpg JS