Mass NMUing challenge
Wednesday, 8. July 2009, 07:38:18
Since lenny was released the number of RC bugs keeps going up and up. As of this time of writing it is around 1138 which are way too many.
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So, why not start a Mass NMUing challenge? what about getting the number of RC bugs below 1000 before Debcamp starts (that is, in a week)?.
My NMUs count on my DDPO page keeps increasing, hopefully faster than the number of RC bugs, what about yours?
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For those who prefer graphics:
Current:
So, why not start a Mass NMUing challenge? what about getting the number of RC bugs below 1000 before Debcamp starts (that is, in a week)?.
My NMUs count on my DDPO page keeps increasing, hopefully faster than the number of RC bugs, what about yours?
EDIT: added static image
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Anonymous # 8. July 2009, 08:05
It's hopeless. Been there, done that. Don't wear yourself out trying to clean up after dummy maintainers. Sure you might be able to fix 5-7 in a week and the 10 poor sobs you recruit another 50-70. But then? You will have put in lots of work. 900 DDs will have been sulking while 100 people work on Debian.
RC bugs is not the illness, it's a symptom. Low quality maintenance is the illness.
Anonymous # 8. July 2009, 08:14
I hope the RC count is for Squeeze and not Lenny. Otherwise we have a hell of a buggy stable release...
Anonymous # 8. July 2009, 10:56
All of stable, testing and unstable are vastly RC buggy. The issue is lazy and MIA maintainers. The fact that we need NMUs at all is indicative of a huge huge problem in Debian. The only conclusion I can come to is that people don't care about Debian any more, even the developers and especially the developers of derivative distros.
atomo64 # 8. July 2009, 18:15
I wouldn't put all the blame on the maintainers, many RC bugs are from ongoing transitions, major changes either in the build tool chain, new upstream code, etc.
Debian is still the distribution with support for more architectures than any other, with well over 23k packages, with support for multiple kernels, and is a living distribution. If everything was static, changeless then having RC bugs would be a great indiciator of something terrible happening.
I believe that Debian has survived so many years not just by mere chance, but because there's always been people who don't lose faith on the project. So c'mon Thomas, the goal is to have fun, to enjoy it, not to get mad because of other people
Its squeeze's. I told aba about that the other day, but looks like he forgot to update it.
I wouldn't say that. Since Debian is made and built by volunteers there's no way you can force anyone to do something, or to dedicate time to something whenever you want them to.
Anonymous # 8. July 2009, 22:02
OMG !! you're so geek :P
just to say hi, congrats for the DD thing too !! keep it like that
Anonymous # 9. July 2009, 16:59
So what is the current NMU policy?
atomo64 # 9. July 2009, 22:46
"NMU policy"? does that even exist?
IIRC the RT never lifted the 0-day NMU policy
Anonymous # 11. July 2009, 22:18
@atomo64: regarding NMU policy, there are guidelines in dev-ref.
I added a quick and dirty CGI to UDD to generate stats about NMUers.
See http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/nmu_stats.cgi
atomo64 # 15. July 2009, 20:08
I know, I was joking.
Thanks for the stats