Behrang Saeedzadeh

ASF's Open Letter to Sun Microsystems

Tuesday, April 10, 2007 1:43:02 PM

What is going to be the next open letter? Asking Sun to give all their intellectual property to IBM for free?

I for one am against Harmony. Before OpenJDK it wasn't nonesense. Now, I am against it. Period.

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Comments

Anonymous # Tuesday, April 10, 2007 4:21:18 PM

Neil Bartlett writes: Are you also against the idea of enforcing contracts? In this case, Sun have signed contracts that oblige them to give the JCK to Apache. They should be forced to uphold those contracts, and it doesn't matter a damn whether you're against Harmony or not. Period.

Anonymous # Tuesday, April 10, 2007 4:35:13 PM

Anonymous writes: Whose IP? IBM (and Apache) have contributed a shitload of IP via the JCP under the impression that they were contributing to open standards. (I have no relation to IBM, BTW.) Harmony wants to implement the API, not use Sun's implementation. The GPL isn't for everybody. I applaud and encourage Harmony.

Behrang Saeedzadehbehrangsa # Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:46:52 AM

@Neil Bartlett
LOL! If they have signed contracts, yup, they have to uphold them. But another problem is that OpenJDK is now GPL'ed and I think ASF license is not compatible with GPL... but yet again Harmony is not a fork of OpenJDK, so maybe... But it still remains a solid fact that I am against Harmony. Peiod! ;-)

@Anonymous
Indeed, they have been contributing to open standards, but "open standards" does have a very different meaning than being allowed to reproduce JDK under an ASF license.

Anonymous # Wednesday, April 11, 2007 3:09:22 PM

Anonymous writes: Sun has a definition of "Open Standards" itself here: http://www.sun.com/software/standards/definition.xml Especially the last sentence: "The licensing terms of an open standards must not preclude implementations of that standard under open source licensing terms or restricted licensing terms."

Anonymous # Wednesday, April 11, 2007 10:27:40 PM

fuxk writes: when will ibm open source its damn AIX and DB2.. poor sun.